In need of serious law school advice

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Kilpatrick
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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby Kilpatrick » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:31 pm

LegalMan wrote:Why do you guys automatically assume I won't be making good money/struggling after graduation?


Because that's the most likely scenario. If you don't understand why then you are going into law school completely blind. Take the year off and research what you're getting yourself into.

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby LegalMan » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:36 pm

Kilpatrick wrote:
LegalMan wrote:Why do you guys automatically assume I won't be making good money/struggling after graduation?


Because that's the most likely scenario. If you don't understand why then you are going into law school completely blind. Take the year off and research what you're getting yourself into.


What do you need to do to be successful in law school?

Do you need to go to certain school?

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby bardreams » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:37 pm

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There's your answer right there.

Only 7% of Creighton grads made more than 75K after graduating.

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby firecracker10 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:37 pm

Open up your eyes...going to a T-3 is a bad idea...

READ THIS ARTICLE...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 04638.html

LegalMan wrote:Why do you guys automatically assume I won't be making good money/struggling after graduation?

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby firecracker10 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:38 pm

The T-20--period.

P.S. You can tell that you are 23 and extremely naive...you think law school is a guaranteed guide to prestige and success...I'll tell you what, go to law school and graduate 3 years from now...then I guarantee that you will be kicking yourself in the ass when you are 33 and broke and having bill collectors coming after you because you can't afford to pay for bills or student loans on some crappy salary you received coming out of a Tier-3 school.

LegalMan wrote:
Kilpatrick wrote:
LegalMan wrote:Why do you guys automatically assume I won't be making good money/struggling after graduation?


Because that's the most likely scenario. If you don't understand why then you are going into law school completely blind. Take the year off and research what you're getting yourself into.


What do you need to do to be successful in law school?

Do you need to go to certain school?
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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby BackToTheOldHouse » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:38 pm

Flame.

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby firecracker10 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:43 pm

Yeah it probably is a flame.

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby NYC Law » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:46 pm

firecracker10 wrote:The T-20--period.


Because BU/BC/Fordham are unthinkable compared to WUSTL or Minnesota

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby LegalMan » Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:49 pm

How am I a flame?

Everything I posted is 110% the truth. Don't know why anyone would think otherwise......

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby firecracker10 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:56 pm

Because no one in there right mind would go to a Tier-3 school last minute (with very uncertain long-term employment prospects) and also walk away from what you are currently making. It just doesn't make sense.

I think that you are better off investing in an MBA than a law degree.

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby LegalMan » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:37 pm

Well it's offcial....

I just let the folks over at Creighton know that I will not be joining them in Omaha this fall.


I feel kind of like a pu$$y, but it is what it is.....

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby Pizon » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:50 pm

LegalMan wrote:
TommyK wrote:Wait a year. Retake the LSAT if you want. If you really want to go to Law School still, re-apply.


At 24, won't I be too old?


Not at all. I started law school at 26. There are people in their 30s and 40s in my class.

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby NYC Law » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:55 pm

LegalMan wrote:Well it's offcial....

I just let the folks over at Creighton know that I will not be joining them in Omaha this fall.


I feel kind of like a pu$$y, but it is what it is.....


You made the right choice.... Just start studying and try a retake and save some $$$.

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby loblaw » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:15 pm

LegalMan wrote:Well it's offcial....

I just let the folks over at Creighton know that I will not be joining them in Omaha this fall.


I feel kind of like a pu$$y, but it is what it is.....


I'm starting at 25--the average age of my class. Thank god you made the right choice. The internet people are so right on this one. So, so right.

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby CanadianWolf » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:25 pm

In my opinion, you made a wise choice. Interview with Frito Lay & Coca Cola and/or stay at your current job to get more work experience, maturity & time to retake the LSAT. Good luck !

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby MrAnon » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:27 pm

Your job prospects are way ahead of whatever they will be coming out of any school except Harvard Yale or Stanford over the next 20 years. DO NOT GO TO LAW SCHOOL.

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby firecracker10 » Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:28 pm

+10 million

MrAnon wrote:Your job prospects are way ahead of whatever they will be coming out of any school except Harvard Yale or Stanford over the next 20 years. DO NOT GO TO LAW SCHOOL.

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby ihhwap1 » Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:33 pm

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby TommyK » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:57 pm

firecracker10 wrote:+10 million

MrAnon wrote:Your job prospects are way ahead of whatever they will be coming out of any school except Harvard Yale or Stanford over the next 20 years. DO NOT GO TO LAW SCHOOL.



:roll:

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby Cory045 » Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:22 am

Good choice. If I were you I would stay single and save as much money as possible over the next three years; continue to study for the lsat and try to improve. If, in three years, you still want to go to law school and not happy with your job then you will be going with more career experience, a higher lsat, and money in the bank to avoid high student loans. If you don't want to go to law school after those years, then the money you saved up can be used as a down payment on a house or a nice start for a retirement fund or whatever you want it to be.

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby Br3v » Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:28 am

TommyK wrote:Wait a year. Retake the LSAT if you want. If you really want to go to Law School still, re-apply.


Didn't read all posts but this is really good advice imho

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby LegalMan » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:41 am

Well...

My deferral request at Creighton just got denied....

Not a shocker, but kind of disappointed. You still think I made a wise choice?

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby NYC Law » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:42 am

LegalMan wrote:Well...

My deferral request at Creighton just got denied....

Not a shocker, but kind of disappointed. You still think I made a wise choice?


Yes.

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby rinkrat19 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:50 am

LegalMan wrote:Well...

My deferral request at Creighton just got denied....

Not a shocker, but kind of disappointed. You still think I made a wise choice?
How many times do you need to be told that Creighton is a terrible idea and you are fortunate to have a much better option? I could just copy/paste "yes, you made the right choice not to go" that many times.

The ONLY way to justify going to Creighton would be if A)it were totally free AND B)you had a 110% guaranteed legal job already lined up for after graduation, making more than you're likely to make at Coke/Frito Lay. You have about a 22% chance of making enough to even live on (>$50k) with a JD from Creighton, and paying off any significant loan debt on $50k/year would be rough. Those are shitty odds.

Your GPA is bad, but it's not what is holding you back. I have personally met a guy who is going to a T14 with a GPA worse than yours because his LSAT was spectacular. Giving up this spot at Creighton is not giving up on law school, it's just wisely letting a terrible "opportunity" (similar to emailing that nice Nigerian prince your bank account numbers) pass you by.

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Re: In need of serious law school advice

Postby Miznitic » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:59 am

LegalMan wrote:Why do you guys automatically assume I won't be making good money/struggling after graduation?


T3 Bias, and deservedly so. T4/T3 starting incomes are significantly lower than what you're currently making. If you can, get into a T2 minimum.

Shitlaw is not where it is at.




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