ITT: New School Medians Revealed

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby minnbills » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:58 pm

avemundi wrote:just a tiny bump - any more news?


Anyone have BU/BC/UMN's numbers?

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby Ernert » Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:21 pm

Iowa Law School (from website)

3.64 median GPA (up .03)
161 median LSAT (no change)

http://www.law.uiowa.edu/about/intro.php

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby disco_stu » Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:03 pm

Seriously, nothing from WUSTL / Cornell? Hasn't it been two weeks since the start of their orientations? Now I'm hoping their numbers stayed flat or dropped...

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby Kabuo » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:34 pm

disco_stu wrote:Seriously, nothing from WUSTL / Cornell? Hasn't it been two weeks since the start of their orientations? Now I'm hoping their numbers stayed flat or dropped...


Really not sure what's going on with WUSTL. I still will be surprised if we didn't hit 168 based on that LSN graph, but I also thought the school would be wanting to brag about it as soon as the class was finalized.

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby Trequartista » Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:53 am

I emailed Cornell about two weeks ago. They said the medians would be up on the website by the end of August. Still nothing though.

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby Kabuo » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:56 am

Trequartista wrote:I emailed Cornell about two weeks ago. They said the medians would be up on the website by the end of August. Still nothing though.


Cornell's behind schedule? :shock:

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby Robespierre » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:22 am

Sheehan wrote:Iowa Law School (from website)

3.64 median GPA (up .03)
161 median LSAT (no change)

http://www.law.uiowa.edu/about/intro.php


Shrunk the class?

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby KevinP » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:19 am

Robespierre wrote:
Sheehan wrote:Iowa Law School (from website)

3.64 median GPA (up .03)
161 median LSAT (no change)

http://www.law.uiowa.edu/about/intro.php


Shrunk the class?


Yeah, the class size shrunk from 203 to 180. Also, the GPA is up .05 and not .03. Previous GPA: 3.59, New GPA: 3.64. I'm guessing some schools are thinking the drop in cash due to enrollment is preferable over a drop in medians.

http://www.law.uiowa.edu/about/intro.php
http://web.archive.org/web/201107121424 ... /intro.php

ETA: After reading some of the articles about the national drop in law school enrollment, I just realized some schools might offset the drop in enrollment by increasing tuition. If a substantial increase in tuition occurs, I'll definitely be much more inclined to say screw it to law school.

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby minnbills » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:50 am

KevinP wrote:ETA: After reading some of the articles about the national drop in law school enrollment, I just realized some schools might offset the drop in enrollment by increasing tuition. If a substantial increase in tuition occurs, I'll definitely be much more inclined to say screw it to law school.


That's interesting. UMN increased tuition by 6000, and haven't released their medians or class size yet. I do know that the university as a whole has terrible budget problems though.

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby NYC Law » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:52 am

minnbills wrote:
KevinP wrote:ETA: After reading some of the articles about the national drop in law school enrollment, I just realized some schools might offset the drop in enrollment by increasing tuition. If a substantial increase in tuition occurs, I'll definitely be much more inclined to say screw it to law school.


That's interesting. UMN increased tuition by 6000, and haven't released their medians or class size yet. I do know that the university state as a whole has terrible budget problems though.


ftfy

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby minnbills » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:57 am

NYC Law wrote:ftfy


The state is fine, they just pass on the problems to the University System and K12 eductation every time there is a shortfall.

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby Robespierre » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:04 pm

Sound the trumpet! Bang the drum! The new medians are out for that law school beloved of all TLSers ... NYLS!

2011 medians: 154/3.25. That's -1 on the LSAT, -.05 on GPA.

And the class shrank (I kid you not) from 641 to 486. The cuts were predominantly in the day program, not the evening.

--LinkRemoved--

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby NYC Law » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:14 pm

Robespierre wrote:Sound the trumpet! Bang the drum! The new medians are out for that law school beloved of all TLSers ... NYLS!

2011 medians: 154/3.25. That's -1 on the LSAT, -.05 on GPA.

And the class shrank (I kid you not) from 641 to 486. The cuts were predominantly in the day program, not the evening.

--LinkRemoved--



Awesome. Shrinking class sizes, pending law suits, a plethora of info on the web anytime you do so much as a google search regarding one of the schools, fewer applicants... Can this finally be the beginning of the end for TTTTs?

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby KevinP » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:21 pm

Robespierre wrote:Sound the trumpet! Bang the drum! The new medians are out for that law school beloved of all TLSers ... NYLS!

2011 medians: 154/3.25. That's -1 on the LSAT, -.05 on GPA.

And the class shrank (I kid you not) from 641 to 486. The cuts were predominantly in the day program, not the evening.

--LinkRemoved--


Awesome news. Considering each student pays about 45k per year in tuition and they lost 155 students, that's almost 7 million per year, or almost 21 million for the entire 3 years.

Now I'm eagerly awaiting Cooley's numbers. Will Cooley finally reach a 100% acceptance rate? Will Cooley finally be the first law school with a sub-140 LSAT median? Will Cooley finally reach number 1 in its own rankings?

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby Robespierre » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:18 pm

Sorry if this has been posted already ...

American U per website: 162/3.45. That's -1 on LSAT, +.05 on GPA. Class was shrunk from 502 to 475, with all the cuts in the day program (evening actually grew).

http://www.wcl.american.edu/admiss/profile.cfm

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby jlee282 » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:20 pm

does anyone know emory's new median? I called the school to ask, but they said it won't be "officially" released till next month.. (strange considering they already have their app out in the game)

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby Strange » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:40 pm

I just called Fordham and they said 166, and the website is not up to date

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby avemundi » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:51 pm

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby minnbills » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:55 pm

avemundi wrote:means I'm screwed for ED?


Not necessarily, you're non-trad and at least 25% of the class is 166 or less.

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby avemundi » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:08 pm

minnbills wrote:
avemundi wrote:means I'm screwed for ED?


Not necessarily, you're non-trad and at least 25% of the class is 166 or less.


i hope you're right - this news has made me super-jittery and panicky

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby minnbills » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:14 pm

avemundi wrote:
minnbills wrote:
avemundi wrote:means I'm screwed for ED?


Not necessarily, you're non-trad and at least 25% of the class is 166 or less.


i hope you're right - this news has made me super-jittery and panicky


Just craft as strong an application as you can- that's all any of us can do at the end of the day.

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby law4vus » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:20 pm

Just found out today from one of my profs that GW's medians are 167 (same as last yr) and 3.82 (0.03 up from last year's 3.79).

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby Chief Littlebighead » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:47 pm

Temple Law (per their website)
Entering 2011 class
#s in parenthesis were last year's figures

GPA
25th: 3.16 (3.2)
Median: 3.39 (3.44)
75th: 3.56 (3.6)

LSAT
25th: 158 (159)
Median: 160 (161)
75th: 163 (164)

Source: http://www.law.temple.edu/Pages/Prospec ... _Clas.aspx

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby Strange » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:55 pm

I just called Cornell and they said incoming 2011 medians are

168 (no change)
3.66 (3.70)

you can call to confirm if you want

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Re: ITT: New School Medians Revealed

Postby KevinP » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:57 pm

Chief Littlebighead wrote:Temple Law (per their website)
Entering 2011 class
#s in parenthesis were last year's figures

GPA
25th: 3.16 (3.2)
Median: 3.39 (3.44)
75th: 3.56 (3.6)

LSAT
25th: 158 (159)
Median: 160 (161)
75th: 163 (164)
Source: http://www.law.temple.edu/Pages/Prospec ... _Clas.aspx


Interesting, and that's with a drop of 56 in enrollment. That's slightly more than a 17% decrease in first-year class size and they were still unable to maintain their medians.

2011:
Applications received: 4,144
Enrolled class: 270
Day Division: 220
Evening Division: 50

2010:
Applications received: 4,682
Enrolled class: 326
Day Division: 274
Evening Division: 52




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