Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

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Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby kovacs » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:25 pm

Do law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outliers? When it says "low" gpa, does it mean the LOWEST, or does the school's profile use the range from the median to the highest gpa and use this range to determine what LOW is?

Here is Yale's law school GPA stat:

http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/profile.htm

It says that the lowest gpa is a 3.4. Does that mean there's practically no hope for those below/far below that gpa?

Thanks.

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Re: Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby bk1 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:27 pm

That would be Yale's LSAT and GPA range.

Most schools on their websites will either post their range (this is more common with the tippy top schools) or they will post their 25th/50th/75th percentiles.

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Re: Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby kovacs » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:31 pm

I forget to mention that I ask because of the report found on this site regarding "low" gpas.
http://www.ilrg.com/rankings/law/index. ... esc/GPALow

As you can see, Yale's low is reported as a stellar 3.77 gpa. Bah?? Hence, my question to the first question regarding Yale's own definition of low and whether or not they omit outliers.

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Re: Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby bk1 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:32 pm

kovacs wrote:I forget to mention that I ask because of the report found on this site regarding "low" gpas.
http://www.ilrg.com/rankings/law/index. ... esc/GPALow

As you can see, Yale's low is reported as a stellar 3.77 gpa. Bah?? Hence, my question to the first question regarding Yale's own definition of low and whether or not they omit outliers.


I don't know why that website is doing it like that but the low/high are the 25th/75th if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby kovacs » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:33 pm

So, if someone got into Yale with a 2.9, Yale probably wouldn't report it....?

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Re: Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby bk1 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:35 pm

kovacs wrote:So, if someone got into Yale with a 2.9, Yale probably wouldn't report it....?


They would have to report it to the ABA/USNWR. As for reporting it on their website, that would be up to them but I doubt they would mislead people by omitting a number while pretending it was the entire range. If someone got into Yale with a 2.9 and they have a history of reporting the entire range on their site, I don't see why they wouldn't. Their website currently shows that someone with a 158 got in.

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Re: Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby Patriot1208 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:47 pm

Dood, it's extremely unlikely you are getting into any of the top three without at least a 3.7, more likely a 3.8.

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Re: Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby Oban » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:06 pm

those numbers posted are inaccurate, wustl for exaple lists 3.3 as lowest GPA, while I know that tons of people here are low GPA splitters, like me.

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Re: Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby acrossthelake » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:06 am

Oban wrote:those numbers posted are inaccurate, wustl for exaple lists 3.3 as lowest GPA, while I know that tons of people here are low GPA splitters, like me.


The website is using "low" to mean 25th percentile and "high" to mean 75th percentile.

Yale's website is listing all possible: Lowest, 25th, Median, 75th, and Highest.

Honestly, if one had an application exceptional enough to get into Yale with a 2.9, I don't know why they'd be going to law school instead of continuing in whatever arena/field that they succeeded so well in to manage that.


Patriot1208 wrote:Dood, it's extremely unlikely you are getting into any of the top three without at least a 3.7, more likely a 3.8.


Yeah, this. My 3.7X got waitlisted.

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Re: Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby boosk » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:51 am

Patriot1208 wrote:Dood, it's extremely unlikely you are getting into any of the top three without at least a 3.7, more likely a 3.8.



yeah but somebody did it... probly had a 180 or somethin tho

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Re: Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby Patriot1208 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:00 am

boosk wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:Dood, it's extremely unlikely you are getting into any of the top three without at least a 3.7, more likely a 3.8.



yeah but somebody did it... probly had a 180 or somethin tho

And a 180 3.4 by itself isn't getting you into yale. In the past the people we've seen get in with low gpa's/lsats were legacies or people who had something extraordinary on their resume, like the author of prozac nation.

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Re: Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby nphsbuckeye » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:37 pm

boosk wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:Dood, it's extremely unlikely you are getting into any of the top three without at least a 3.7, more likely a 3.8.



yeah but somebody did it... probly had a 180 or somethin tho

Or actually having really good outstanding softs.

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Re: Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:41 pm

If I were writting a profile page, I might exclude someone who got LSAC pwnd. For example, took one class at community college while in high school, earns a B, then goes to a UK school and 4.0's it. LSAC would say that's 3.0, while everyone else in the world would call it 4.0.

But 3.4 seems like a pretty fair lowest GPA at yale.

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Re: Do Law school reports on class profiles omit low gpa outlier

Postby senorhosh » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:31 pm

wait i don't get it.
The "low gpa" and "low lsat" means that's the lowest they've accepted? or it's the lowest of their RANGE?

The former would mean that anyone with a GPA lower than 3.3 has not been accepted to any on the first page of the list.

//edit//
oh i see. the first website is the range and the second website (Yale's) is the actual data.




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