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confusedlaw
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CLS info session

Postby confusedlaw » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:25 pm

IS anyone attending the info session tomorrow?

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Re: CLS info session

Postby Gorges » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:54 pm

confusedlaw wrote:IS anyone attending the info session tomorrow?


I am! I'll be the girl wearing white pants :)

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Re: CLS info session

Postby Yeshia90 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:31 pm

What has two thumbs and will see you there tomorrow?

PSUdevon, how you doing?

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Re: CLS info session

Postby confusedlaw » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:36 pm

haha yea i mean my numbers arent anywhere close to being good enough to get in, but after getting the email and living 30 mins away, it was worth taking off work and stopping by lol

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Re: CLS info session

Postby Yeshia90 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:39 pm

confusedlaw wrote:haha yea i mean my numbers arent anywhere close to being good enough to get in, but after getting the email and living 30 mins away, it was worth taking off work and stopping by lol


I'm probably on the wrong side of the bubble too (and I'll be ED'ing to NYU), but it's definitely worth a few hours that would otherwise be spent sleeping and playing NCAA 12 just to network and potentially get some useful information on the admissions process. Can't possibly hurt. Plus, I sprained my foot and I'll be working with a limp, so maybe I'll get the "George Costanza bump."
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Re: CLS info session

Postby confusedlaw » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:40 pm

thats what i figured, although your lsat will prob get you a much better shot than mine, stupid 167 lol

yea exactly i work with kids, so the day off is exactly what im looking for, this just makes for a great excuse l ol

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Re: CLS info session

Postby Gorges » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:24 pm

Ummmm TLS party? Fantastic. See you tomorrow.

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Re: CLS info session

Postby Yeshia90 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:44 pm

So, that was fun.

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Re: CLS info session

Postby confusedlaw » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:47 pm

haha what did you think?

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Re: CLS info session

Postby Yeshia90 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:53 pm

Didn't really learn much that I didn't know, though I thought there would've been something distinguishing it from NYU, numerically. They're almost identical. And it pretty much made my decision of ED'ing to NYU a lock, since Morningside Heights was pretty boring (though I did have some delicious Mexican for lunch) and all else is pretty much equal. I was actually amazed by how many URM's were at the info session today. Had to be at least a third. If that's the makeup of the student body, it's tough to call them under-represented.

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Re: CLS info session

Postby sunynp » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:56 pm

PSUdevon wrote:Didn't really learn much that I didn't know, though I thought there would've been something distinguishing it from NYU, numerically. They're almost identical. And it pretty much made my decision of ED'ing to NYU a lock, since Morningside Heights was pretty boring (though I did have some delicious Mexican for lunch) and all else is pretty much equal. I was actually amazed by how many URM's were at the info session today. Had to be at least a third. If that's the makeup of the student body, it's tough to call them under-represented.


WTF?? What do you mean by "them"? Your potential classmates who don't have the same skin color as you?

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Re: CLS info session

Postby Yeshia90 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:15 am

sunynp wrote:
PSUdevon wrote:Didn't really learn much that I didn't know, though I thought there would've been something distinguishing it from NYU, numerically. They're almost identical. And it pretty much made my decision of ED'ing to NYU a lock, since Morningside Heights was pretty boring (though I did have some delicious Mexican for lunch) and all else is pretty much equal. I was actually amazed by how many URM's were at the info session today. Had to be at least a third. If that's the makeup of the student body, it's tough to call them under-represented.


WTF?? What do you mean by "them"? Your potential classmates who don't have the same skin color as you?


You're fucking with me, right? URM stands for "Under-represented minority," of which African Americans qualify. Given how many students at the info session were black, it's hard to argue that they were under-represented at the info session yesterday. Therefore, URM seemed to be a misnomer.

Is it that hard?

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Re: CLS info session

Postby LaCumparsita » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:42 pm

Peace and love, people, peace and love. Do you guys know if Columbia has any info sessions on the West Coast? I'd like to go to one in the Bay Area. :D

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Re: CLS info session

Postby confusedlaw » Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:39 am

there were an astonishing amount of URM's there as well as people quite a few years out of college, especially where i was sitting.

i actually really liked morningside heights, the cathedral over there makes me remember Europe, and the park was filled with really amazing statues. The bar scene on Amsterdam is very legit as well.

although i wont get in, i felt like i had to defend the area ha

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Re: CLS info session

Postby sunynp » Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:52 am

Why are people surprised that a large number of
PSUdevon wrote:
sunynp wrote:
PSUdevon wrote:Didn't really learn much that I didn't know, though I thought there would've been something distinguishing it from NYU, numerically. They're almost identical. And it pretty much made my decision of ED'ing to NYU a lock, since Morningside Heights was pretty boring (though I did have some delicious Mexican for lunch) and all else is pretty much equal. I was actually amazed by how many URM's were at the info session today. Had to be at least a third. If that's the makeup of the student body, it's tough to call them under-represented.


WTF?? What do you mean by "them"? Your potential classmates who don't have the same skin color as you?


You're fucking with me, right? URM stands for "Under-represented minority," of which African Americans qualify. Given how many students at the info session were black, it's hard to argue that they were under-represented at the info session yesterday. Therefore, URM seemed to be a misnomer.

Is it that hard?


No, what is hard to believe is how you view your potential classmates based on race. Where are you from that you find it so unlikely that "black" people would be at orientation? Have you spent much time in NYC? And, URM for law school admissions is defined by law not how many people show up at orientation

HTH

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Re: CLS info session

Postby confusedlaw » Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:56 am

lmao im from nyc.

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Re: CLS info session

Postby Yeshia90 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:08 am

sunynp wrote:Why are people surprised that a large number of
PSUdevon wrote:
sunynp wrote:
PSUdevon wrote:Didn't really learn much that I didn't know, though I thought there would've been something distinguishing it from NYU, numerically. They're almost identical. And it pretty much made my decision of ED'ing to NYU a lock, since Morningside Heights was pretty boring (though I did have some delicious Mexican for lunch) and all else is pretty much equal. I was actually amazed by how many URM's were at the info session today. Had to be at least a third. If that's the makeup of the student body, it's tough to call them under-represented.


WTF?? What do you mean by "them"? Your potential classmates who don't have the same skin color as you?


You're fucking with me, right? URM stands for "Under-represented minority," of which African Americans qualify. Given how many students at the info session were black, it's hard to argue that they were under-represented at the info session yesterday. Therefore, URM seemed to be a misnomer.

Is it that hard?


No, what is hard to believe is how you view your potential classmates based on race. Where are you from that you find it so unlikely that "black" people would be at orientation? Have you spent much time in NYC? And, URM for law school admissions is defined by law not how many people show up at orientation

HTH


I'm from just outside the city, but how about this number.

According to Columbia's "Entering Class Profile," the class of 2013 was 11% black ( http://www.law.columbia.edu/jd_applicants/admissions/classprofile ). So I'm not allowed to think it's a little out of the ordinary for there to be significantly more than that at an info session, which I would've expected reflects the applicant pool fairly well? I was right, bro, it WAS an outlier. I'm not saying it's right, or wrong, or anything more than curious or strange. And if you'd step past your politically correct bullshit for one second, you'd realize that there's nothing wrong with that.

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Re: CLS info session

Postby sunynp » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:42 am

I don't agree with stereotyping how many people of a certain skin color should be at an orientation. You sound like "wow there are so many black people here, how did that happen?" But whatever, we just don't agree.

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Re: CLS info session

Postby IamJosh » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:10 pm

This sort of thing makes me mad, so even though I shouldn't, I'll add my two cents.

URM is an acronym, not a specific race. Black people weren't brought up until later. As a group, which by definition are assumed to be under-represented in law schools, the "members" were represented in a greater amount than would be expected. There is nothing negative, and every single one of THEM will be identifying as URM on their own.

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Re: CLS info session

Postby Yeshia90 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:26 pm

IamJosh wrote:This sort of thing makes me mad, so even though I shouldn't, I'll add my two cents.

URM is an acronym, not a specific race. Black people weren't brought up until later. As a group, which by definition are assumed to be under-represented in law schools, the "members" were represented in a greater amount than would be expected. There is nothing negative, and every single one of THEM will be identifying as URM on their own.


Damn it, why'd you go and bring logic and sanity into this discussion?

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Re: CLS info session

Postby soj » Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:38 pm

omg ~drama~

CLS students and wannabes are so cut-throat :D

PSU, there's an escape from all this, you know. check you pm

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Re: CLS info session

Postby Gorges » Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:10 pm

Well that got very heated very fast... I didn't have internet access until tonight, so I didn't get to weigh in until right now. I also noticed a large number of URMs and people who seemed to be out in the workplace. I was a little concerned with a few things, because they didn't really mention clinical opportunities at all. As someone who wants to go into gender law, I'm very interested in CLS's Gender and Sexuality Law Clinic, so I had to ask a little more about it afterward and got the answers I needed. I also am very interested in eventually pursuing academia, and Columbia barely discusses this in their PR materials (even though they're a top feeder school for professors), so I asked about that afterwards too and got a pretty solid answer.

I'm from Upstate NY, so the city generally freaks me out. I liked Morningside Heights and the campus in general though, it reminds me of Ithaca with more traffic and less hippies. :)

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Re: CLS info session

Postby WestOfTheRest » Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:27 pm

Gorges wrote:Well that got very heated very fast... I didn't have internet access until tonight, so I didn't get to weigh in until right now. I also noticed a large number of URMs and people who seemed to be out in the workplace. I was a little concerned with a few things, because they didn't really mention clinical opportunities at all. As someone who wants to go into gender law, I'm very interested in CLS's Gender and Sexuality Law Clinic, so I had to ask a little more about it afterward and got the answers I needed. I also am very interested in eventually pursuing academia, and Columbia barely discusses this in their PR materials (even though they're a top feeder school for professors), so I asked about that afterwards too and got a pretty solid answer.

I'm from Upstate NY, so the city generally freaks me out. I liked Morningside Heights and the campus in general though, it reminds me of Ithaca with more traffic and less hippies. :)

Everything I have seen at Columbia looks like they have a pretty solid set of clinical opportunities. They also said that generally, anyone who wants to take part in a clinic gets the opportunity. Some students stay in clinics for two semesters.




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