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Postby AztecaRex » Thu May 05, 2011 5:30 pm

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby Mce252 » Thu May 05, 2011 5:35 pm

Which prestigious national scholarship? What would you be studying overseas? I would get an answer from Yale before thinking too much about it.

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby tourdeforcex » Thu May 05, 2011 5:35 pm

what do you want to do?

what do you gain by this prestigious national scholarship?

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby glitter178 » Thu May 05, 2011 5:37 pm

which country?

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby CMDantes » Thu May 05, 2011 5:43 pm

Take corporate law internship, go to Yale, win at life.

Travel later.

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby AztecaRex » Thu May 05, 2011 5:43 pm

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby scammedhard » Thu May 05, 2011 5:52 pm

Stop wasting your time here and go ask Yale for the deferment. It really depends on their answer, right?

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby whymeohgodno » Thu May 05, 2011 5:53 pm

Yale never grants deferrals.

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby Mce252 » Thu May 05, 2011 5:55 pm

I think passsing up Yale for the opportunity to network and learn culture would be one of the worst decisions you could ever make. Go to Yale -- you'll have plenty of time for all that when you're done.

The only reason that scholarship would be really appealing is if you were trying to get into Yale. You're in!

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby ahduth » Thu May 05, 2011 5:57 pm

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Brazil > Yale. If you haven't been reading the news lately, this country's going to be eaten alive by BRIC over the next couple decades.

I'd go learn Portuguese.

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby YaSvoboden » Thu May 05, 2011 5:58 pm

If I were in your situation and Yale will defer, I would take the scholarship in a heartbeat. That just sounds like a cool experience and even if you lost the corporate internship, you'll be at Yale. You will manage to find another internship that pays well.

Travel the world before you have to wear a suit and work 80 hrs/wk. 20 years down the road are you gonna be wishing that you had an extra year of corporate law under your belt or wondering what it would have been like to spend a year in Brazil?

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby Mce252 » Thu May 05, 2011 6:01 pm

What are you talking about? BRIC includes Brazil. Is it planning to eat itself? And how does learning Portuguese connect to participating in Brazil's economic growth?

Terrible advice.

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby AztecaRex » Thu May 05, 2011 6:02 pm

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby scammedhard » Thu May 05, 2011 6:04 pm

AztecaRex wrote:Thanks for the quick responses, guys.

FWIW, Yale will defer for sure--based on this, any new advice?

You mean that Yale will defer YOU or that in some cases they defer?

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby AztecaRex » Thu May 05, 2011 6:05 pm

scammedhard wrote:
AztecaRex wrote:Thanks for the quick responses, guys.

FWIW, Yale will defer for sure--based on this, any new advice?

You mean that Yale will defer YOU or that in some cases they defer?


They'll defer me.

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby scammedhard » Thu May 05, 2011 6:06 pm

AztecaRex wrote:
scammedhard wrote:
AztecaRex wrote:Thanks for the quick responses, guys.

FWIW, Yale will defer for sure--based on this, any new advice?

You mean that Yale will defer YOU or that in some cases they defer?


They'll defer me.

Then I'd go to Brazil...

EDIT: Now you should start a poll
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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby Mce252 » Thu May 05, 2011 6:06 pm

Well that changes everything. If you have a guarantee on Yale in 2012, take the scholarship.

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby ahduth » Thu May 05, 2011 6:07 pm

I would go to Brazil. Portuguese is a pain the ass to learn, and will only be more important as Brazil's economy becomes more relevant internationally. The connections you can make straight out of undergrad may be helpful, but I don't think they offset the value of a living abroad and learning another language. There's plenty of time to make connections if you're able to get into schools like Yale.

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby ahduth » Thu May 05, 2011 6:08 pm

Mce252 wrote:What are you talking about? BRIC includes Brazil. Is it planning to eat itself? And how does learning Portuguese connect to participating in Brazil's economic growth?

Terrible advice.


Wat. Yes, BRIC includes Brazil. It's going to eat the United States. Learning Portuguese helps you do business there, because their English sucks.

Terrible international business experience?

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby HamDel » Thu May 05, 2011 6:09 pm

Go to Brazil, man. Yale is waiting for when you get back and you really want to do this. People saying travel later are wrong, it's very hard after you've started a career and even if you do find the time you should go while you are young and healthy. Beautiful country, don't let this become a "what if I had..."

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby scammedhard » Thu May 05, 2011 6:12 pm

I forgot... if you are going to Brazil, you should also dump the girlfriend.

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu May 05, 2011 6:12 pm

Brazil is tempting, but it typically takes two years of immersion after a few years of college level study to become "proficient", not fluent, in a foreign language. Regardless, Brazil for a year is an amazing opportunity & language study has to start somewhere & sometime. The real issue, however, is will you be willing to leave Rio for New Haven ?

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby Mce252 » Thu May 05, 2011 6:14 pm

ahduth wrote:
Mce252 wrote:What are you talking about? BRIC includes Brazil. Is it planning to eat itself? And how does learning Portuguese connect to participating in Brazil's economic growth?

Terrible advice.


Wat. Yes, BRIC includes Brazil. It's going to eat the United States. Learning Portuguese helps you do business there, because their English sucks.

Terrible international business experience?



It would be a lot more practical to focus on learning Portuguese when OP knows their career is heading to Brazil. Brazil is not going to "eat" the United States. Yes, the U.S. is becoming less and less of an economic power, but it's not going to assimilate into Brazil. Suggesting that OP risk losing a Yale law degree to learn a years worth of Portuguese was not good advice. There are plenty of people who do much business with Brazil who know only english.

With deferment as a possibility, it's a different story.

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby geoduck » Thu May 05, 2011 6:37 pm

According to Goldman Sachs, in 2050 the US will move from the top GDP... to #2.
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Yeah. BRIC is swallowing the G7, but the US still destroys BR combined and nearly ties with I.

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Re: National Fellowship vs. Straight to Yale/Corporate Law

Postby notanumber » Thu May 05, 2011 6:46 pm

If you want to take the scholarship, do it. It sounds like a once in a lifetime chance. Just a few caveats:

1) Remember that the mentioned scholarship comes with a service requirement that will severely limit your possible post-graduate plans (i.e. no clerkship, no biglaw).

2) Largely because of the service requirement, the mentioned scholarship isn't incredibly prestigious. If you want something to "bolster your resume" this isn't it (the work you do in Brazil, however, might be)




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