Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby lawgod » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:38 pm

afitouri wrote:Conservative media brainwashes conservative idiots into thinking that all liberals have it out for them and disagree with them.

The reality is that educated people don't get their news from cable news networks and educated people have much more thoroughly informed opinions than the garbage they spit out on FOX news and MSNBC.

Nobody cares what your political standpoints are man. They only care if you're an idiot. And if you eat up the mass media garbage, whether you're conservative or liberal, they'll spot you as an idiot and *maybe* that will affect your acceptance. But even then, doubtfully.

Just get a high GPA and LSAT.


This part.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby Klinklang » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:54 pm

acrossthelake wrote:LOL. You're incredibly naive if you think that one ideology is uniquely hostile of the other side. Many liberals are hostile to conservatives and many conservatives are hostile to liberals. Some liberals think conservatives are bigots while some conservatives think that liberals are morally corrupt, etc. I think both sides tend to stereotype the other and draw unfair conclusions.
So very much this.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby WhoIsDonDraper » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:01 pm

afitouri wrote:Conservative media brainwashes conservative idiots into thinking that all liberals have it out for them and disagree with them.

The reality is that educated people don't get their news from cable news networks and educated people have much more thoroughly informed opinions than the garbage they spit out on FOX news and MSNBC.

Nobody cares what your political standpoints are man. They only care if you're an idiot. And if you eat up the mass media garbage, whether you're conservative or liberal, they'll spot you as an idiot and *maybe* that will affect your acceptance. But even then, doubtfully.

Just get a high GPA and LSAT.


+1

There are plenty of smart/reasonable liberals and conservatives-NONE of them watch cable news.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby NZA » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:08 pm

Real Madrid wrote:
NZA wrote:
RaleighStClair wrote:
NZA wrote:I just wanted to post in response to what is certainly the worst question yet asked on this forum.

I mean really? Really? This is a serious question?


Can you elaborate?

Nope.


You seem like a very miserable person based on pretty much all of your posts. I'm sorry.

Lol me? :lol: Awesome.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby dkt4 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:53 pm

yeah, you with the rainier avatar. you seem like you suck.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby sundance95 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:00 pm

This thread is awesome. /s

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby lawgod » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:02 pm

sundance95 wrote:This thread is awesome. /s


I've seen better.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby sundance95 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:13 pm

lawgod wrote:
sundance95 wrote:This thread is awesome. /s


I've seen better.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby TaipeiMort » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:29 pm

Every super conservative or liberal school likes to have their token members of the opposite political spectrum.

Look at Berkeley with Jon Yoo.

Look at UChicago with Martha Nussbaum and Bernard Harcourt.

Look at BYU-- their most recent dean is now in Obama's cabinet.

Look at NYU-- They just took Richard Epstein away from UChicago.

I think law school adcomms actually like ideological diversity in their classes. What they don't like are preachy weird people that they feel will harm the harmonious and good vibes of a pretty stressed out and fragile group of 1L students. Their bias is against pretentious, uncompromising, ideologues from both sides of the spectrum. They might view you more clearly as this if you are from the other side of the political spectrum, so maybe their is some bias against whichever group of pretentious ideologues less adcomms are members of.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby Veyron » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:32 pm

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby RaleighStClair » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:33 pm

Haha. I love Rainier beer though, gotta represent the PNW.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby NZA » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:41 pm

RaleighStClair wrote:Haha. I love Rainier beer though, gotta represent the PNW.

Ohhhh...see, now I feel like you're actually not that bad of a guy. :lol:

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby mblueyahoo! » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:45 pm

kdw94780 wrote:I've wondered about the same thing. I think if you were a liberal applying to a conservative school, it would not make a difference. But IMO, a lot of liberals are super hostile to conservatives. I mean we're "terrorists" or "bigots" if we disagree with any of their ideas. However, if you're friend from HLS says it can help, then why not.


Well played but you don't fool me.

OP: Your conservative position will only hurt you if you're a dick about it and the same goes with any liberal who wants to write a PS that requires a discussion of a politically charged topic. So, don't write a lengthy diatribe about how Obama is a raging foreigner socialist/fascist anti-christ and how sovereign debt is somehow a fault of liberals, and those damn liberals should probably not talk at length about Iraq War conspiracy theories and how Dick Cheney is the real anti-christ. Those are caricatures, but you get the point. Use common sense and you'll have success.

Also, unless you have something spectacular on your resume, it seems the only purpose they serve in the admissions process is to make sure you have the ability to scribble down something credible and maybe show that you've done something--especially if you're K-JD.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby RaleighStClair » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:50 pm

mblueyahoo! wrote:
Also, unless you have something spectacular on your resume, it seems the only purpose they serve in the admissions process is to make sure you have the ability to scribble down something credible and maybe show that you've done something--especially if you're K-JD.


You're saying the resume's only purpose is this, or personal statement? And what is K-JD?

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby mblueyahoo! » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:54 pm

RaleighStClair wrote:
mblueyahoo! wrote:
Also, unless you have something spectacular on your resume, it seems the only purpose they serve in the admissions process is to make sure you have the ability to scribble down something credible and maybe show that you've done something--especially if you're K-JD.


You're saying the resume's only purpose is this, or personal statement? And what is K-JD?


Sorry if I wasn't clear: I meant your resume. Your personal statement seems to matter a bit more because it shows your writing ability to some extent. Others might have differing opinions on the matter, but I know for sure that my resume didn't get me into Michigan.

K-JD=straight from undergrad, usually no substantive work experience.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby TIKITEMBO » Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:22 am

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby paulinaporizkova » Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:24 am

NZA wrote:
RaleighStClair wrote:Haha. I love Rainier beer though, gotta represent the PNW.

Ohhhh...see, now I feel like you're actually not that bad of a guy. :lol:

sellout

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby paulinaporizkova » Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:25 am

NZA wrote:
Real Madrid wrote:
You seem like a very miserable person based on pretty much all of your posts. I'm sorry.

Lol me? :lol: Awesome.

LOLLLLLLLL

TIL Real Madrid is a miserable judge of character

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby Blessedassurance » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:36 am

Patriot1208 wrote:
Blessedassurance wrote:You should apply to Regent University. It was founded by Pat Robertson, it doesn't get any better than this.

Here's the kicker: When Oral Roberts University shut down it's law school in 1986, it sent its library to what eventually became Regent University. Guess who went to Oral Roberts for Law School? Michele Bachmann.

What's an oral roberts?


Store-brand contraceptive.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby hooma » Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:40 pm

RaleighStClair wrote:
shoeshine wrote:I personally don't think there is a big bias either way. However, when I sat in at a Q and A session with the admissions dean at my school (a T-14), he made reference to the fact that they do try "balance" the diversity and ideologies of the entering class. So maybe they are trying to even out the conservative and liberal students?


This makes me happy.


kilgoretrout66 wrote:I'm pretty sure I read somewhere in the Yale admission blog (alas, too lazy to find the link), where Dean Asha asks self-identified conservatives to apply - ideological diversity accounts for something too, apparently... Then again, not every law school has produced Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, so who knows whether this is something unique to Yale or not.

Your political beliefs could definitely help you, so long as they're presented in a way that wouldn't alienate liberal adcoms. As a raging liberal who wants to "save the planet," conversely, I think it'll be harder for me to stand out.


Does anyone else think it's ironic that conservatives may benefit from a sort-of affirmative action in the law school admissions process?

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby Moomoo2u » Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:51 pm

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby Moomoo2u » Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:52 pm

paulinaporizkova wrote:
NZA wrote:
Real Madrid wrote:
You seem like a very miserable person based on pretty much all of your posts. I'm sorry.

Lol me? :lol: Awesome.

LOLLLLLLLL

TIL Real Madrid is a miserable judge of character



also a bad football team

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby dresden doll » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:01 pm

kdw94780 wrote:I've wondered about the same thing. I think if you were a liberal applying to a conservative school, it would not make a difference. But IMO, a lot of liberals are super hostile to conservatives. I mean we're "terrorists" or "bigots" if we disagree with any of their ideas. However, if you're friend from HLS says it can help, then why not.


You poor thing. You must have suffered greatly.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby TaipeiMort » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:36 pm

hooma wrote:
RaleighStClair wrote:
shoeshine wrote:I personally don't think there is a big bias either way. However, when I sat in at a Q and A session with the admissions dean at my school (a T-14), he made reference to the fact that they do try "balance" the diversity and ideologies of the entering class. So maybe they are trying to even out the conservative and liberal students?


This makes me happy.


kilgoretrout66 wrote:I'm pretty sure I read somewhere in the Yale admission blog (alas, too lazy to find the link), where Dean Asha asks self-identified conservatives to apply - ideological diversity accounts for something too, apparently... Then again, not every law school has produced Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, so who knows whether this is something unique to Yale or not.

Your political beliefs could definitely help you, so long as they're presented in a way that wouldn't alienate liberal adcoms. As a raging liberal who wants to "save the planet," conversely, I think it'll be harder for me to stand out.


Does anyone else think it's ironic that conservatives may benefit from a sort-of affirmative action in the law school admissions process?


I don't think this is true. Schools may seek to balance ideologies, but I believe this is only a soft plus when numbers are already reached. There are also schools (Stanford) where conservative white males have a much more difficult time applying because of the relatively high number that already self-select there.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Postby dkt4 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:58 am

way to talk out of ur ass




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