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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:46 pm
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Why did you do so poorly on the LSAT?SeanNeedsAdvice wrote:That will be impossible, I took the LSAT 3 times in the last year (June '10, Oct '10, December '10). Cancelled once and got a 154 both other times. I know I'm capable of a much higher score, but the 3 limit per 2 years is stopping me from taking it again and I don't want to take any time off.
Why are you so against taking time off before law school? You could work, save money, and study your ass off for the LSAT. Do you realize that you're going to have to work WAY harder to even have a shot at transferring to a T14 than you probably would to get a significantly better LSAT and attend a school that won't be career suicide? You have a decent GPA from a decent school. Don't waste it.SeanNeedsAdvice wrote:In all honesty, I don't want to make excuses for myself but it was a combination of two things: A) I didn't take it serious enough, and B) the test happened to fall on my two hardest quarters at UCLA --and I didn't want to take time off to study (in retrospect I wish I did).bk187 wrote:Why did you do so poorly on the LSAT?SeanNeedsAdvice wrote:That will be impossible, I took the LSAT 3 times in the last year (June '10, Oct '10, December '10). Cancelled once and got a 154 both other times. I know I'm capable of a much higher score, but the 3 limit per 2 years is stopping me from taking it again and I don't want to take any time off.
What makes you think you would do well in law school? I'm serious. You were immature and impatient in regards to the biggest part of the law school application process not once but three separate times. Why do you think it is a good idea to go to law school when all the indicators say that you aren't really prepared for it? I mean if you were to go to Stetson, you would be paying almost two hundred thousand dollars (source: http://www.law.stetson.edu/tmpl/admissi ... spx?id=420) to go to a school where barely half of the graduates actually get full time jobs as lawyers (source: --LinkRemoved--).SeanNeedsAdvice wrote:In all honesty, I don't want to make excuses for myself but it was a combination of two things: A) I didn't take it serious enough, and B) the test happened to fall on my two hardest quarters at UCLA --and I didn't want to take time off to study (in retrospect I wish I did).
Sorry to be blunt, but you really screwed yourself. If you want to go to law school you should take time off and retake the LSAT. If you really, really, really don't want to take time off then you can take the $70K gamble and try to get top 5% for L1. Just be prepared to drop out after your first year and have a plan to pay $70K back.SeanNeedsAdvice wrote:That will be impossible, I took the LSAT 3 times in the last year (June '10, Oct '10, December '10). Cancelled once and got a 154 both other times. I know I'm capable of a much higher score, but the 3 limit per 2 years is stopping me from taking it again and I don't want to take any time off.TheFactor wrote:It would be much easier to improve your LSAT 15 or 16 points than to transfer into the T14 from one of these schools. Going to any school with intentions of transferring is a terrible idea.
YESSeanNeedsAdvice wrote: Is it worth it to get a "late start" into law and go to a much better school? I think I'm capable of getting at least 164+, is that 10 point difference and two year break worth it?
Yes.SeanNeedsAdvice wrote:The general consensus seems to be that I should take 1-2 years off and take the LSAT again. Is it worth it to get a "late start" into law and go to a much better school? I think I'm capable of getting at least 164+, is that 10 point difference and two year break worth it? I would seek full-time employment during the break, and I think my parents would allow me to stay at home so I wouldn't have to worry about cost of living too much.bk187 wrote:What makes you think you would do well in law school? I'm serious. You were immature and impatient in regards to the biggest part of the law school application process not once but three separate times. Why do you think it is a good idea to go to law school when all the indicators say that you aren't really prepared for it? I mean if you were to go to Stetson, you would be paying almost two hundred thousand dollars (source: http://www.law.stetson.edu/tmpl/admissi ... spx?id=420) to go to a school where barely half of the graduates actually get full time jobs as lawyers (source: --LinkRemoved--).SeanNeedsAdvice wrote:In all honesty, I don't want to make excuses for myself but it was a combination of two things: A) I didn't take it serious enough, and B) the test happened to fall on my two hardest quarters at UCLA --and I didn't want to take time off to study (in retrospect I wish I did).
I agree with the others that say you should take time off. Let yourself mature, and retake the LSAT again in a couple years (or retake it sooner if you can get a waiver to allow you to take it a fourth time in 2 years). Paying sticker at a school like Stetson is a bad idea and it would behoove you to wait before going to law school.
Additionally, based on the test dates I've given in my earlier post, what is the earliest date I can take the LSAT again? June '12 or October '12?
Last question, what is generally the best LSAT prep course recommended by TLS? Cost is not a factor.
Thanks everyone for the advice and the reality check. My goals and plans have been drastically revised.
what you call relax, fraternities call manning up, and not wetting your pants over a test you can take over and over.CanadianWolf wrote:I know students who scored in the mid-150s after practice testing as much as 19 points higher. Gameday is a lot different than practice--you need to relax in order to test well.