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ASU student.

Postby meadmans » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:28 pm

Does the whole country view ASU undergrad as being less challenging than most? Will it hurt me on the application?

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Re: ASU student.

Postby rinkrat19 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:37 pm

Undergrad prestige has almost zero effect, unless a school is comparing a Princeton grad to, like, a University of Phoenix grad.

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Re: ASU student.

Postby Yeshia90 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:48 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:Undergrad prestige has almost zero effect, unless a school is comparing a Princeton grad to, like, a University of Phoenix grad.


Yeah, but compared to Arizona State, Phoenix is Princeton.

I kid, I kid.

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Re: ASU student.

Postby Veyron » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:56 pm

meadmans wrote:Does the whole country view ASU undergrad as being less challenging than most? Will it hurt me on the application?


*Roll eyes*
No, it will probably help since you likely have a killer GPA.

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Re: ASU student.

Postby meadmans » Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:39 pm

hahaha it is fairly easy i will admit thanks though

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Re: ASU student.

Postby Glock » Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:47 pm

ASU's academic rigor is like most other state schools: not hard but also not a joke. ASU's fairly bad reputation comes from the fact that it is so easy to get in and so many Californians (most of whom were rejected from the UC system) attend. Both of these make a huge student body (largest or second largest in the country) that is full of fairly unimpressive people.

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Re: ASU student.

Postby Glock » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:50 am

PSUdevon wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:Undergrad prestige has almost zero effect, unless a school is comparing a Princeton grad to, like, a University of Phoenix grad.


Yeah, but compared to Arizona State, Phoenix is Princeton.

I kid, I kid.



Compared to Arizona State, Phoenix School of Law is like Princeton Law. It doesn't exist.

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Re: ASU student.

Postby Veyron » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:52 am

Glock wrote:
PSUdevon wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:Undergrad prestige has almost zero effect, unless a school is comparing a Princeton grad to, like, a University of Phoenix grad.


Yeah, but compared to Arizona State, Phoenix is Princeton.

I kid, I kid.



Compared to Arizona State, Phoenix School of Law is like Princeton Law. It doesn't exist.


? Phoenix School of Law exists.

P.S. I wasn't joking - I wish I had gone to ASU for undergrad, I would be on a full ride to Penn right now.

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Re: ASU student.

Postby Glock » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:15 pm

Veyron wrote:
? Phoenix School of Law exists.

P.S. I wasn't joking - I wish I had gone to ASU for undergrad, I would be on a full ride to Penn right now.


I was just making fun of PSL as the TTTT it is. All the smart ones transfer to ASU after 1L and the rest are stuck with no jerb prospects. PSL has decent instructors (who wouldn't take a check?) and I am sure the quality of legal education is fine, just nobody will hire them. Prestige matters.

ASU undergrad is ground zero for people gunning for law. The people are below average, the A's are plentiful, A+ is available in almost every class. The only hit you take is that the institution is not well respected, which is not very important when you have a 4.1 LSAC GPA.

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Re: ASU student.

Postby Hopefully2012 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:17 pm

Veyron wrote:
Glock wrote:
PSUdevon wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:Undergrad prestige has almost zero effect, unless a school is comparing a Princeton grad to, like, a University of Phoenix grad.


Yeah, but compared to Arizona State, Phoenix is Princeton.

I kid, I kid.



Compared to Arizona State, Phoenix School of Law is like Princeton Law. It doesn't exist.


? Phoenix School of Law exists.

P.S. I wasn't joking - I wish I had gone to ASU for undergrad, I would be on a full ride to Penn right now.


Candy makes a point to say her school is not affiliated with the University of Phoenix on her emails to me :lol:

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Re: ASU student.

Postby Veyron » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:21 pm

ASU undergrad is ground zero for people gunning for law. The people are below average, the A's are plentiful, A+ is available in almost every class. The only hit you take is that the institution is not well respected, which is not very important when you have a 4.1 LSAC GPA.


As far as law schools are concerned, its just as well respected as any non Ivy or Ivy equivalent, law schools just do not give a f*** about which undergrad you went to for the most part. Cheap 4.3 for the win.

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Re: ASU student.

Postby Glock » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:24 pm

Veyron wrote:
ASU undergrad is ground zero for people gunning for law. The people are below average, the A's are plentiful, A+ is available in almost every class. The only hit you take is that the institution is not well respected, which is not very important when you have a 4.1 LSAC GPA.


As far as law schools are concerned, its just as well respected as any non Ivy or Ivy equivalent, law schools just do not give a f*** about which undergrad you went to for the most part. Cheap 4.3 for the win.



I say the same thing. I think undergrad quality might be a tiebreaker for those on the margin, but it generally does not matter. Another trick I have seen is to go to an alternative Pass/Fail school for two years, transfer to ASU and rock that 4.2 for the remainder. LSAC GPA= 4.2 and nobody in the admissions office cares because it raises their medians.

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Re: ASU student.

Postby Veyron » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:38 pm

Glock wrote:
Veyron wrote:
ASU undergrad is ground zero for people gunning for law. The people are below average, the A's are plentiful, A+ is available in almost every class. The only hit you take is that the institution is not well respected, which is not very important when you have a 4.1 LSAC GPA.


As far as law schools are concerned, its just as well respected as any non Ivy or Ivy equivalent, law schools just do not give a f*** about which undergrad you went to for the most part. Cheap 4.3 for the win.



I say the same thing. I think undergrad quality might be a tiebreaker for those on the margin, but it generally does not matter. Another trick I have seen is to go to an alternative Pass/Fail school for two years, transfer to ASU and rock that 4.2 for the remainder. LSAC GPA= 4.2 and nobody in the admissions office cares because it raises their medians.


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