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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby underwear » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:19 pm

tjsmms061906 wrote: Non-traditional student. PM me if you have questions.

non-traditional? Is that the same thing as "URM"?

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby ScottRiqui » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:31 pm

underwear wrote:
tjsmms061906 wrote: Non-traditional student. PM me if you have questions.

non-traditional? Is that the same thing as "URM"?


No, "non-traditional" just usually means that you've had a significant gap between undergrad and starting law school. There's no codified "boost" for being non-trad like there is for being a URM, but depending on what you did during your gap, your experience can be helpful when applying for schools (and later, for jobs).

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby underwear » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:33 am

^ I see.

Done my PS. Would be nice if a vet could offer some advice on it.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby MT Cicero » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:57 am

underwear wrote:^ I see.

Done my PS. Would be nice if a vet could offer some advice on it.


PM sent. I'll take a look. I'd also be happy to provide you mine. Although we won't share near the same story, you can at least look at how I went with mine after quite a few reviews from folks on here. I might trigger some thoughts/changes!

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby Decimus » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:01 pm

I am excited to see so many veterans moving toward the legal profession. I can't wait until school starts in the Fall.

My SJA was a massive help in putting my application together, so for anyone else still on AD I strongly encourage you to use that resource if you have one. I'm just lucky enough to be coffee buddies with mine.

Good luck, everyone.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:39 pm

craigsan18 wrote:
underwear wrote:^ I see.

Done my PS. Would be nice if a vet could offer some advice on it.


PM sent. I'll take a look. I'd also be happy to provide you mine. Although we won't share near the same story, you can at least look at how I went with mine after quite a few reviews from folks on here. I might trigger some thoughts/changes!

I can do the same.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby tjsmms061906 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:42 pm

TheJanitor6203 wrote:
craigsan18 wrote:
underwear wrote:^ I see.

Done my PS. Would be nice if a vet could offer some advice on it.


PM sent. I'll take a look. I'd also be happy to provide you mine. Although we won't share near the same story, you can at least look at how I went with mine after quite a few reviews from folks on here. I might trigger some thoughts/changes!

I can do the same.


Ditto. My PS helped me get into at least one school.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby TheSpanishMain » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:07 pm

tjsmms061906 wrote:
ArcticDeckie wrote:I know it's on the early side, but how is the application season going for everyone? For me: can't complain, but still eagerly awaiting some replies:

American: In
George Mason: In with $
Fordham: Pending
GW: Pending
GULC: Deferred to RD, pending

GW's 'entering class profile' points out that it includes seven veterans, which I'll take as a good sign.


So far I'm having a pretty good cycle given my numbers (165/2.5)

WUSTL: In
Notre Dame: In
W&L: In
Wisconsin: In
Richmond: In
Loyola Chicago: In
CUA: In
Rutgers-Newark: In
St John's: In
Fordham: Ding
Univ. Washington: Waitlisted

Pending on too many others to list. I applied to a lot of schools because my numbers made it too hard to predict likely target schools (for me at least). Currently on active duty, E-6, Army, Infantry, Recruiting Duty, Deployment 09-10, Non-traditional student. PM me if you have questions.


I've been outperforming my numbers, and my military experience isn't really anything too crazy. I think if you can weave it into a compelling personal statement, it can really help.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby unc0mm0n1 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:47 pm

Decimus wrote:I am excited to see so many veterans moving toward the legal profession. I can't wait until school starts in the Fall.

My SJA was a massive help in putting my application together, so for anyone else still on AD I strongly encourage you to use that resource if you have one. I'm just lucky enough to be coffee buddies with mine.

Good luck, everyone.


MY SJA was completely worthless. He didn't understand anything about the job market today and what I should be looking for in a law school. I'm so glad I found this site.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby underwear » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:17 pm

craigsan18 wrote:PM sent. I'll take a look. I'd also be happy to provide you mine. Although we won't share near the same story, you can at least look at how I went with mine after quite a few reviews from folks on here. I might trigger some thoughts/changes!


TheJanitor6203 wrote:I can do the same.


Emails sent! There's a few things that really irk me about it (can't really tell a full story anyways... stupid 500 word requirement), but I'll wait until I hear your thoughts.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby MT Cicero » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:21 pm

Just curious, why the 500-word requirement? Usually ~900 words is about right for two double-spaced pages.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby underwear » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:29 pm

craigsan18 wrote:Just curious, why the 500-word requirement? Usually ~900 words is about right for two double-spaced pages.


I wasn't really sure how long a typical PS was and the school that I'm hoping to get in (even though it's a reach) has the 500 word requirement.

In retrospect, I should have made a template that's longer and then cut it to accommodate the schools that require a shorter PS. :|

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby underwear » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:51 am

janitor: it's not every day you get called a prick from a stranger on the interweb.... haha thanks for the perspective. doing some heavy editing now.

craigsan: i sent you another email.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby JazzyMac » Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:06 am

tjsmms061906 wrote:
ArcticDeckie wrote:I know it's on the early side, but how is the application season going for everyone? For me: can't complain, but still eagerly awaiting some replies:

American: In
George Mason: In with $
Fordham: Pending
GW: Pending
GULC: Deferred to RD, pending

GW's 'entering class profile' points out that it includes seven veterans, which I'll take as a good sign.


So far I'm having a pretty good cycle given my numbers (165/2.5)

WUSTL: In
Notre Dame: In
W&L: In
Wisconsin: In
Richmond: In
Loyola Chicago: In
CUA: In
Rutgers-Newark: In
St John's: In
Fordham: Ding
Univ. Washington: Waitlisted

Pending on too many others to list. I applied to a lot of schools because my numbers made it too hard to predict likely target schools (for me at least). Currently on active duty, E-6, Army, Infantry, Recruiting Duty, Deployment 09-10, Non-traditional student. PM me if you have questions.


That's awesome that you were accepted to those schools. Questions, is that 2.5 your LSAC GPA or your graduation GPA?

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:58 pm

underwear wrote:janitor: it's not every day you get called a prick from a stranger on the interweb.... haha thanks for the perspective. doing some heavy editing now.

craigsan: i sent you another email.

:P Only trying to be helpful.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby Bfalcon » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:48 pm

tjsmms061906 wrote:
ArcticDeckie wrote:I know it's on the early side, but how is the application season going for everyone? For me: can't complain, but still eagerly awaiting some replies:

American: In
George Mason: In with $
Fordham: Pending
GW: Pending
GULC: Deferred to RD, pending

GW's 'entering class profile' points out that it includes seven veterans, which I'll take as a good sign.


So far I'm having a pretty good cycle given my numbers (165/2.5)

WUSTL: In
Notre Dame: In
W&L: In
Wisconsin: In
Richmond: In
Loyola Chicago: In
CUA: In
Rutgers-Newark: In
St John's: In
Fordham: Ding
Univ. Washington: Waitlisted

Pending on too many others to list. I applied to a lot of schools because my numbers made it too hard to predict likely target schools (for me at least). Currently on active duty, E-6, Army, Infantry, Recruiting Duty, Deployment 09-10, Non-traditional student. PM me if you have questions.


Nice man, that looks like a great cycle for you so far with those numbers. Ducimus eh!

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby tjsmms061906 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:15 pm

@JazzyMac, that is my LSAC GPA. My degree GPA is not much better at 2.75.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby underwear » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:25 pm

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:36 pm

underwear wrote:I swear the next time a guy sits next to me verbally reading through the entire test, I'll slap him.

158, 3.2/3, top public undergrad, Non-URM

At what point do you disregard schools where you place below the 25th percentile of LSAT scores? I'm hitting below 1-3 points below their 25%. Same story with GPA as well (0.1 - 0.2). I've compiled a list of (reach) schools and requirements, but trying to determine whether or not I should bother.

So far:

U of Alabama
Notre Dame
Arizona State
U of Arizona
U of Maryland
UC Davis

Thoughts?

Ask for military fee waivers and apply to the ones that give you one plus any you really want to get into.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby underwear » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:19 pm

TheJanitor6203 wrote:Ask for military fee waivers and apply to the ones that give you one plus any you really want to get into.
I guess I'll start calling around.
Already applying late as it is... I'm gonna need a freaking miracle this cycle.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby paul554 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:55 am

underwear wrote:I swear the next time a guy sits next to me verbally reading through the entire test, I'll slap him.

158, 3.2/3, top public undergrad, Non-URM

At what point do you disregard schools where you place below the 25th percentile of LSAT scores? I'm hitting below 1-3 points below their 25%. Same story with GPA as well (0.1 - 0.2). I've compiled a list of (reach) schools and requirements, but trying to determine whether or not I should bother.

So far:

U of Alabama
Notre Dame
Arizona State
U of Arizona
U of Maryland
UC Davis

Thoughts?


Where are you trying to end up? Personally, I'm at Texas Tech and I chose them over Houston, SMU and Baylor due to their level of military friendliness. The economy is great in Texas and COL is low in Lubbock, so the living stipend from the GI bill goes far. I have no complaints or regrets, and with your numbers you should be good to go (I do think the Texas schools in general give a bump for military experience).

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby ArcticDeckie » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:42 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:
tjsmms061906 wrote:
ArcticDeckie wrote:I know it's on the early side, but how is the application season going for everyone? For me: can't complain, but still eagerly awaiting some replies:

American: In
George Mason: In with $
Fordham: Pending
GW: Pending
GULC: Deferred to RD, pending

GW's 'entering class profile' points out that it includes seven veterans, which I'll take as a good sign.


So far I'm having a pretty good cycle given my numbers (165/2.5)

WUSTL: In
Notre Dame: In
W&L: In
Wisconsin: In
Richmond: In
Loyola Chicago: In
CUA: In
Rutgers-Newark: In
St John's: In
Fordham: Ding
Univ. Washington: Waitlisted

Pending on too many others to list. I applied to a lot of schools because my numbers made it too hard to predict likely target schools (for me at least). Currently on active duty, E-6, Army, Infantry, Recruiting Duty, Deployment 09-10, Non-traditional student. PM me if you have questions.


I've been outperforming my numbers, and my military experience isn't really anything too crazy. I think if you can weave it into a compelling personal statement, it can really help.


This is keeping me optimistic. Hopefully my PS can give me the same 'military boost' we all hope for in here, I could sure use it. Looks like you guys have had a great admit cycle so far, keep it up!

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:23 pm

Today is my last day in uniform!

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby haus » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:24 pm

TheJanitor6203 wrote:Today is my last day in uniform!

Congrats!

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:28 pm

haus wrote:
TheJanitor6203 wrote:Today is my last day in uniform!

Congrats!

Thanks! It felt great! My 1SG kept asking why I looked so happy. :mrgreen:




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