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MichiganHoosier
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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby MichiganHoosier » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:30 am

Thank you so much for the detailed reply. It was beyond helpful!

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby Cjackson » Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:45 pm

Cjackson wrote:Hey everyone, I'm re-applying this year after sitting it out for a year and reassessing due to a rough cycle. I have improved my GPA significantly and hope to do the same to my LSAT in SEP. I have a couple questions though I'm hoping some of you can help me with.

Last year I applied with what I would now consider a half-assed effort. Mainly because I did not write an addendum for my horrible GPA during my first two years and my 4.0 for the last two years after restarting school after joining the military. I also didn't write a diversity statement. Between the two of those, I feel like I left a lot on the table. I had a lot going on last year between returning from a deployment, going right into the LSAT and preparing to ETS while deciding to go to LS or take a deployment contractor job (I guess subconsciously I wanted to go for the overseas money).

Does anyone happen to have an example of something they put together for either of those that I could use as a guide? I'm hoping for some type of a GPA addendum and an idea of what a diversity statement might look like. I don't have a clue about them as far as formatting and content is concerned.

My other question is regarding JAG and its possible affects on practicing law after the military. I guess I just don't know the full extent of what a JAG officer can do in the military but I can't help but wonder if I took that path because I enjoy the military and the retirement, that it might hinder my opportunities outside of GOV down the road. I'm curious to hear what some current JAGs have to say about it.

Thanks in advance.



Anybody..........anything?? Could really use an example or two of a GPA addendum (someone has to have one written about being a crappy student before joining and then turning things around down the road) and a diversity statement. Just need something to point me in the right direction.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby Wipfelder » Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:12 pm

Cjackson wrote:
Cjackson wrote:Hey everyone, I'm re-applying this year after sitting it out for a year and reassessing due to a rough cycle. I have improved my GPA significantly and hope to do the same to my LSAT in SEP. I have a couple questions though I'm hoping some of you can help me with.

Last year I applied with what I would now consider a half-assed effort. Mainly because I did not write an addendum for my horrible GPA during my first two years and my 4.0 for the last two years after restarting school after joining the military. I also didn't write a diversity statement. Between the two of those, I feel like I left a lot on the table. I had a lot going on last year between returning from a deployment, going right into the LSAT and preparing to ETS while deciding to go to LS or take a deployment contractor job (I guess subconsciously I wanted to go for the overseas money).

Does anyone happen to have an example of something they put together for either of those that I could use as a guide? I'm hoping for some type of a GPA addendum and an idea of what a diversity statement might look like. I don't have a clue about them as far as formatting and content is concerned.

My other question is regarding JAG and its possible affects on practicing law after the military. I guess I just don't know the full extent of what a JAG officer can do in the military but I can't help but wonder if I took that path because I enjoy the military and the retirement, that it might hinder my opportunities outside of GOV down the road. I'm curious to hear what some current JAGs have to say about it.

Thanks in advance.



Anybody..........anything?? Could really use an example or two of a GPA addendum (someone has to have one written about being a crappy student before joining and then turning things around down the road) and a diversity statement. Just need something to point me in the right direction.


I don't think a GPA addendum would be very helpful, honestly.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby MT Cicero » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:14 am

Wipfelder wrote:
Cjackson wrote:
Cjackson wrote:Hey everyone, I'm re-applying this year after sitting it out for a year and reassessing due to a rough cycle. I have improved my GPA significantly and hope to do the same to my LSAT in SEP. I have a couple questions though I'm hoping some of you can help me with.

Last year I applied with what I would now consider a half-assed effort. Mainly because I did not write an addendum for my horrible GPA during my first two years and my 4.0 for the last two years after restarting school after joining the military. I also didn't write a diversity statement. Between the two of those, I feel like I left a lot on the table. I had a lot going on last year between returning from a deployment, going right into the LSAT and preparing to ETS while deciding to go to LS or take a deployment contractor job (I guess subconsciously I wanted to go for the overseas money).

Does anyone happen to have an example of something they put together for either of those that I could use as a guide? I'm hoping for some type of a GPA addendum and an idea of what a diversity statement might look like. I don't have a clue about them as far as formatting and content is concerned.

My other question is regarding JAG and its possible affects on practicing law after the military. I guess I just don't know the full extent of what a JAG officer can do in the military but I can't help but wonder if I took that path because I enjoy the military and the retirement, that it might hinder my opportunities outside of GOV down the road. I'm curious to hear what some current JAGs have to say about it.

Thanks in advance.



Anybody..........anything?? Could really use an example or two of a GPA addendum (someone has to have one written about being a crappy student before joining and then turning things around down the road) and a diversity statement. Just need something to point me in the right direction.


I don't think a GPA addendum would be very helpful, honestly.


Yeah, tough to know whether one would help, but usually one would write it because of something very acute during school which caused a semester (or maybe a year) to go severely bad. The "I was a bad student but look at me now" isn't usually the addendum side of the house. So many people are in that boat.

I was a bad undergrad student who just stayed bad. I initially thought about writing an addendum letting them know that was 10+ years ago/look at my Masters/whatever. I didn't. I didn't even really hit it during my personal statement, other than weaving in a sentence or two that hinted at it. Not overt though.

Admissions offices have dozens or hundreds of people who were bad students--then got good. Likely many military are in the same boat. Having now worked closely with an admissions office at a T14, I just don't see an admissions officer going, "Ah ha. I see what happened here. He/she's now ready for law school."

I'd go with no addendum myself, absent circumstances (family death, crime against you, etc.) that make it more than a bad-to-good tale.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby usn26 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:33 am

MT Cicero wrote:Yeah, tough to know whether one would help, but usually one would write it because of something very acute during school which caused a semester (or maybe a year) to go severely bad. The "I was a bad student but look at me now" isn't usually the addendum side of the house. So many people are in that boat.

I was a bad undergrad student who just stayed bad. I initially thought about writing an addendum letting them know that was 10+ years ago/look at my Masters/whatever. I didn't. I didn't even really hit it during my personal statement, other than weaving in a sentence or two that hinted at it. Not overt though.

Admissions offices have dozens or hundreds of people who were bad students--then got good. Likely many military are in the same boat. Having now worked closely with an admissions office at a T14, I just don't see an admissions officer going, "Ah ha. I see what happened here. He/she's now ready for law school."

I'd go with no addendum myself, absent circumstances (family death, crime against you, etc.) that make it more than a bad-to-good tale.


^^

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby MichiganHoosier » Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:06 pm

MT Cicero wrote:
Wipfelder wrote:
Cjackson wrote:
Cjackson wrote:Hey everyone, I'm re-applying this year after sitting it out for a year and reassessing due to a rough cycle. I have improved my GPA significantly and hope to do the same to my LSAT in SEP. I have a couple questions though I'm hoping some of you can help me with.

Last year I applied with what I would now consider a half-assed effort. Mainly because I did not write an addendum for my horrible GPA during my first two years and my 4.0 for the last two years after restarting school after joining the military. I also didn't write a diversity statement. Between the two of those, I feel like I left a lot on the table. I had a lot going on last year between returning from a deployment, going right into the LSAT and preparing to ETS while deciding to go to LS or take a deployment contractor job (I guess subconsciously I wanted to go for the overseas money).

Does anyone happen to have an example of something they put together for either of those that I could use as a guide? I'm hoping for some type of a GPA addendum and an idea of what a diversity statement might look like. I don't have a clue about them as far as formatting and content is concerned.

My other question is regarding JAG and its possible affects on practicing law after the military. I guess I just don't know the full extent of what a JAG officer can do in the military but I can't help but wonder if I took that path because I enjoy the military and the retirement, that it might hinder my opportunities outside of GOV down the road. I'm curious to hear what some current JAGs have to say about it.

Thanks in advance.



Anybody..........anything?? Could really use an example or two of a GPA addendum (someone has to have one written about being a crappy student before joining and then turning things around down the road) and a diversity statement. Just need something to point me in the right direction.


I don't think a GPA addendum would be very helpful, honestly.


Yeah, tough to know whether one would help, but usually one would write it because of something very acute during school which caused a semester (or maybe a year) to go severely bad. The "I was a bad student but look at me now" isn't usually the addendum side of the house. So many people are in that boat.

I was a bad undergrad student who just stayed bad. I initially thought about writing an addendum letting them know that was 10+ years ago/look at my Masters/whatever. I didn't. I didn't even really hit it during my personal statement, other than weaving in a sentence or two that hinted at it. Not overt though.

Admissions offices have dozens or hundreds of people who were bad students--then got good. Likely many military are in the same boat. Having now worked closely with an admissions office at a T14, I just don't see an admissions officer going, "Ah ha. I see what happened here. He/she's now ready for law school."

I'd go with no addendum myself, absent circumstances (family death, crime against you, etc.) that make it more than a bad-to-good tale.


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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby Cjackson » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:50 pm

MT Cicero wrote:
Wipfelder wrote:
Cjackson wrote:
Cjackson wrote:Hey everyone, I'm re-applying this year after sitting it out for a year and reassessing due to a rough cycle. I have improved my GPA significantly and hope to do the same to my LSAT in SEP. I have a couple questions though I'm hoping some of you can help me with.

Last year I applied with what I would now consider a half-assed effort. Mainly because I did not write an addendum for my horrible GPA during my first two years and my 4.0 for the last two years after restarting school after joining the military. I also didn't write a diversity statement. Between the two of those, I feel like I left a lot on the table. I had a lot going on last year between returning from a deployment, going right into the LSAT and preparing to ETS while deciding to go to LS or take a deployment contractor job (I guess subconsciously I wanted to go for the overseas money).

Does anyone happen to have an example of something they put together for either of those that I could use as a guide? I'm hoping for some type of a GPA addendum and an idea of what a diversity statement might look like. I don't have a clue about them as far as formatting and content is concerned.

My other question is regarding JAG and its possible affects on practicing law after the military. I guess I just don't know the full extent of what a JAG officer can do in the military but I can't help but wonder if I took that path because I enjoy the military and the retirement, that it might hinder my opportunities outside of GOV down the road. I'm curious to hear what some current JAGs have to say about it.

Thanks in advance.


Anybody..........anything?? Could really use an example or two of a GPA addendum (someone has to have one written about being a crappy student before joining and then turning things around down the road) and a diversity statement. Just need something to point me in the right direction.


I don't think a GPA addendum would be very helpful, honestly.


Yeah, tough to know whether one would help, but usually one would write it because of something very acute during school which caused a semester (or maybe a year) to go severely bad. The "I was a bad student but look at me now" isn't usually the addendum side of the house. So many people are in that boat.

I was a bad undergrad student who just stayed bad. I initially thought about writing an addendum letting them know that was 10+ years ago/look at my Masters/whatever. I didn't. I didn't even really hit it during my personal statement, other than weaving in a sentence or two that hinted at it. Not overt though.

Admissions offices have dozens or hundreds of people who were bad students--then got good. Likely many military are in the same boat. Having now worked closely with an admissions office at a T14, I just don't see an admissions officer going, "Ah ha. I see what happened here. He/she's now ready for law school."

I'd go with no addendum myself, absent circumstances (family death, crime against you, etc.) that make it more than a bad-to-good tale.



Thank you guys for your input. My situation is one of those you kinda touched on in which a death in the family around the time I started school resulted in having to take on financial responsibilities around the household to help my family out. I touched on it in my personal statement but I didn't mention the impact it had on school. I'll go through my statement and make sure they wouldn't be saying the same thing if I decided to write one.

Do you guys have an example of a diversity statement you wouldn't mind sharing??

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby AJordan » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:52 am

Any other Army NCOs celebrating passover today?

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby KPUSN07 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:29 pm

A few questions - do many veterans apply to law school? Are veterans ranked at the admissions board against each other or looked at against other candidates (or both I guess)?

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby Timm » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:37 am

I'm British military, posted out here in the US.

Does anybody have any objections to me tagging along to this thread?

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby AJordan » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:18 am

Timm wrote:I'm British military, posted out here in the US.

Does anybody have any objections to me tagging along to this thread?


Hell no. Anybody who signed up knowing Helmand province was an option deserves all the respect they can get.

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Re: Veterans Thread

Postby nubcs » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:43 am

KPUSN07 wrote:A few questions - do many veterans apply to law school? Are veterans ranked at the admissions board against each other or looked at against other candidates (or both I guess)?


I think veterans are more likely to apply to business school than law school, from what I've seen from the guys transitioning around the same time as me, and from visiting law schools. For example, I think at NYU, the guys running the veterans' association last year said they had four members total, while their MBA counterparts had 10+.

As for veterans ranked against each other, I don't think that's the case. You'll almost certainly get looked at with all other candidates. That being said, some schools do have a veterans' committee that assists in the admissions process, at least as an extra pair of eyes to help explain things on resumes and personal statements.




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