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How to count full-time employment experience?
I'm struggling with the question on several applications that asks me to enter "Full-time employment experience - Total number of months."
(How) do I count the following?
Half-time employment experience; i.e. a 20-hour per week paid graduate research assistantship? For example, if this is for nine months, should I count it as 4.5 months of full-time experience, or not count it at all?
Full-time unpaid internships? Say I worked full time for a non-profit for three months during the summer in college, paid not by the organization but by a grant from my school? Does this count at all?
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(How) do I count the following?
Half-time employment experience; i.e. a 20-hour per week paid graduate research assistantship? For example, if this is for nine months, should I count it as 4.5 months of full-time experience, or not count it at all?
Full-time unpaid internships? Say I worked full time for a non-profit for three months during the summer in college, paid not by the organization but by a grant from my school? Does this count at all?
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
You have no full-time employment experience. Internships and part-time work are generally not considered comparable to full time work experience.
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
Well, I do have about 30 months of full-time, paid employment experience on top of these things. Is the consensus that I should count only this experience, and nothing else?bdubs wrote:You have no full-time employment experience. Internships and part-time work are generally not considered comparable to full time work experience.
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
Does seasonal, yet full time during the season count as full time work experience?
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splbagel wrote:Well, I do have about 30 months of full-time, paid employment experience on top of these things. Is the consensus that I should count only this experience, and nothing else?bdubs wrote:You have no full-time employment experience. Internships and part-time work are generally not considered comparable to full time work experience.
I was curious about this too. Do you count the months leading up to law school if you are currently working?
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
I'm only counting the number of months up through the time of application. I plan to submit my applications in October, so September would be the last full month of employment I would count. Does that sound right?tennisking88 wrote:Do you count the months leading up to law school if you are currently working?
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There is no reason to even bother including your internships and part-time work if you have 30 months of standard full-time experience. I don't think schools care about anything more than 24 months unless it means you got some exceptional opportunities.splbagel wrote:Well, I do have about 30 months of full-time, paid employment experience on top of these things. Is the consensus that I should count only this experience, and nothing else?bdubs wrote:You have no full-time employment experience. Internships and part-time work are generally not considered comparable to full time work experience.
Most schools will explicitly state at matriculation, but if they don't you should use the number of months at the time of application.tennisking88 wrote:I was curious about this too. Do you count the months leading up to law school if you are currently working?
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Well, that's good news. I figure they'll see it all in my resume, anyway.bdubs wrote:There is no reason to even bother including your internships and part-time work if you have 30 months of standard full-time experience. I don't think schools care about anything more than 24 months unless it means you got some exceptional opportunities.
Speaking of which, do you really have to fill out the "employment" section of all of the applications? Would it be so terrible to just write "please see resume"?
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Yessplbagel wrote:Well, that's good news. I figure they'll see it all in my resume, anyway.bdubs wrote:There is no reason to even bother including your internships and part-time work if you have 30 months of standard full-time experience. I don't think schools care about anything more than 24 months unless it means you got some exceptional opportunities.
Speaking of which, do you really have to fill out the "employment" section of all of the applications? Would it be so terrible to just write "please see resume"?
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I would think so. Why not?Bobeo wrote:Does seasonal, yet full time during the season count as full time work experience?
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You should be able to copy and paste. If it's really that hard then you are applying to too many schools.splbagel wrote:Well, that's good news. I figure they'll see it all in my resume, anyway.bdubs wrote:There is no reason to even bother including your internships and part-time work if you have 30 months of standard full-time experience. I don't think schools care about anything more than 24 months unless it means you got some exceptional opportunities.
Speaking of which, do you really have to fill out the "employment" section of all of the applications? Would it be so terrible to just write "please see resume"?
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
For something like tax accounting or school teachers, the answer is yes. If you are talking about your summer as a lifeguard, then no.Bobeo wrote:Does seasonal, yet full time during the season count as full time work experience?
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
I thought the definition of full-time is that you are working say 40 hours per week.
Would a full-time internship count? I've been working at the same place as an intern for a few months now and will continue to do so into the next year, and I'm not sure if that counts as zero or as three or four.
Would a full-time internship count? I've been working at the same place as an intern for a few months now and will continue to do so into the next year, and I'm not sure if that counts as zero or as three or four.
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
Full-time means permanent employment, internships are generally not counted unless they are part of an industry where "interns" are a well defined position that leads directly to full-time paid employment (99% of internships don't fit in this category)icedflames wrote:I thought the definition of full-time is that you are working say 40 hours per week.
Would a full-time internship count? I've been working at the same place as an intern for a few months now and will continue to do so into the next year, and I'm not sure if that counts as zero or as three or four.
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
Ooh, not to hijack this thread, but I listed working several full-time jobs under "full-time employment" (when it asked for what length of time I had worked full-time) - is that ok? They were all part time on their own, but there were about 6 months that I was working 2-4 jobs simultaneously, so 40-50+ hrs/week...
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
I think internships count depending on what you're doing.
I'm doing a Senate Internship where I work 9-6 every day of the week, and you can bet your ass it deserves to be called full-time work experience.
I'm doing a Senate Internship where I work 9-6 every day of the week, and you can bet your ass it deserves to be called full-time work experience.
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I would think that would qualify, so long as you're not doing it at the same time you're classified as a full-time student.imjustjoking22 wrote:Ooh, not to hijack this thread, but I listed working several full-time jobs under "full-time employment" (when it asked for what length of time I had worked full-time) - is that ok? They were all part time on their own, but there were about 6 months that I was working 2-4 jobs simultaneously, so 40-50+ hrs/week...
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
Politics is one of the 1% where internships are a pretty regular form of employment because of the oddities of govt. budgets and political science students. Working as an intern during an externship semester or during the summer would probably not count though.coldshoulder wrote:I think internships count depending on what you're doing.
I'm doing a Senate Internship where I work 9-6 every day of the week, and you can bet your ass it deserves to be called full-time work experience.
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Nope, wasn't a student, and thanks!bdubs wrote:I would think that would qualify, so long as you're not doing it at the same time you're classified as a full-time student.imjustjoking22 wrote:Ooh, not to hijack this thread, but I listed working several full-time jobs under "full-time employment" (when it asked for what length of time I had worked full-time) - is that ok? They were all part time on their own, but there were about 6 months that I was working 2-4 jobs simultaneously, so 40-50+ hrs/week...
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
Ok, so if I worked as a camp counselor from 8am-5pm throughout the summer, this does NOT count as full-time employment? I feel like it technically is, but I'm not sure.
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
No, not full-time employment.iamgoingtolawschool wrote:Ok, so if I worked as a camp counselor from 8am-5pm throughout the summer, this does NOT count as full-time employment? I feel like it technically is, but I'm not sure.
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
bdubs wrote:
icedflames wrote:
I thought the definition of full-time is that you are working say 40 hours per week.
Would a full-time internship count? I've been working at the same place as an intern for a few months now and will continue to do so into the next year, and I'm not sure if that counts as zero or as three or four.
Full-time means permanent employment, internships are generally not counted unless they are part of an industry where "interns" are a well defined position that leads directly to full-time paid employment (99% of internships don't fit in this category)
If the applications wanted to know how many months you were at a permanent position, I feel like they would ask. Instead they ask for "full time employment" - A quick google search came up with this
"The Bureau of Labor Statistics defines a full-time employee as one who works 35 hours or more per week, but there are no labor laws that set a particular number of hours as determining full-time employment."
So you're telling us, that law schools expect applicants to understand "full time employment" to be as narrowly defined as you say?
icedflames wrote:
I thought the definition of full-time is that you are working say 40 hours per week.
Would a full-time internship count? I've been working at the same place as an intern for a few months now and will continue to do so into the next year, and I'm not sure if that counts as zero or as three or four.
Full-time means permanent employment, internships are generally not counted unless they are part of an industry where "interns" are a well defined position that leads directly to full-time paid employment (99% of internships don't fit in this category)
If the applications wanted to know how many months you were at a permanent position, I feel like they would ask. Instead they ask for "full time employment" - A quick google search came up with this
"The Bureau of Labor Statistics defines a full-time employee as one who works 35 hours or more per week, but there are no labor laws that set a particular number of hours as determining full-time employment."
So you're telling us, that law schools expect applicants to understand "full time employment" to be as narrowly defined as you say?
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
Is there a limit of employers you can put down? I'm trying to add my 11th but LSAC keeps saying there's a server error. It is driving me nuts.
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Re: How to count full-time employment experience?
Yes, they are trying to figure out how much real world experience you have outside of K-College. It would be unfair to use the strict BLS definition for people who legitimately worked in non-permanent positions, but were supporting themselves as independent non-students.nucky thompson wrote: If the applications wanted to know how many months you were at a permanent position, I feel like they would ask. Instead they ask for "full time employment" - A quick google search came up with this
"The Bureau of Labor Statistics defines a full-time employee as one who works 35 hours or more per week, but there are no labor laws that set a particular number of hours as determining full-time employment."
So you're telling us, that law schools expect applicants to understand "full time employment" to be as narrowly defined as you say?
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God I hope youre old if your putting down more then 11 employers. Christiamgoingtolawschool wrote:Is there a limit of employers you can put down? I'm trying to add my 11th but LSAC keeps saying there's a server error. It is driving me nuts.
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