Incredible situation lowered my GPA, need advice

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Re: Incredible situation lowered my GPA, need advice

Postby WestOfTheRest » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:50 pm

AreJay711 wrote:I think LSAC uses whatever measurements your school does so if retaking the class eliminates the old grade then that is what LSAC will do.

Specifically, no it will not. Only if your school removes the old grade from your transcript, completely.

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Re: Incredible situation lowered my GPA, need advice

Postby AreJay711 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:03 pm

CastleRock wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:I think LSAC uses whatever measurements your school does so if retaking the class eliminates the old grade then that is what LSAC will do.

Specifically, no it will not. Only if your school removes the old grade from your transcript, completely.

Or marks it as an R or some other placeholder for a retake.

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Re: Incredible situation lowered my GPA, need advice

Postby WestOfTheRest » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:10 pm

AreJay711 wrote:
CastleRock wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:I think LSAC uses whatever measurements your school does so if retaking the class eliminates the old grade then that is what LSAC will do.

Specifically, no it will not. Only if your school removes the old grade from your transcript, completely.

Or marks it as an R or some other placeholder for a retake.

Yes, which would be removing the grade completely. But if they don't remove the grade from your transcript, even if they don't count it towards your GPA, LSAC will count it towards your GPA.

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Re: Incredible situation lowered my GPA, need advice

Postby BackToTheOldHouse » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:19 pm

OP, just a little insight from someone who has been teaching at a CC for the last few years and who has dealt with her fair share of students not dropping and then wanting their transcripts changed: When you finally talk with the instructor whose signature you need, make sure you have whatever document you need him to sign in hand.

If your school is anything like the schools I've taught for, you likely need to have the instructor sign a carbon-copy paper and write a sentence or two about why the grade should be changed/removed. Then the Dean of the department usually has to sign the paper, and then usually the Dean of Students or some other schmuck.

Also, make sure that you don't just hand your instructor the page blank. Fill in all of your shit--name, student ID, etc.--and also fill in the course information (section #, year, semester). The last thing this dude is going to want to do is sign a blank sheet or wait for you to fill in the information like a bumbling dumb-ass.

If I sound a little annoyed when talking about this, it's because I am. As an instructor, the last thing you want to do is stand in the hallway after class while an unprepared kid wastes your time by not being prepared.

Lastly, here's the good thing: the process is literally just getting signatures on paper. No one really cares about the ethics of whether or not the grade should be changed. They just hate being bothered by the paperwork.

Good luck.

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Re: Incredible situation lowered my GPA, need advice

Postby Glock » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:25 pm

BackToTheOldHouse wrote:OP, just a little insight from someone who has been teaching at a CC for the last few years and who has dealt with her fair share of students not dropping and then wanting their transcripts changed: When you finally talk with the instructor whose signature you need, make sure you have whatever document you need him to sign in hand.

If your school is anything like the schools I've taught for, you likely need to have the instructor sign a carbon-copy paper and write a sentence or two about why the grade should be changed/removed. Then the Dean of the department usually has to sign the paper, and then usually the Dean of Students or some other schmuck.

Also, make sure that you don't just hand your instructor the page blank. Fill in all of your shit--name, student ID, etc.--and also fill in the course information (section #, year, semester). The last thing this dude is going to want to do is sign a blank sheet or wait for you to fill in the information like a bumbling dumb-ass.

If I sound a little annoyed when talking about this, it's because I am. As an instructor, the last thing you want to do is stand in the hallway after class while an unprepared kid wastes your time by not being prepared.

Lastly, here's the good thing: the process is literally just getting signatures on paper. No one really cares about the ethics of whether or not the grade should be changed. They just hate being bothered by the paperwork.

Good luck.



God this is great advice. I have seen that fumbling situation like 9 times. Make sure the limit to the effort and time they have to put in is say "yes" and sign their name.

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Re: Incredible situation lowered my GPA, need advice

Postby dsosah » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:45 pm

Again, great advice guys, especially BackToTheOldHouse, I really hadn't thought about this and you are right, this is going to help immensely if the teacher decides to change the grade. Thank you.




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