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Mike12188
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Postby Mike12188 » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:53 pm

Spagett wrote:Come now Mike, doing well on the SAT has nothing to do with giving a shit in high school.
For instance, I got about 9 Ds (but always did just enough work to pass) and managed a 1560 after 2 SAT practice tests.
Pred 176
Actual 177
That being said, I didn't give a shit in college either...


Minimal prep is still giving a shit lol. Waking up hung over and just making it there on time not knowing what to expect = not giving a shit.

P.S. I swear I'm not the 30 year old that still wears his letter jacket to the local bar.

But in all seriousness, your right a test like that does not prove who actually cared enough to try. In my HS it did though. Every Thursday night I had to hang out with my friends in the grade below or above me because I was the only one not in a prep class.

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Postby pcwcecac » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:54 pm

This predictor gives a margin of error of 5. That gives a band of 10 points. the actual score range of the LSAT is 120-180, i.e 60 point difference between the min and max scores.

So the point is, it's really not all that precise. That said, it does sure illustrate an existence of correlation between LSAT and SAT scores, and that's expected.

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Postby westinghouse60 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:16 pm

1300 SAT, so it gives me a 163 LSAT, which is actually roughly what I got on my first few prep tests. So my SAT (which I didn't study for) is roughly converted to my LSAT when I first started studying for it.

I'd say that's fairly accurate, or is for me at least. I did marginally better on the reading section of the SAT to end up getting the 1300, someone else who did better on the math and got the same overall score probably wouldn't get the same LSAT score.

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Postby freestallion » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:23 pm

Wow. That was almost 100% accurate for me. 1500 on LSAT ----> 173 on LSAT. Predicted 172.4.

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Postby howlery » Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:15 pm

I thought these two tests not being related was conventional TLS wisdom? I'm all freaked out now since I never really studied for the SAT.

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Postby JoeFish » Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:38 pm

howlery wrote:I thought these two tests not being related was conventional TLS wisdom? I'm all freaked out now since I never really studied for the SAT.

Umm................. You should probably review causation before you take the LSAT...
No, that was nasty. Come now, think about it; how in the world could studying for the SAT possibly have anything to do with how you do on the LSAT? Your assignment is to figure out how it could be that the two tests seem to be correlated, and yet how much you studied for the SAT has nothing to do with how well you do on the LSATs. My assignment is to figure out whether you're trolling.

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Postby Moomoo2u » Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:39 am

predicted a 162 for me and I got a 170.

Then again I took the new 2400 Sat's

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Postby descartesb4thehorse » Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:02 am

Mine was 11 points off. Studying helps, bros and bosephinas.

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Postby bk641 » Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:06 am

ugh i should have gotten a 177.

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Postby cynthia rose » Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:12 pm

If you took the new LSAT just leave off the writing score and take the combined critical reading and math scores to use this formula, that's what the old SATs were before.

Predicted - 163 (no prep)
Actual - 160 (virtually no prep)

The fairly high degree of accuracy makes sense because a lot of people probably didn't prep for either test the first time they took them (TLS posters are still a rare bunch, most other people think these things are an aptitude test when it's just a measure of raw ability). Of course, dedicated studying makes this moot. Still a fun observation, though.

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Postby ahduth » Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:10 pm

I got a 167.66666666666666666666. I think the ACT predictor was more accurate for me.

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Postby Jack Smirks » Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:15 pm

The ACT formula was spot on for my diagnostic.

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Postby fathergoose » Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:26 pm

I have a very hard time believing that someone who scored a 1050 on the SAT would be above median on the LSAT

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Postby howlery » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:42 pm

JoeFish wrote:
howlery wrote:I thought these two tests not being related was conventional TLS wisdom? I'm all freaked out now since I never really studied for the SAT.

Umm................. You should probably review causation before you take the LSAT...
No, that was nasty. Come now, think about it; how in the world could studying for the SAT possibly have anything to do with how you do on the LSAT? Your assignment is to figure out how it could be that the two tests seem to be correlated, and yet how much you studied for the SAT has nothing to do with how well you do on the LSATs. My assignment is to figure out whether you're trolling.


To review would imply that I've already gone over that material, which I haven't (in UG). What you're saying makes perfect sense, and I agree with you, but seeing so many people's scores predicted somewhat accurately caused some admittedly silly doubt.

I'm not a troll, just clueless. Heads up :|

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Postby FantasticMrFox » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:51 pm

cynthia rose wrote:If you took the new LSAT just leave off the writing score and take the combined critical reading and math scores to use this formula, that's what the old SATs were before.

Predicted - 163 (no prep)
Actual - 160 (virtually no prep)

LSAT :)




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