CLS info session
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:25 pm
IS anyone attending the info session tomorrow?
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I am! I'll be the girl wearing white pantsconfusedlaw wrote:IS anyone attending the info session tomorrow?
I'm probably on the wrong side of the bubble too (and I'll be ED'ing to NYU), but it's definitely worth a few hours that would otherwise be spent sleeping and playing NCAA 12 just to network and potentially get some useful information on the admissions process. Can't possibly hurt. Plus, I sprained my foot and I'll be working with a limp, so maybe I'll get the "George Costanza bump."confusedlaw wrote:haha yea i mean my numbers arent anywhere close to being good enough to get in, but after getting the email and living 30 mins away, it was worth taking off work and stopping by lol
WTF?? What do you mean by "them"? Your potential classmates who don't have the same skin color as you?PSUdevon wrote:Didn't really learn much that I didn't know, though I thought there would've been something distinguishing it from NYU, numerically. They're almost identical. And it pretty much made my decision of ED'ing to NYU a lock, since Morningside Heights was pretty boring (though I did have some delicious Mexican for lunch) and all else is pretty much equal. I was actually amazed by how many URM's were at the info session today. Had to be at least a third. If that's the makeup of the student body, it's tough to call them under-represented.
You're fucking with me, right? URM stands for "Under-represented minority," of which African Americans qualify. Given how many students at the info session were black, it's hard to argue that they were under-represented at the info session yesterday. Therefore, URM seemed to be a misnomer.sunynp wrote:WTF?? What do you mean by "them"? Your potential classmates who don't have the same skin color as you?PSUdevon wrote:Didn't really learn much that I didn't know, though I thought there would've been something distinguishing it from NYU, numerically. They're almost identical. And it pretty much made my decision of ED'ing to NYU a lock, since Morningside Heights was pretty boring (though I did have some delicious Mexican for lunch) and all else is pretty much equal. I was actually amazed by how many URM's were at the info session today. Had to be at least a third. If that's the makeup of the student body, it's tough to call them under-represented.
No, what is hard to believe is how you view your potential classmates based on race. Where are you from that you find it so unlikely that "black" people would be at orientation? Have you spent much time in NYC? And, URM for law school admissions is defined by law not how many people show up at orientationPSUdevon wrote:You're fucking with me, right? URM stands for "Under-represented minority," of which African Americans qualify. Given how many students at the info session were black, it's hard to argue that they were under-represented at the info session yesterday. Therefore, URM seemed to be a misnomer.sunynp wrote:WTF?? What do you mean by "them"? Your potential classmates who don't have the same skin color as you?PSUdevon wrote:Didn't really learn much that I didn't know, though I thought there would've been something distinguishing it from NYU, numerically. They're almost identical. And it pretty much made my decision of ED'ing to NYU a lock, since Morningside Heights was pretty boring (though I did have some delicious Mexican for lunch) and all else is pretty much equal. I was actually amazed by how many URM's were at the info session today. Had to be at least a third. If that's the makeup of the student body, it's tough to call them under-represented.
Is it that hard?
I'm from just outside the city, but how about this number.sunynp wrote:Why are people surprised that a large number ofNo, what is hard to believe is how you view your potential classmates based on race. Where are you from that you find it so unlikely that "black" people would be at orientation? Have you spent much time in NYC? And, URM for law school admissions is defined by law not how many people show up at orientationPSUdevon wrote:You're fucking with me, right? URM stands for "Under-represented minority," of which African Americans qualify. Given how many students at the info session were black, it's hard to argue that they were under-represented at the info session yesterday. Therefore, URM seemed to be a misnomer.sunynp wrote:WTF?? What do you mean by "them"? Your potential classmates who don't have the same skin color as you?PSUdevon wrote:Didn't really learn much that I didn't know, though I thought there would've been something distinguishing it from NYU, numerically. They're almost identical. And it pretty much made my decision of ED'ing to NYU a lock, since Morningside Heights was pretty boring (though I did have some delicious Mexican for lunch) and all else is pretty much equal. I was actually amazed by how many URM's were at the info session today. Had to be at least a third. If that's the makeup of the student body, it's tough to call them under-represented.
Is it that hard?
HTH
Damn it, why'd you go and bring logic and sanity into this discussion?IamJosh wrote:This sort of thing makes me mad, so even though I shouldn't, I'll add my two cents.
URM is an acronym, not a specific race. Black people weren't brought up until later. As a group, which by definition are assumed to be under-represented in law schools, the "members" were represented in a greater amount than would be expected. There is nothing negative, and every single one of THEM will be identifying as URM on their own.
Everything I have seen at Columbia looks like they have a pretty solid set of clinical opportunities. They also said that generally, anyone who wants to take part in a clinic gets the opportunity. Some students stay in clinics for two semesters.Gorges wrote:Well that got very heated very fast... I didn't have internet access until tonight, so I didn't get to weigh in until right now. I also noticed a large number of URMs and people who seemed to be out in the workplace. I was a little concerned with a few things, because they didn't really mention clinical opportunities at all. As someone who wants to go into gender law, I'm very interested in CLS's Gender and Sexuality Law Clinic, so I had to ask a little more about it afterward and got the answers I needed. I also am very interested in eventually pursuing academia, and Columbia barely discusses this in their PR materials (even though they're a top feeder school for professors), so I asked about that afterwards too and got a pretty solid answer.
I'm from Upstate NY, so the city generally freaks me out. I liked Morningside Heights and the campus in general though, it reminds me of Ithaca with more traffic and less hippies.