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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby bdogbb » Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:31 am

New vet checkin in, USMC OEF. I'm looking at William & Mary, UVA, Notre Dame and Vanderbilt right now, anyone know if they have a soft spot for vets during the admissions process?

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby tjsmms061906 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:28 pm

bdogbb wrote:New vet checkin in, USMC OEF. I'm looking at William & Mary, UVA, Notre Dame and Vanderbilt right now, anyone know if they have a soft spot for vets during the admissions process?


I am in at Notre Dame and my acceptance letter alluded to my service.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby bdogbb » Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:29 pm

tjsmms061906 wrote:
bdogbb wrote:New vet checkin in, USMC OEF. I'm looking at William & Mary, UVA, Notre Dame and Vanderbilt right now, anyone know if they have a soft spot for vets during the admissions process?


I am in at Notre Dame and my acceptance letter alluded to my service.


Hmm, my numbers are pretty mediocre though, 3.23 and 165, how does that compare to your situation if you don't mind me asking?

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby UVAIce » Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:24 pm

bdogbb wrote:
tjsmms061906 wrote:
bdogbb wrote:New vet checkin in, USMC OEF. I'm looking at William & Mary, UVA, Notre Dame and Vanderbilt right now, anyone know if they have a soft spot for vets during the admissions process?


I am in at Notre Dame and my acceptance letter alluded to my service.


Hmm, my numbers are pretty mediocre though, 3.23 and 165, how does that compare to your situation if you don't mind me asking?


UVA has a soft spot for veterans, but it tends to be on the splitter side with a higher LSAT than yours. Think of a candidate with the same, or much lower, GPA with a LSAT score of 170+.

If you retake, get a 170, you would be an easy in at UVA with ED. With the bonus that the school is completely free with the Post 9/11 GI Bill (all veterans get in-state tuition in Virginia. This would also be the case at William & Mary, but the we have a lot better job prospects than they do.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby bdogbb » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:44 am

Yeah.. with my numbers UVA is reaching so far I'll probably hyper-extend my shoulder by submitting that app, but I figure if there's ever gonna be a miracle like that it would be this cycle. If I don't get any offers I like I'm going to sit for the June test, I studied hard for four months for that 165 though, so I'm not to exuberant to get back to doing that.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby alexrodriguez » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:07 am

figured this might be useful to most of us

http://newgibill.org/calculator/

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby ScottRiqui » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:14 am

louierodriguez wrote:figured this might be useful to most of us

http://newgibill.org/calculator/


I think that's outdated - it appears to be using the BAH rates from 2011.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby alexrodriguez » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:23 am

I have a question that hopefully one of you will be able to answer.

I've served two years on active duty and I'm now going into the selected reserves.

I know for sure that I get 80% of the GI bill.

But my new contract is for 2 years on active duty (which I've done) and three years in the selected reserves.

You are 100% eligible for the GI BIll with this 2 by 4 Program. 2 years of active duty and 4 years of the selected reserves.

So If I just sign up for another year will I be 100% eligible for the GI Bill?

Assuming that I am... Lets consider the Yellow Ribbon Program. As you all know you need to be 100% eligible for this program.

Will I be able to use the Yellow Ribbon incentives while serving in the selected reserves?

I've read that you are not entitled to the yellow ribbon if still serving on active duty, but I've seen nothing about the yellow ribbon as a selected reservist.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby ScottRiqui » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:35 am

I'm pretty sure that Post-9/11 GI Bill eligibility is only dependent on the time spent on active duty (either in the regular component or while called up to active duty while on SELRES). So you would need to accrue one more year of active duty in order to be 100% eligible. Once you've gotten your three years, though, you can use the benefits while still on SELRES.

I haven't heard of a "2 X 4" program getting you 100% eligibility, but that may be new, or service-specific. Would you mind sharing which branch you're with?

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby tjsmms061906 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:18 pm

louierodriguez wrote:I have a question that hopefully one of you will be able to answer.

I've served two years on active duty and I'm now going into the selected reserves.

I know for sure that I get 80% of the GI bill.

But my new contract is for 2 years on active duty (which I've done) and three years in the selected reserves.

You are 100% eligible for the GI BIll with this 2 by 4 Program. 2 years of active duty and 4 years of the selected reserves.

So If I just sign up for another year will I be 100% eligible for the GI Bill?

Assuming that I am... Lets consider the Yellow Ribbon Program. As you all know you need to be 100% eligible for this program.

Will I be able to use the Yellow Ribbon incentives while serving in the selected reserves?

I've read that you are not entitled to the yellow ribbon if still serving on active duty, but I've seen nothing about the yellow ribbon as a selected reservist.


Just file for your certificate of eligibility now to find out. I couldn't get a straight answer from any VA rep so I filed and got my answer.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby ScottRiqui » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:24 pm

When you were retiring, separating, applying to use the GI Bill, or when you transferred some/all of your GI Bill eligibility to a family member, did you ever receive anything from your service via Registered Mail? I missed a RM letter from the Department of the Navy on Friday, and won't be able to pick it up until late tomorrow, so the curiosity is killing me.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby J-e-L-L-o » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:09 pm

The only thing I can think of is your service record on CD

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby chneyo » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:44 am

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby alexrodriguez » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:54 am

ScottRiqui wrote:I'm pretty sure that Post-9/11 GI Bill eligibility is only dependent on the time spent on active duty (either in the regular component or while called up to active duty while on SELRES). So you would need to accrue one more year of active duty in order to be 100% eligible. Once you've gotten your three years, though, you can use the benefits while still on SELRES.

I haven't heard of a "2 X 4" program getting you 100% eligibility, but that may be new, or service-specific. Would you mind sharing which branch you're with?


I'm in the Navy.

Pretty sure the 2 X 4 program is for any branch.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby alexrodriguez » Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:12 am

I'm trying to file for my benefits right now.

Do I want the Post 9/11

or do I want the Montgomery GI bill?

I've never really understood the difference.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby bdogbb » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:36 am

louierodriguez wrote:I'm trying to file for my benefits right now.

Do I want the Post 9/11

or do I want the Montgomery GI bill?

I've never really understood the difference.


Post 9/11 for sure, it operates on percent of tuition instead of hard numbers.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby ScottRiqui » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:38 am

louierodriguez wrote:
ScottRiqui wrote:I'm pretty sure that Post-9/11 GI Bill eligibility is only dependent on the time spent on active duty (either in the regular component or while called up to active duty while on SELRES). So you would need to accrue one more year of active duty in order to be 100% eligible. Once you've gotten your three years, though, you can use the benefits while still on SELRES.

I haven't heard of a "2 X 4" program getting you 100% eligibility, but that may be new, or service-specific. Would you mind sharing which branch you're with?


I'm in the Navy.

Pretty sure the 2 X 4 program is for any branch.


Okay, I think I got it figured out. The "2 x 4" program is another name for the Montgomery GI Bill Active Duty (MGIB-AD) program, and is a way to use the Montgomery GI Bill after only two years of active duty.

The Yellow Ribbon Program is a provision of the Post-9/11 GI Bill, though, and can't be used with the Montgomery GI Bill.

I still haven't found any way to be 100% Post-9/11 GI Bill eligible without either serving three years on active duty, or receiving a service-connected disability discharge after at least 30 days. I'm ignoring dependent benefits, since they're not relevant here.

You'd have to sit down and crunch some numbers, taking into account tuition/fees, school location, and expected scholarships, but I'd be willing to bet that even at only 80% and with no Yellow Ribbon Program, the Post-9/11 GI Bill is still a better deal than the Montgomery GI Bill. The MGIB rate is $1650/month, and that's all you get - no housing allowance, no book allowance, etc. That's about $15k per academic year.

With the Post-9/11 GI Bill, you get 100% tuition/fees at a public school, up to $19,200/year at a private school, $1000/year for books, and a monthly housing allowance that can be up to $3700/month if you go to school somewhere with a high cost of living, such as Columbia. Of course, you'd multiply the above benefits by 80%, but still a pretty good deal.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby Brlong » Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:21 pm

Greetings everyone! First post on here so I'll introduce myself. I was in the Marine Corps (02-07) with 4 Iraq deployments and then began contracting, going back to Iraq twice more. I recently left my job to focus on finishing up my bachelor's in Political Science. I'm attending Penn State via their world campus and I'm scheduled to graduate Spring '15. I currently have a 3.8 GPA and I'm scheduled to take the June LSAT. Obviously, my score will dictate my options regarding applications this fall but I'm confident that my work history (both military and civilian) along with rec's and a 170ish LSAT should secure a number of T14 schools. My top choices are Harvard, Yale, NYU, Virginia and Georgetown so hopefully my cycle will go smoothly. I look forward to future discussions on here and I'll keep you posted on my progress along the way.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby bdogbb » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:51 am

Brlong wrote:Greetings everyone! First post on here so I'll introduce myself. I was in the Marine Corps (02-07) with 4 Iraq deployments and then began contracting, going back to Iraq twice more. I recently left my job to focus on finishing up my bachelor's in Political Science. I'm attending Penn State via their world campus and I'm scheduled to graduate Spring '15. I currently have a 3.8 GPA and I'm scheduled to take the June LSAT. Obviously, my score will dictate my options regarding applications this fall but I'm confident that my work history (both military and civilian) along with rec's and a 170ish LSAT should secure a number of T14 schools. My top choices are Harvard, Yale, NYU, Virginia and Georgetown so hopefully my cycle will go smoothly. I look forward to future discussions on here and I'll keep you posted on my progress along the way.


Study hard and make sure you are using good materials, (Powerscore, Testmasters). You should be able to get that 170 if you work at it, and what's great about taking it in June is you have two more chances if something goes wrong on test day. You should be scoring above 170 on the practice tests, most people don't get a bit below their average practice test scores on game day, so kentucky windage that shit and aim high.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby bdogbb » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:56 am

bdogbb wrote:
Brlong wrote:Greetings everyone! First post on here so I'll introduce myself. I was in the Marine Corps (02-07) with 4 Iraq deployments and then began contracting, going back to Iraq twice more. I recently left my job to focus on finishing up my bachelor's in Political Science. I'm attending Penn State via their world campus and I'm scheduled to graduate Spring '15. I currently have a 3.8 GPA and I'm scheduled to take the June LSAT. Obviously, my score will dictate my options regarding applications this fall but I'm confident that my work history (both military and civilian) along with rec's and a 170ish LSAT should secure a number of T14 schools. My top choices are Harvard, Yale, NYU, Virginia and Georgetown so hopefully my cycle will go smoothly. I look forward to future discussions on here and I'll keep you posted on my progress along the way.


Study hard and make sure you are using good materials, (Powerscore, Testmasters). You should be able to get that 170 if you work at it, and what's great about taking it in June is you have two more chances if something goes wrong on test day. You should be scoring above 170 on the practice tests, most people don't get a bit below their average practice test scores on game day, so kentucky windage that shit and aim high.


*most people get below their average scores

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby FairchildFLT » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:01 am

New enlisted troop checking in. I enlisted in the Air Force Reserve when I was 17 and spent two years there before coming over to the RegAF. I'm currently looking into applying to University of Denver as well as University of Colorado at Boulder for law school. I am currently a government contract specialist, so I hope to use that experience coupled with my J.D. to get a job in contract law. I'm currently hovering around a 3.6 GPA in a B.S. in Legal Studies with eight classes to go, and have just started looking into the LSAT. I am also a URM, bi-racial black and white. Hopefully these will help me to get into one of these two schools.

Glad to be here! Any information related to University of Denver or University of Colorado at Boulder or any other advice is welcome!

Thanks!

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby Decimus » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:12 am

FairchildFLT wrote:New enlisted troop checking in. I enlisted in the Air Force Reserve when I was 17 and spent two years there before coming over to the RegAF. I'm currently looking into applying to University of Denver as well as University of Colorado at Boulder for law school. I am currently a government contract specialist, so I hope to use that experience coupled with my J.D. to get a job in contract law. I'm currently hovering around a 3.6 GPA in a B.S. in Legal Studies with eight classes to go, and have just started looking into the LSAT. I am also a URM, bi-racial black and white. Hopefully these will help me to get into one of these two schools.

Glad to be here! Any information related to University of Denver or University of Colorado at Boulder or any other advice is welcome!

Thanks!


If you go to Boulder, take all the stickers off your car. People with DoD or service window stickers are known to be keyed often up on campus.

I know that doesn't help you get in, but it's still relevant!

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby Brlong » Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:43 pm

bdogbb wrote:
Brlong wrote:Greetings everyone! First post on here so I'll introduce myself. I was in the Marine Corps (02-07) with 4 Iraq deployments and then began contracting, going back to Iraq twice more. I recently left my job to focus on finishing up my bachelor's in Political Science. I'm attending Penn State via their world campus and I'm scheduled to graduate Spring '15. I currently have a 3.8 GPA and I'm scheduled to take the June LSAT. Obviously, my score will dictate my options regarding applications this fall but I'm confident that my work history (both military and civilian) along with rec's and a 170ish LSAT should secure a number of T14 schools. My top choices are Harvard, Yale, NYU, Virginia and Georgetown so hopefully my cycle will go smoothly. I look forward to future discussions on here and I'll keep you posted on my progress along the way.


Study hard and make sure you are using good materials, (Powerscore, Testmasters). You should be able to get that 170 if you work at it, and what's great about taking it in June is you have two more chances if something goes wrong on test day. You should be scoring above 170 on the practice tests, most people don't get a bit below their average practice test scores on game day, so kentucky windage that shit and aim high.


Thanks for the advice! I'm currently reviewing what study materials to purchase and will decide by the end of the week. Anyone else have advice concerning test prep materials? I've heard Manhattan is a good option too.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby FairchildFLT » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:12 pm

Decimus wrote:
FairchildFLT wrote:New enlisted troop checking in. I enlisted in the Air Force Reserve when I was 17 and spent two years there before coming over to the RegAF. I'm currently looking into applying to University of Denver as well as University of Colorado at Boulder for law school. I am currently a government contract specialist, so I hope to use that experience coupled with my J.D. to get a job in contract law. I'm currently hovering around a 3.6 GPA in a B.S. in Legal Studies with eight classes to go, and have just started looking into the LSAT. I am also a URM, bi-racial black and white. Hopefully these will help me to get into one of these two schools.

Glad to be here! Any information related to University of Denver or University of Colorado at Boulder or any other advice is welcome!

Thanks!


If you go to Boulder, take all the stickers off your car. People with DoD or service window stickers are known to be keyed often up on campus.

I know that doesn't help you get in, but it's still relevant!


Hey good to know! I appreciate it!

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby nontrad2014 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:51 pm

Marine O-3 medically retired in 2010. Graduated from undergrad in 2005, spent five-years on active duty, and was retired in 2010. Took some time and moved to Canada, and spent a year doing charity work in the Dominican Republic. I am currently in my second year of law school at a non-ABA school, and submitted my first applications for traditional law school in the fall.

My numbers are making this a crap shoot so looking for that miracle this year.
GPA 2.47
LSAT 152
Current law school GPA 2.62 (unweighted or curved)

Applied:
U of Denver (December 2013)
U of Colorado (December 2013)
Tulane (December 2013)- denied 01/07/2014
Loyola Chicago (December 2013)
Loyola New Orleans (December 2013)
Widener (December 2013)
Florida International (December 2013)- decision letter mailed 01/07/2014
William and Mary (December 2013)
Lewis and Clark (December 2013)




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