U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby sparty99 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:12 am

I recuse myself from any future posts regarding this topic. I go to a rival school and could personally not give a rats a$$ about Illinois and look forward to seeing their rankings drop, considerably.

Now I have to go read cases, ya'll ruined my studying.

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby bjsesq » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:13 am

sparty99 wrote:I recuse myself from any future posts regarding this topic. I go to a rival school and could personally not give a rats a$$ about Illinois and look forward to seeing their rankings drop, considerably.

Now I have to go read cases, ya'll ruined my studying.


This is the most bizarre dicktuck I have witnessed in a long time. It fails on so many levels.

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby adammac17 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:15 am

bjsesq wrote:
sparty99 wrote:I recuse myself from any future posts regarding this topic. I go to a rival school and could personally not give a rats a$$ about Illinois and look forward to seeing their rankings drop, considerably.

Now I have to go read cases, ya'll ruined my studying.


This is the most bizarre dicktuck I have witnessed in a long time. It fails on so many levels.


Hey, as a 1L i love his post - lets just all forget about this and go back to the statues quo 1 year ago. kthxbye

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby tttlllsss » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:17 am

sparty99 wrote: Look at the rankings the past 10 years. The schools in the top 30 are roughly the same.....Will students not apply to U of I this year? I could see that. Will applicants care about this scandal three years from now?


Yes, but this is the greatest scandal to ever affect what people would consider to be a "top" law school (as far as I'm aware of). This is the only T30 to be disgraced in such a way.

So, I'm saying we could see a drop- the likes of which we've never seen before for a top law school. Someone said we could see a 20-spot drop, and that wouldn't surprise me, given the magnitude of the situation. But I would expect something more along the lines of a 10 or 15-spot drop.
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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby bjsesq » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:18 am

adammac17 wrote:
bjsesq wrote:
sparty99 wrote:I recuse myself from any future posts regarding this topic. I go to a rival school and could personally not give a rats a$$ about Illinois and look forward to seeing their rankings drop, considerably.

Now I have to go read cases, ya'll ruined my studying.


This is the most bizarre dicktuck I have witnessed in a long time. It fails on so many levels.


Hey, as a 1L i love his post - lets just all forget about this and go back to the statues quo 1 year ago. kthxbye


I appreciate the sentiment. I wouldn't be worried, though. I seriously doubt Michigan State and Illinois are going to be peer law schools any time in the near future.

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby sparty99 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:21 am

bjsesq wrote:
adammac17 wrote:
bjsesq wrote:
sparty99 wrote:I recuse myself from any future posts regarding this topic. I go to a rival school and could personally not give a rats a$$ about Illinois and look forward to seeing their rankings drop, considerably.

Now I have to go read cases, ya'll ruined my studying.


This is the most bizarre dicktuck I have witnessed in a long time. It fails on so many levels.


Hey, as a 1L i love his post - lets just all forget about this and go back to the statues quo 1 year ago. kthxbye


I appreciate the sentiment. I wouldn't be worried, though. I seriously doubt Michigan State and Illinois are going to be peer law schools any time in the near future.


Please don't confuse my undergrad program with my law school program. Thank you and good bye.

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby chrisbru » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:50 am

sparty99 wrote:Please don't confuse my undergrad program with my law school program. Thank you and good bye.



You sir, bring the lulz, albeit unintentionally. Thank you.

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby Holly Golightly » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:57 am

bjsesq wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:
sparty99 wrote: Did McKinsey ask about the riots when they saw my resume? No, sure didn't.

Extremely subtle brag, but what have been more effective had you mentioned a job offer from them.


Confused by your concept of subtle.

Doesn't bls go to U of C now?

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby Holly Golightly » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:04 am

sparty99 wrote:There are TOO MANY people on this board who tell people with my LSAT score to not even consider law school. I was told a Top 80 was not possible. I was told I would be looking at full-tuition at a tier III. I had many rejections, but all it took was one school to look past the LSAT. Now I am staring at a top tier law school and an almost full tuition scholarship. There was also other programs that offered me scholarships. Yes, I am AA Male, but I also have work experience, performance reviews, and did not stand by. I knew my LSAT score was weak, so I made damn sure the admissions committee knew I was interested in their programs. I spoke one-one-one with the Admissions Directors. Did this work at every school? NO. But for some of the schools that offered scholarships, I would certainly like to think me showing up in a suit and asking intelligent questions worked in my favor....


http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=140660

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Postby PDaddy » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:13 am

NancyBotwin wrote:
PDaddy wrote:Last year's obviously false data

Considering that most of the people I know in my class did, in fact, score above a 167 (myself included) ... yeah, it's obviously false. :roll:



Care to revise your unsupported, desperate, self-serving argument? I feel your pain, but you have to face reality...you are at the Cooley of top schools now...but it's still a top school.

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:15 am

PDaddy wrote:
NancyBotwin wrote:
PDaddy wrote:Last year's obviously false data

Considering that most of the people I know in my class did, in fact, score above a 167 (myself included) ... yeah, it's obviously false. :roll:



Care to revise your unsupported, desperate, self-serving argument? I feel your pain, but you have to face reality...you are at the Cooley of top schools now...but it's still a top school.

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About par for a Pdaddy post IMO.

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby ilovesf » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:18 am

PDaddy wrote:
NancyBotwin wrote:
PDaddy wrote:Last year's obviously false data

Considering that most of the people I know in my class did, in fact, score above a 167 (myself included) ... yeah, it's obviously false. :roll:



Care to revise your unsupported, desperate, self-serving argument? I feel your pain, but you have to face reality...you are at the Cooley of top schools now...but it's still a top school.

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Why are you such an asshole?

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby Chupavida » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:18 am

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby PDaddy » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:28 am

stratocophic wrote:
Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:Also, Let's not forget that it is in fact still PDaddy posting the posts that PDaddy posts.
Thank you. I was wondering if I was taking crazy pills or if he had suddenly become an upstanding member of the TLS community and I had somehow missed it.


Dislike me all you want to. You act as though it actually matters outside of your own minds, and your disdain, contempt, or whatever you want to call it won't change the fact that I am 100% correct about Illinois as well as the other schools.

http://wtop.com/?sid=2568071&nid=209

I called it from the very beginning: UIUC had been doing this for years. I think all of the schools have been fudging to some degree, even HYS.

I have no proof of this except for the trickle-down (or bottom-up) effect that often permeates a competitive market.

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby Chupavida » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:30 am

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby PDaddy » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:32 am

Chupavida wrote:
Edit: bringing Cooley in here is the TLS equivalent of Godwinning the thread. Things are bad, but they're not "UIUC has lots of library books" bad.


Yeah...that was a little bit extreme (a little!), but I DID say Cooley of top schools. Data problems or none, UIUC is still one of the best schools, with one of the best faculties, best student bodies, and best program sets in the country.

I actually take no pleasure in this, and find it a bit sad. What I DO take pleasure in is being correct. i also thoroughly enjoy hypocrites getting busted. How quickly would UIUC have expelled any one of us for fudging our work histories or other information - even though it would have had no effect on the school's reputation or standings? Shouldn't UIUC and Villanova suffer the same fate at the hands of the ABA and lose their accreditation for two years for reporting false data? Shouldn't some more heads roll?
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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:36 am

:( Depressed that sparty99 and his endless supply of herpderpitude signed off --> PDaddy signs on :D

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby Chupavida » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:36 am

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:39 am

PDaddy wrote:
NancyBotwin wrote:
PDaddy wrote:Last year's obviously false data

Considering that most of the people I know in my class did, in fact, score above a 167 (myself included) ... yeah, it's obviously false. :roll:



Care to revise your unsupported, desperate, self-serving argument? I feel your pain, but you have to face reality...you are at the Cooley of top schools now...but it's still a top school.

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Damn, dude. She was all "the median is 167" and you were all "oh no it's not!" and then the stuff came out showing the median actually was 167 and you were like, "LOL told you so, damn I'm good, I TOLD ALL OF YOU, I AM GOD."

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby PDaddy » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:41 am

That's right! I was still right about the other years... :wink:

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:42 am

PDaddy wrote:That's right! I was still right about the other years... :wink:


haha yeah dude right on

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby PDaddy » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:43 am

Chupavida wrote:
PDaddy wrote:Yeah...that was a little bit extreme (a little!), but I DID say Cooley of top schools. Data problems or none, UIUC is still one of the best schools, with one of the best faculties, best student bodies, and best program sets in the country.

Backing down like this makes me think you're not really trolling.


...never been a troll. I like to yank the chains..rattle the cages...I'm Batman. :lol:

Shit...pizza!

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:56 am

PDaddy wrote: i also thoroughly enjoy hypocrites getting busted.

Definitions. Do you know them?

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby Yukos » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:03 am

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:
PDaddy wrote: i also thoroughly enjoy hypocrites getting busted.

Definitions. Do you know them?


I'm pretty sure an administrator who is inventing LSAT medians but who would immediately expel any student who made up their LSAT score qualifies as a hypocrite.

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Re: U. of Illinois Law suspends Dean of Admissions

Postby MumofCad » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:11 am

I've avoided posting in this thread like the plague until the full story came out.

I don't know enough about legal hiring or the Chicago market or UNSWR rankings to really recommend a punishment/pontificate about what the future will hold for Illinois students. However, I think it is clear from this thread that the vast majority of those who do can easily separate the guiltless student body from the culpable school. It seems that most (maybe all) agree that the school should pay its due, but in a way that doesn't hurt the student body. One can only hope that employers will take the same stand on the issue. They are hopefully not too removed from the law school experience to understand the position this places the students in. The numbers are not hugely fudged except for this incoming class, which would have found themselves in a less desirable position even without the incorrect reporting given the fact that it was clearly just a bad recruiting year.

Could the ABA possibly not allow them to take in a class for a year, following the already admitted students? Seems like that would punish them financially and hinder their employment prospects without punishing the current students, who are really victims of the scandal. Maybe hiring then would even bump a little for them since they would be the last Illinois class for a year or two for alum to rally around at their firms?




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