Why T14?

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Why T14?

Postby Questions4people » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:49 pm

How come it's not T15 or T20, a nice round number, I get that those from T14 have a much better shot at clerkships and jobs at biglaw, etc but what is it about the 14 that recruiters like and why not that 15th school? Obviously they like the prestige factor, but I'm saying what makes those 14 the most prestigious.

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Re: Why T14?

Postby rinkrat19 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:54 pm

Questions4people wrote:How come it's not T15 or T20, a nice round number, I get that those from T14 have a much better shot at clerkships and jobs at biglaw, etc but what is it about the 14 that recruiters like and why not that 15th school? Obviously they like the prestige factor, but I'm saying what makes those 14 the most prestigious.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/dissecti ... kings.html

Since USNWR first began publishing their rankings annually in 1989, the same schools have been ranked the top fourteen each and every year. Though there has been a great deal of jockeying for position elsewhere in the rankings, and certain schools have risen and fallen dramatically in the past 20 years, the T14 has remained a homogenous group. Though the rankings of individual schools have shifted sometimes dramatically (with the exception of Yale, which has always held the coveted number-one spot), no new schools have been inducted into the exclusive club that is the T14.

The main feature that distinguishes the Top 14 from other schools is the ability of their graduates to find employment all over the country. In an interview with the Washington Post, notable admissions guru Anna Ivey says, “a degree from a top 14 school will be portable nationally.” Even at highly ranked schools on the cusp T14-dom (UCLA, Texas – Austin, USC, Vanderbilt, etc.), the option to leave the primary market is greatly diminished – and the further down the rankings one moves, the greater the difficulty.

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Re: Why T14?

Postby EarlCat » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:32 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:
Since USNWR first began publishing their rankings annually in 1989, the same schools have been ranked the top fourteen each and every year. Though there has been a great deal of jockeying for position elsewhere in the rankings, and certain schools have risen and fallen dramatically in the past 20 years, the T14 has remained a homogenous group. Though the rankings of individual schools have shifted sometimes dramatically (with the exception of Yale, which has always held the coveted number-one spot), no new schools have been inducted into the exclusive club that is the T14.

The main feature that distinguishes the Top 14 from other schools is the ability of their graduates to find employment all over the country. In an interview with the Washington Post, notable admissions guru Anna Ivey says, “a degree from a top 14 school will be portable nationally.” Even at highly ranked schools on the cusp T14-dom (UCLA, Texas – Austin, USC, Vanderbilt, etc.), the option to leave the primary market is greatly diminished – and the further down the rankings one moves, the greater the difficulty.


Texas is now T14

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Re: Why T14?

Postby Curry » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:35 pm

EarlCat wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:
Since USNWR first began publishing their rankings annually in 1989, the same schools have been ranked the top fourteen each and every year. Though there has been a great deal of jockeying for position elsewhere in the rankings, and certain schools have risen and fallen dramatically in the past 20 years, the T14 has remained a homogenous group. Though the rankings of individual schools have shifted sometimes dramatically (with the exception of Yale, which has always held the coveted number-one spot), no new schools have been inducted into the exclusive club that is the T14.

The main feature that distinguishes the Top 14 from other schools is the ability of their graduates to find employment all over the country. In an interview with the Washington Post, notable admissions guru Anna Ivey says, “a degree from a top 14 school will be portable nationally.” Even at highly ranked schools on the cusp T14-dom (UCLA, Texas – Austin, USC, Vanderbilt, etc.), the option to leave the primary market is greatly diminished – and the further down the rankings one moves, the greater the difficulty.


Texas is now T14

Did you read the first sentence?

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Re: Why T14?

Postby EarlCat » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:44 pm

Curry wrote:Did you read the first sentence?

Since USNWR first began publishing their rankings annually in 1989, the same schools have been ranked the top fourteen each and every year?

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Re: Why T14?

Postby Renzo » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:49 pm

EarlCat wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:
Since USNWR first began publishing their rankings annually in 1989, the same schools have been ranked the top fourteen each and every year. Though there has been a great deal of jockeying for position elsewhere in the rankings, and certain schools have risen and fallen dramatically in the past 20 years, the T14 has remained a homogenous group. Though the rankings of individual schools have shifted sometimes dramatically (with the exception of Yale, which has always held the coveted number-one spot), no new schools have been inducted into the exclusive club that is the T14.

The main feature that distinguishes the Top 14 from other schools is the ability of their graduates to find employment all over the country. In an interview with the Washington Post, notable admissions guru Anna Ivey says, “a degree from a top 14 school will be portable nationally.” Even at highly ranked schools on the cusp T14-dom (UCLA, Texas – Austin, USC, Vanderbilt, etc.), the option to leave the primary market is greatly diminished – and the further down the rankings one moves, the greater the difficulty.


Texas is now T14


Texas has cracked the T14 before. It doesn't change anything.

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Re: Why T14?

Postby EarlCat » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:04 pm

Renzo wrote:Texas has cracked the T14 before. It doesn't change anything.

When was that?

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Re: Why T14?

Postby redsoxfan2495 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:20 pm

Another thing that distinguishes Texas from the traditional T14 is that it has never made the top ten. YHSCCNMVPBDNCG all have been T10 at one point or another.

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Re: Why T14?

Postby Verity » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:37 pm

Shut up.

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Re: Why T14?

Postby rayiner » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:00 pm

Questions4people wrote:How come it's not T15 or T20, a nice round number, I get that those from T14 have a much better shot at clerkships and jobs at biglaw, etc but what is it about the 14 that recruiters like and why not that 15th school? Obviously they like the prestige factor, but I'm saying what makes those 14 the most prestigious.


I never understand this particular question, although people ask it regularly. Why should the size of the set of schools that recruiters like have any connection to an arbitrarily round number? That's like asking "why are there 9 US cities with populations above a million, what don't people like about the 10th city?"

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Re: Why T14?

Postby Renzo » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:25 pm

EarlCat wrote:
Renzo wrote:Texas has cracked the T14 before. It doesn't change anything.

When was that?


1987, the first year the rankings were published, they were #11. Not since then, though, I don't think.

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Re: Why T14?

Postby shoeshine » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:29 pm

It T13 now bro.

HTH

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Re: Why T14?

Postby boosk » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:30 pm

anyone know if there have been any schools that have not been ranked outside the T20 since the inception of the USN rankings? UCLA? UT? Vandy? or did they gradually make their way to where they are?

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Re: Why T14?

Postby Renzo » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:38 pm

boosk wrote:anyone know if there have been any schools that have not been ranked outside the T20 since the inception of the USN rankings? UCLA? UT? Vandy? or did they gradually make their way to where they are?

UCLA and Texas both dipped out of the top 20 for a year each. USC and Vandy have always been in.

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Re: Why T14?

Postby EarlCat » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:09 am

Renzo wrote:
EarlCat wrote:
Renzo wrote:Texas has cracked the T14 before. It doesn't change anything.

When was that?


1987, the first year the rankings were published, they were #11. Not since then, though, I don't think.

Wow, you're right. UCLA was in there too while Cornell and NU were lower.




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