What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

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Average softs, GPA: 3.53, LSAT for Cornell/GULC $$$$?

170-171
6
9%
172-173
15
23%
174-175
21
33%
176+
22
34%
 
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What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby SOCRATiC » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:42 pm

Okay gang,

I decided that after two years of software engineering, I'll take a stab at law school. I took the LSAT some time ago and landed in the mid 160s. I will definitely retake, but I need $$$$ in order to go. Here's my situation:

-2 years of full-time office administrative assistant job.
-2 years of experience in software engineering.
-LSDAS GPA (if I've calculated correctly): 3.53.

Could someone describe what LSAT score I would need in order to get at a decent amount of $$$$ from schools like GULC and Cornell?

I've already tried law school numbers, but there isn't as much data in my GPA range...

EDIT:

I also think "$$$$" is a little misleading, so lemme clarify a bit: I'm willing to go to the school if it offers me 45K of scholarship money.
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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby FiveSermon » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:52 pm

172+

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby northwood » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:52 pm

you need to get a score that is above the schools 75% ( or close to it, but above the median)

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Postby Stonewall » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:53 pm

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby SOCRATiC » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:00 pm

northwood wrote:you need to get a score that is above the schools 75% ( or close to it, but above the median)


In my situation, I'm pretty much at 25% for Cornell and a little above that for GULC in terms of GPA. Would a score simply a point above the 75% really offset that deficiency for scholarships?

It really seems to me that although law school admissions is almost entirely based on numbers, but when it comes to scholarships, softs and PS seems to matter a lot. But do law schools really care if I served as a student business organization's president as an undergraduate (I also spent several semesters working my way up as well)? Because honestly, these student organizatonal activities are a complete joke compared to an actual job.

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby Patriot1208 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:05 pm

How much money are you looking for?

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby northwood » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:05 pm

some schools use a formula to determine scholarships. Others use a more holistic method. Its hard to predict, and hard to guess which schools use what. Stregnthen your application all the way around, and send it in as early as possible. ( before thanksgiving)

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby SOCRATiC » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:14 pm

Patriot1208 wrote:How much money are you looking for?


I edited my post stating that if I receive at least 45K, then I'd be willing to go that school.

northwood wrote:some schools use a formula to determine scholarships. Others use a more holistic method. Its hard to predict, and hard to guess which schools use what. Stregnthen your application all the way around, and send it in as early as possible. ( before thanksgiving)


The great thing about being out of school is that my full transcript can be reflected (my grade trends improved significantly post sophomore year), and I can pretty much apply as early as October after taking the September LSAT.

On top of strengthening my application, would talking about my interest in (1) combining my technical background with law and (2) mentioning my need for a scholarship help my chances for a scholarship?

Also: Does scholarship negotiation actually work?

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby paulinaporizkova » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:20 pm

cornell and GULC generally don't give out much money compared to the other t14s. i know cornell pairs its merit aid with need, and i know GULC gives out big PI program scholarships, but i have never heard of GULC giving out big money to anyone else

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby northwood » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:30 pm

negotiating honestly all depends on your application and where and when you negotiate. If you use peer schools with better offers ( or better ranked ones) then you may get an increase. However, its a crapshoot. Worst case scenario is they tell you no-. You wont lose an offer, unless you are extremely rude.

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby SOCRATiC » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:27 am

Reading over these posts again, I sort of see how getting a scholarship at Cornell/GULC is somewhat unrealistic for me. Is it really my GPA that pretty much kills my chances?

Would things be different had I achieved at least a 3.6x as an undergrad?

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby well-hello-there » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:34 am

I know someone who got offered $45K/year at cornell this cycle. He has a 3.66 lsdas G.P.A. and 2 lsat scores 170 & 177. Weak softs, shitty personal statement.

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby EdmundBurke23 » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:40 am

how crappy was the personal statement, and how would you know?

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby SOCRATiC » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:20 am

God...

It looks like if I'm to ever get any $$$$ from a T14, I'm only allowed to get like 4 wrong on the LSAT...

LG: -0
LR: -0
LR: -1
RC: -3

FTW

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby well-hello-there » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:21 am

EdmundBurke23 wrote:how crappy was the personal statement, and how would you know?

it fucking sucked! some of the worst shit i've ever read. I posted about it here --> viewtopic.php?f=18&t=138105

I have no respect for any of the schools that accepted him.

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby well-hello-there » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:25 am

SOCRATiC wrote:God...

It looks like if I'm to ever get any $$$$ from a T14, I'm only allowed to get like 4 wrong on the LSAT...

LG: -0
LR: -0
LR: -1
RC: -3

FTW

with your sub-median gpa, not even a 180 would get you money at UVA. Unless you're a virginia resident.

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby SOCRATiC » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:35 am

I never really thought UVA was all that special, and given how selective they are with their out-of-state admissions process, I probably wouldn't apply. I prefer Michigan, which also looks easier to get money from.

This article about UVA also made me laugh.

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby RIPmitchhedberg » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:45 am

Depends how high in the T-14 you want. I know a few people who got $76k scholarships to Texas with 169s.

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby FiveSermon » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:50 am

RIPmitchhedberg wrote:Depends how high in the T-14 you want. I know a few people who got $76k scholarships to Texas with 169s.


Not t14

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby EdmundBurke23 » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:55 am

does anyone think that applying early helps in obtaining a scholarship? i never really thought about getting scholarships, but the idea is definitely beginning to sprout in my head.

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby northwood » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:59 am

I think it does.

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby Tangerine Gleam » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:15 am

EdmundBurke23 wrote:does anyone think that applying early helps in obtaining a scholarship? i never really thought about getting scholarships, but the idea is definitely beginning to sprout in my head.


Yes, without a doubt. Scholarships are like admission slots -- there are more available earlier in the cycle.

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:19 am

Tangerine Gleam wrote:
EdmundBurke23 wrote:does anyone think that applying early helps in obtaining a scholarship? i never really thought about getting scholarships, but the idea is definitely beginning to sprout in my head.


Yes, without a doubt. Scholarships are like admission slots -- there are more available earlier in the cycle.

Agreed. But do you think there is any merit to the argument that you can get additional money after the seat deposit deadline because money previously allocated to accepted students will open up if they do not put down the deposit and decide not attend (or students who withdrew)?

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby bdubs » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:24 am

Michigan with a 172+ will get you at least $45k, but you have to get in.

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Re: What LSAT do I need to get $$$$ from T14?

Postby thechee » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:28 am

164/170 and 3.6 got me around 45k from Penn, and over 50k from Duke.




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