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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby tennactitans » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:55 pm

Anyone ever come across a spreadsheet or outline of schools that automatically offer fee waivers to vets?

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby haus » Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:13 pm

tennactitans wrote:Anyone ever come across a spreadsheet or outline of schools that automatically offer fee waivers to vets?

Take a look at page #1 of this thread.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby tennactitans » Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:19 pm

haus wrote:
tennactitans wrote:Anyone ever come across a spreadsheet or outline of schools that automatically offer fee waivers to vets?

Take a look at page #1 of this thread.


Grateful and ashamed at the same time. Thank you for the help. Now, could I ask for an explanation as to how to go about applying to those schools? Do I have to request the waivers individually, or is it automatic when I apply through LSAC with the VET box marked? Again, I appreciate the effort.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby haus » Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:51 pm

tennactitans wrote:Now, could I ask for an explanation as to how to go about applying to those schools? Do I have to request the waivers individually, or is it automatic when I apply through LSAC with the VET box marked? Again, I appreciate the effort.

Some of the schools I opted to apply to automatically waived my fee, for these I am unsure if it was because I was a vet, or if they simply waived fees for everyone.

For those schools that wanted a fee I wrote them requesting a waiver due to my status as a veteran. The letter was fairly simple (quite similar to an example letter I think was in this thread, but I failed to locate on a quick search).

Most schools I contacted agreed to the waiver immediately, one or two asked for proof, and these school provided the waivers after I answered their questions.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby JazzyMac » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:13 am

graphia wrote:
Cobretti wrote:
FairchildFLT wrote:Northwestern has a merit scholarship if you ED...has anyone heard of them reclassing it for housing if you're GI Bill elligilbe? (I'm not expecting $50,000 but any bit helps)

merit scholarships at NU are not reclassified, you wind up just losing most of it


It might be worth putting together a list of schools that are willing to reclassify scholarships for housing. I know NYU wasn't willing to either, and I think I remember someone earlier in this thread saying Berkeley reclassified a scholarship to cover COL (but correct me if I'm wrong).


This is a great idea. I've already got my mini-chart showing what schools have free tuition, what schools are free to apply (making it almost silly not to apply). The mo' money, the mo' better.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby FairchildFLT » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:09 pm

JazzyMac wrote:
graphia wrote:
Cobretti wrote:
FairchildFLT wrote:Northwestern has a merit scholarship if you ED...has anyone heard of them reclassing it for housing if you're GI Bill elligilbe? (I'm not expecting $50,000 but any bit helps)

merit scholarships at NU are not reclassified, you wind up just losing most of it


It might be worth putting together a list of schools that are willing to reclassify scholarships for housing. I know NYU wasn't willing to either, and I think I remember someone earlier in this thread saying Berkeley reclassified a scholarship to cover COL (but correct me if I'm wrong).


This is a great idea. I've already got my mini-chart showing what schools have free tuition, what schools are free to apply (making it almost silly not to apply). The mo' money, the mo' better.


I've got emails out to Chicago, Northwestern, Virginia, UC Berkley, Duke, Michigan, and UT Austin. I will email the rest of the T14 if no one beats me to it.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby FairchildFLT » Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:45 pm

So far
Will not reclass: Northwestern
Will reclass Michigan,Texas

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby blcoleman » Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:16 pm

Dondarrion wrote:If I take the December 2014 LSAT, do I still have a shot at getting accepted for the fall semester 2015, or should I just delay everything and try for the next year? I can't move my timeline up at all due to deployment but after looking at several school's deadlines, I will definitely be SOL for ED and I could be at a major disadvantage for regular enrollment.

Thoughts?



You have plenty of time. I took the December 2013 LSAT and got accepted into quite a few schools for Fall of 2014. Now I ended up having to defer enrollment due to military obligations , but that was also easy to get. I am going to Louisiana State in the Fall of 2015.

Also keep in mind many schools offer in state tution for military getting out pursue education. I am also able to use my scholarship from LSU to cover the cost of daycare. So win/win all around.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby Magical Trevor » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:05 am

Here's a longshot: I'm trying to track down my vaccination records before the start of the term, but the VA being what it is and my last unit being what it is, I'm having no luck. I was first sent to the National Personnel Records Center, no dice, and I tried the VA Records Management Center who said they don't have them and suggested calling my last unit which was a recruiting command that doesn't maintain records and just sent everything to MEDPROS, to which I no longer have access. I ETSed in April, the records have to be somewhere. Does anyone have any suggestions on who else I can contact to get a hold of those records?

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby gobosox » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:27 am

Has anyone tried to get yellow ribbon with less than 100% of the GI Bill? I thought about asking about it, but I'm not sure if it would be worth it.

At my school, they said that they allocate 10 slots for 20k/year. I figure if they have less than that, they might be inclined to give me the money.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby MT Cicero » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:51 am

gobosox wrote:Has anyone tried to get yellow ribbon with less than 100% of the GI Bill? I thought about asking about it, but I'm not sure if it would be worth it.

At my school, they said that they allocate 10 slots for 20k/year. I figure if they have less than that, they might be inclined to give me the money.


They YRP isn't from the school, although the school contributes and participates. But given the Govt/VA runs the program, you would be completely ineligible per the rules.

I don't know how amenable a school would be to "Hey, I'm a vet that's ineligible for YRP but oh so close (assuming 90%)...any chance you guys could throw some extra $$$ at me?" I think it would be akin to a normal scholly negotiation personally, because the school can't just allow you into their portion of the YRP.

Disclaimer: 0L (but a fair amount of working knowledge of GI Bill / YRP / giant bureaucracies)

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby Cobretti » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:25 pm

Soco Law wrote:
gobosox wrote:Has anyone tried to get yellow ribbon with less than 100% of the GI Bill? I thought about asking about it, but I'm not sure if it would be worth it.

At my school, they said that they allocate 10 slots for 20k/year. I figure if they have less than that, they might be inclined to give me the money.


They YRP isn't from the school, although the school contributes and participates. But given the Govt/VA runs the program, you would be completely ineligible per the rules.

I don't know how amenable a school would be to "Hey, I'm a vet that's ineligible for YRP but oh so close (assuming 90%)...any chance you guys could throw some extra $$$ at me?" I think it would be akin to a normal scholly negotiation personally, because the school can't just allow you into their portion of the YRP.

Disclaimer: 0L (but a fair amount of working knowledge of GI Bill / YRP / giant bureaucracies)

+1

Magical Trevor wrote:Here's a longshot: I'm trying to track down my vaccination records before the start of the term, but the VA being what it is and my last unit being what it is, I'm having no luck. I was first sent to the National Personnel Records Center, no dice, and I tried the VA Records Management Center who said they don't have them and suggested calling my last unit which was a recruiting command that doesn't maintain records and just sent everything to MEDPROS, to which I no longer have access. I ETSed in April, the records have to be somewhere. Does anyone have any suggestions on who else I can contact to get a hold of those records?

Didn't you have to get these when you separated? I had a copy of mine that was given to me when I was outprocessing, but I'm sure you've checked all your paperwork... Worst case scenario you can just schedule an appointment with any doctor to test for immunities and you'll still be fine, just be sure to get the exact list of vaccines required from your school and set that up early enough that you'll be ready.

You can also try tracking down your high school shot records since most of them don't require boosters and those dates would still be OK.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby gobosox » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:42 pm

Soco Law wrote:
gobosox wrote:Has anyone tried to get yellow ribbon with less than 100% of the GI Bill? I thought about asking about it, but I'm not sure if it would be worth it.

At my school, they said that they allocate 10 slots for 20k/year. I figure if they have less than that, they might be inclined to give me the money.


They YRP isn't from the school, although the school contributes and participates. But given the Govt/VA runs the program, you would be completely ineligible per the rules.

I don't know how amenable a school would be to "Hey, I'm a vet that's ineligible for YRP but oh so close (assuming 90%)...any chance you guys could throw some extra $$$ at me?" I think it would be akin to a normal scholly negotiation personally, because the school can't just allow you into their portion of the YRP.

Disclaimer: 0L (but a fair amount of working knowledge of GI Bill / YRP / giant bureaucracies)


Yes, I meant getting at the matching contribution from the school. Thanks for that. Though, I am only at the 40% threshold...

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby paul554 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:46 pm

gobosox wrote:
Soco Law wrote:
gobosox wrote:Has anyone tried to get yellow ribbon with less than 100% of the GI Bill? I thought about asking about it, but I'm not sure if it would be worth it.

At my school, they said that they allocate 10 slots for 20k/year. I figure if they have less than that, they might be inclined to give me the money.


They YRP isn't from the school, although the school contributes and participates. But given the Govt/VA runs the program, you would be completely ineligible per the rules.

I don't know how amenable a school would be to "Hey, I'm a vet that's ineligible for YRP but oh so close (assuming 90%)...any chance you guys could throw some extra $$$ at me?" I think it would be akin to a normal scholly negotiation personally, because the school can't just allow you into their portion of the YRP.

Disclaimer: 0L (but a fair amount of working knowledge of GI Bill / YRP / giant bureaucracies)


Yes, I meant getting at the matching contribution from the school. Thanks for that. Though, I am only at the 40% threshold...


Oh, that's a real long shot with that percentage. I would try to negotiate for more money and use this as simple one point, do not make it your primary one though cause it seems a little thin.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby paul554 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:49 pm

Magical Trevor wrote:Here's a longshot: I'm trying to track down my vaccination records before the start of the term, but the VA being what it is and my last unit being what it is, I'm having no luck. I was first sent to the National Personnel Records Center, no dice, and I tried the VA Records Management Center who said they don't have them and suggested calling my last unit which was a recruiting command that doesn't maintain records and just sent everything to MEDPROS, to which I no longer have access. I ETSed in April, the records have to be somewhere. Does anyone have any suggestions on who else I can contact to get a hold of those records?


Go to the local VA and sign up for myhealthevet, it's the VA's new online records, appointments, and so forth system. I found my vaccination records on there, though a lot of my other military medical records were not online, so it's kind of hit or miss. The other option is if your still near a military facility go to their clinic and request your records. Their electronic for the most part and they should be able to get you a copy.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby Magical Trevor » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:01 pm

Thanks for the suggestions, guys.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby Dondarrion » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:26 pm

So it looks like I am not going to be able to take the LSAT on my upcoming deployment. I am going to push my date back to June 2015 and hope to enroll in the fall of 2016. Sucks but it is going to give me more time to make sure everything I have is good to go and I am one of the first applicants for ED and regular admission at my target schools.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby ScottRiqui » Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:42 pm

Magical Trevor wrote:Thanks for the suggestions, guys.


How old will you be when you start law school? You might want to dig down a bit and see if there are any exemptions. For U.S. resident students, my school only requires the meningitis vaccine, and only if you'll be 21 or younger when classes start.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:18 pm

Magical Trevor wrote:Here's a longshot: I'm trying to track down my vaccination records before the start of the term, but the VA being what it is and my last unit being what it is, I'm having no luck. I was first sent to the National Personnel Records Center, no dice, and I tried the VA Records Management Center who said they don't have them and suggested calling my last unit which was a recruiting command that doesn't maintain records and just sent everything to MEDPROS, to which I no longer have access. I ETSed in April, the records have to be somewhere. Does anyone have any suggestions on who else I can contact to get a hold of those records?


I just got out a few months ago and I got a copy of my entire medical records when I left. If you didn't, you should have been required to give a copy to the major medical facility on your installation. Have you tried calling the medical records office from you last duty station directly? You may also be able to get someone in your old TMC to look it up. Since you just recently got out your info may still be in the system.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:23 pm

haus wrote:
tennactitans wrote:Now, could I ask for an explanation as to how to go about applying to those schools? Do I have to request the waivers individually, or is it automatic when I apply through LSAC with the VET box marked? Again, I appreciate the effort.

Some of the schools I opted to apply to automatically waived my fee, for these I am unsure if it was because I was a vet, or if they simply waived fees for everyone.

For those schools that wanted a fee I wrote them requesting a waiver due to my status as a veteran. The letter was fairly simple (quite similar to an example letter I think was in this thread, but I failed to locate on a quick search).

Most schools I contacted agreed to the waiver immediately, one or two asked for proof, and these school provided the waivers after I answered their questions.


If you haven't already asked, here's the form letter I used when requesting fee waivers:


(XXX Law School) Admissions,

I'd like to request a fee waiver if they are available for veterans. I'd be happy to provide some type of proof if it is needed. Thank you.

(Your name)

LSAC# 44444444

It's really that simple and it worked for almost every school.

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Re: ITT: Military Veterans

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:27 pm

03121202698008 wrote:You all wish your unit photos could look this good:

Image


Just found this gem while looking for something else.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby TheJanitor6203 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:38 pm

Here's what I was looking for. A poster above mentioned they were making a list of all the schools they could go to for free. It has already been done for you via Soco Law. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwMLcV2ajaqRX1VqU2tja0xnOFU/edit

OP, could you add this link to OP?

Also, here's a list of schools that gave me a veteran fee waiver that aren't already on the OP:
Baylor, Boston, Columbia (which is on the list as not giving them but they gave me one), Houston, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech, Alabama, and UPenn

No fee waiver: SMU, Cornell

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby FairchildFLT » Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:48 pm

TheJanitor6203 wrote:Here's what I was looking for. A poster above mentioned they were making a list of all the schools they could go to for free. It has already been done for you via Soco Law. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwMLcV2ajaqRX1VqU2tja0xnOFU/edit

OP, could you add this link to OP?

Also, here's a list of schools that gave me a veteran fee waiver that aren't already on the OP:
Baylor, Boston, Columbia (which is on the list as not giving them but they gave me one), Houston, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech, Alabama, and UPenn

No fee waiver: SMU, Cornell


Does this list mean free whether instate or not?

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby MT Cicero » Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:51 pm

FairchildFLT wrote:
TheJanitor6203 wrote:Here's what I was looking for. A poster above mentioned they were making a list of all the schools they could go to for free. It has already been done for you via Soco Law. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwMLcV2ajaqRX1VqU2tja0xnOFU/edit

OP, could you add this link to OP?

Also, here's a list of schools that gave me a veteran fee waiver that aren't already on the OP:
Baylor, Boston, Columbia (which is on the list as not giving them but they gave me one), Houston, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech, Alabama, and UPenn

No fee waiver: SMU, Cornell


Does this list mean free whether instate or not?


Yep. I used out-of-state applicants for all the calculations, so if you're in-state at a school that doesn't offer generous YR benefits (looking at you UW, Iowa, UMD, UGA, UF), then you'd obviously be free per G.I. Bill. Assuming 100% of course.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby zVo » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:33 pm

Hey everyone,

I'm an Army CW2 helicopter pilot and I've got a few years left before I apply to law school. I've read through most of this thread and have read very little about any veterans with the intent of going back to the military as a JAG officer.

For those of you who do intend to apply for JAG,
why do you want to become a JAG officer?

For those who do not want to rejoin the military,
why do you not want to become a JAG officer?

I'm very interested in the opinions in this thread since a lot of other topics discussing JAG have little to zero experience with any branch of the military.

I'm weighing the pros and cons myself. I'm attracted to JAG Corps because with 10 more years of active duty service and I'll have a pension and a variety of legal experience that would hopefully give me an edge in a job hunt. I don't know enough about the JAG Corps to know if it's going to increase exit options or diminish them.




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