If I knew a smart, well-pedigreed kid who was considering LS

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Re: If I knew a smart, well-pedigreed kid who was considering LS

Postby Blessedassurance » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:37 pm

Disregard.
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Postby Kronk » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:38 pm

lolol at spelling whisky with an E.

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Postby Curious1 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:39 pm

Well. This got ugly fast.

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Postby Blessedassurance » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:39 pm

Kronk wrote:lolol at spelling whisky with an E.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky

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Postby Blessedassurance » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:47 pm

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Postby 23402385985 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:49 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
Curious1 wrote:Interest doesn't matter at all?


How do you know you'll enjoy being a lawyer?


I chose law school over med school because I was too fucking burned out on sciences. There are quite a bit of people who I know who feel the same way, too.

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Re: If I knew a smart, well-pedigreed kid who was considering LS

Postby Redzo » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:56 pm

If I knew a smart, well-pedigreed kid who was considering LS,

I would roll him and take his cash.

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Postby Blessedassurance » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:13 pm

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Re: If I knew a smart, well-pedigreed kid who was considering LS

Postby Curious1 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:15 pm

And...you're applying to law school why? Where are you hoping to go?

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Postby Blessedassurance » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:19 pm

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Re: If I knew a smart, well-pedigreed kid who was considering LS

Postby bport hopeful » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:23 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
Try not to listen to him. When he first came to this site, his life's goal was to go to Indiana. Watch him kick, scream and level accusations of elitism. What manner of creature manages a 3.2 or thereabouts in Political science?

Haha did you look up my post history? That was pretty cool. That wasnt my lifes goal, I just thought Id get a decent scholly.

As far as my GPA, the kind of person who does that is the person who was partying and boning and ya know, living life.

Also, I was a double major double minor. Have fun doing that in 4 semesters.

Also, like I said, ive drank and fucked a lot. Im cool with where I am. Got into the school I actually wanted to get into with their largest scholly. Lifes pretty chill.

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Postby bport hopeful » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:27 pm

Im also gunna leave you with this:

Everything you are doing, you are doing for tang. You may not know it, or realize it. But thats basically what life boils down to. And Im already on that shit, homie. Everything else Im doing is bonus.

Let me put it to you in a way your Whiskey drinking nerd ass can understand.

Think of me as Sonic; I already burnt past the flag, Im just trying to jump in the golden ring.

Have fun trying to get what Ive already achieved.

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Re: If I knew a smart, well-pedigreed kid who was considering LS

Postby rayiner » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:27 pm

Curious1 wrote:
No, only academics like reading law review articles.

Being a practicing corporate lawyer is a mix of cool things and "WTF" things.

At lower levels, you do things like circle-ups. Which is literally going through an SEC filing and circling every number and noting whether it needs backup from accounting (if a revenue figure or something like that) or the deal team (if it's something like the number of stores a company has). Then you get back a bunch of data and you go back through the circled figures to verify that they match the data. This is one of the "WTF" things.

At higher levels you do stuff like negotiate with your counter-party's lawyer to settle a claim in a bankruptcy proceeding for less than face value. Do background research on the law and be like "look you've got like a Q% chance of winning this in front of the judge and it'll cost you $X to litigate; why not just take our offer of $Y?"

Ultimately you're an advisor. Clients call you up and ask things like "we're thinking of doing X, what problems might you run into?"

ALSO: Chemistry and Biology are no fun and economics is more bullshit than even law.


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This is sweet, thanks.

That's basically what I thought--at lower levels you do shitwork, which is fine, and the higher up you get, the more it becomes a sales job where you have to pitch clients. I keep hearing about this "doc review", and I'm sure it's necessary in big firms as well. Is that something farmed out to young associates? I've heard one way they want to get rid of you is to saddle you to tons of doc review, is that true?

Definitely sounds better than working as a doctor (unless it's like one of those doctors in House who seem to just sit around in huge offices looking at paperwork all day)


Doc review is something young litigation associates do. The corporate equivalent is due diligence (circle ups are a type of due diligence). How much of this you do is overstated. Second and third years still do some, but at places like Cravath they're also running their own smaller deals. My perception is that corporate associates do less diligence than litigators do doc review and get more responsibility earlier. On the flip side, litigation is far more interesting for most people at the higher levels.

I think the sales analogy is pretty far off. A corporate lawyer is first and foremost and advisor. Your clients need to trust you to give them accurate advice when things go wrong. It's not like banking where it's all about aggressively pitching the next deal. Businessmen know their bankers will be optimistic to get the deal done, but that's okay because they can see the numbers themselves. When it comes to law they can't see things themselves. They depend on you to tell them not just the things that will make the deal go through, but especially the things that might kill it.

There is definitely a sales component, it's just more subtle. Business development in law is more about about cultivating relationships and establishing a reputation than about aggressive salesmanship.

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Postby Blessedassurance » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:28 pm

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Re: If I knew a smart, well-pedigreed kid who was considering LS

Postby freestallion » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:29 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
Curious1 wrote:And...you're applying to law school why? Where are you hoping to go?


Yale, where else?

Well, YHS to be exact.


Tell us where you end up. So we can all try and avoid that school ;)

ETA: Yeah, I have friends in med school and really... I hate science. I SUCKED at chemistry and physics even in high school. I don't think the advice that everyone should go to med school is really helpful or even practical. When I told my friends you'd have to study for 5-10 hours a day in law school, they laughed and said they study from morning to night with no break. One of my friends just did her surgical rotation and she literally has NO life, she hasn't gotten sleep in forever. And this is not even residency. I think you have to love medicine to do well in it, or to survive for that matter..

I also really disliked econ. I don't know 100% whether I'll enjoy law or not, but it seems like a better bet than science or ibanking which I know I'd hate.
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Postby Blessedassurance » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:32 pm

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Postby Blessedassurance » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:33 pm

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Re: If I knew a smart, well-pedigreed kid who was considering LS

Postby bport hopeful » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:45 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
bport hopeful wrote:Im also gunna leave you with this:

Everything you are doing, you are doing for tang. You may not know it, or realize it. But thats basically what life boils down to. And Im already on that shit, homie. Everything else Im doing is bonus.

Let me put it to you in a way your Whiskey drinking nerd ass can understand.

Think of me as Sonic; I already burnt past the flag, Im just trying to jump in the golden ring.

Have fun trying to get what Ive already achieved.


You're trying too hard dude. I'm going to just ignore you. You've outlived your entertainment value. You're getting all cryptic and shit, I think I hurt your feelings. Sorry.

The thing about me, dogg, is I dont have to try. Thats why everything else is just bonus.

You wanted to comment on my GPA, well, Im gunna tell you why it is what it is. I was living the good life. Still where I want to be.

You were onto something. Drinking and sex are two awesome things. Ive done a lot of each. Now Im onto the Golden Ring. Enjoy Yale mang. Ill be pounding while youre working 80 hour weeks.

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Postby Blessedassurance » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:48 pm

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Re: If I knew a smart, well-pedigreed kid who was considering LS

Postby bport hopeful » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:49 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
freestallion wrote:Etc etc...

I also really disliked econ. I don't know 100% whether I'll enjoy law or not, but it seems like a better bet than science or ibanking which I know I'd hate.


So you settled on Law School because you suck at everything else? That sounds about right.

Youre an insufferable twat. Hope real life works out better for you.

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Postby Blessedassurance » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:51 pm

bport hopeful wrote:You were onto something. Drinking and sex are two awesome things. Ive done a lot of each. Now Im onto the Golden Ring. Enjoy Yale mang. Ill be pounding while youre working 80 hour weeks.


I'm very happy for you. I wish you all the best.

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Re: If I knew a smart, well-pedigreed kid who was considering LS

Postby Blessedassurance » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:52 pm

bport hopeful wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:
freestallion wrote:Etc etc...

I also really disliked econ. I don't know 100% whether I'll enjoy law or not, but it seems like a better bet than science or ibanking which I know I'd hate.


So you settled on Law School because you suck at everything else? That sounds about right.

Youre an insufferable twat. Hope real life works out better for you.


Why so sensitive, bro?

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Postby Blessedassurance » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:06 pm

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Re: If I knew a smart, well-pedigreed kid who was considering LS

Postby soj » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:29 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
freestallion wrote: Tell us where you end up. So we can all try and avoid that school ;)


Also, and trust me on this, you wanna be where I'm at. It's people like mumofcad you should try to avoid. She's doubly insufferable, married, has kids and probably sleeps early. She also likes to lecture on morality and other crap to that effect and is in general, just fucking neurotic.

We should be bff's. Do you like skittles?

:roll:

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Re: If I knew a smart, well-pedigreed kid who was considering LS

Postby Kronk » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:53 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
Kronk wrote:lolol at spelling whisky with an E.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky


That's the point bro. Using the E spelling is prolish.




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