mdubs314 wrote:OLitch wrote:I was just dinged from my top choice. Now, I'm rethinking my chances of getting in anywhere. I would like to get into a T14. I'm in pity party mode worried that even regional schools (vandy, Emory, W&M...) are a long shot.
4 years noncombatant military enlisted
3.70 UGPA with a bad first year and a near 4.0 for the rest of my time
3.9 grad GPA
Lots of community service
I have one additional great soft but also a gap in my employment history
2 LORs from bosses.
Military service, grad degree, and huge upward trend in UGPA make it difficult for me to judge where I stand.
What do you think my chances are?
When those rejection letters start rolling in, it's hard to NOT go into pity-party mode. I remember when I got my rejection letter from Boalt (my #1). I think your chances are decent at getting WLd at those schools you listed. Since you've already submitted, It's hard to talk about your chances at a T14 without seeing your full application.
1) your grad GPA is meaningless. Have you thought about asking one of your grad school teachers for a L-of-R? You could submit that to school that WL you.
2) start reaching out to the veteran associations at each school. You'll often come upon a vet that works with the admission office; someone the admission office specifically ask to talk to vets. Treat those conversations like an unofficial interview. Prep for them like an interview. The tone will be more casual, but prep for it and treat it like an interview. Vandy has a veteran professor you'll likely get put in touch with. That's a good thing. He's a huge advocate for vets and will likely ask you about coming out to see the campus and talk with him. If you have the ability to travel to Vandy and meet with him, do so.
3) IMO, Emory isn't as veteran friendly as the other schools in its Tier. That judgment is somewhat based on their yellow ribbon contribution rate, which is terribly low. Even if you can't tap into the yellow ribbon program, a school's contribution rate can serve as an litmus test for the value they place on veteran status during the admissions process. Perhaps there is a Emory vet on TLS that can chime in. Maybe they offer substantial scholarship money instead.
4) I don't know as much about W&M. Sorry.
5) consider adding ND and WUSTL to the mix if you haven't already. great schools for vets in that Tier.
6) Have you been submitting the "why XYZ law school" essays? If not, start giving those some thought. You'll want to submit those to schools that WL you. You can still contact service2school for help even if you've already submitted.
7) agree that you should consider taking the LSAT again. A few more points could make a huge difference.
Thank you for the advice. I underperformed on my LSAT. I made two strange mistakes that probably cost me a good 5-7 points. I will likely retake in December. My hesitation lies in the fact that I have children. When I studied last time I missed baseball games, play dates, and school functions. I hate the idea of going through that again right before I commit myself to that same lifestyle for 3 years. LSAT studying is too temporary to get a nanny and this last year with my kids feels important. I was delusional to think that my softs would carry me. It looks like I don't have a choice.
I think I could get close to a 170. Do you think I should hold off on T14 applications until after the LSAT or apply now? I gave the same rundown to admissions at my top choice and they told me to submit early and then request a re-review after the LSAT. Even though that is what I was told a couple months ago, I'm not sure I can move forward with a rejection.
Again, family presents a problem. I need to make a decision as quickly as possible because I will need to get my children into school as well. Most schools require a deposit between December and February. Having a family before a career was great but right now it is complicating things.