Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby dpk711 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:59 pm

MrPapagiorgio wrote:Seriously though. We all caution people on this forum to avoid law school because of the legal market. Yet nearly all of us will be attending law school. Why do we seem to think we will succeed when we tell everyone else the likelihood of them succeeding is minuscule?


because I'm heading to a t14
8)

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby esq » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:00 pm

MrPapagiorgio wrote:Seriously though. We all caution people on this forum to avoid law school because of the legal market. Yet nearly all of us will be attending law school. Why do we seem to think we will succeed when we tell everyone else the likelihood of them succeeding is minuscule?

Cuz we r special

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby Knock » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:01 pm

MrPapagiorgio wrote:Seriously though. We all caution people on this forum to avoid law school because of the legal market. Yet nearly all of us will be attending law school. Why do we seem to think we will succeed when we tell everyone else the likelihood of them succeeding is minuscule?


Because we're assuming that most people here have done their research and are entering law school with full knowledge of the risks and have made an informed decision to attend. Plus TLS strongly encourages people to take scholarships and avoid paying sticker. Additionally, a lot of TLS posters have been accepted into the top schools, where the risk is less than at other schools.

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:01 pm

MrPapagiorgio wrote:Seriously though. We all caution people on this forum to avoid law school because of the legal market. Yet nearly all of us will be attending law school. Why do we seem to think we will succeed when we tell everyone else the likelihood of them succeeding is minuscule?

Most of the people that TLS as a whole tells not to go are people who have a very low chance of succeeding. Many of the people who are saying these things have a very high chance of succeeding (be it through quality of school, scholarships, and a propensity for high class rank).

Nobody here in law school *knows* they will succeed, they just like their chances given the available data and their personal situation. There's no real discrepancy here.

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:05 pm

Knock wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:Seriously though. We all caution people on this forum to avoid law school because of the legal market. Yet nearly all of us will be attending law school. Why do we seem to think we will succeed when we tell everyone else the likelihood of them succeeding is minuscule?


Because we're assuming that most people here have done their research and are entering law school with full knowledge of the risks and have made an informed decision to attend. Plus TLS strongly encourages people to take scholarships and avoid paying sticker. Additionally, a lot of TLS posters have been accepted into the top schools, where the risk is less than at other schools.


Yeah, doing the math, it is pretty damn unlikely I will be worse off by going to law school (other than the waste of time or if I turn out to hate the legal profession). For someone paying sticker at Valparaiso the odds are rather different.

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby ArthurDigbySellers » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:09 pm

And yet still no T14 acceptances so...I don't give a fuck.

Ha, merely joking-very interesting I guess
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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby ArthurDigbySellers » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:12 pm

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:Seriously though. We all caution people on this forum to avoid law school because of the legal market. Yet nearly all of us will be attending law school. Why do we seem to think we will succeed when we tell everyone else the likelihood of them succeeding is minuscule?

Most of the people that TLS as a whole tells not to go are people who have a very low chance of succeeding. Many of the people who are saying these things have a very high chance of succeeding (be it through quality of school, scholarships, and a propensity for high class rank).

Nobody here in law school *knows* they will succeed, they just like their chances given the available data and their personal situation. There's no real discrepancy here.


I'd like to use that as a segue into a piece of advice I like to hang my hat on. Well, more of a philosophy really. As my favorite high school teacher liked to say, "With low expectations, you'll never be disappointed. Only surprised." Truly, I tell you, it works.

If I could go back in time I would major in Comm. But I'd still have to live with myself, so...I guess I'm good.

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby ArthurDigbySellers » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:14 pm

A lot of people apply straight out of undergrad, part of it could be that the number of people in undergrad c/o 2011 is lower this year? I know undergrad apps spiked like a motherfucker the year after me, so maybe there'll be an increase next year. But 10% is still a huge drop, no question.

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby glitched » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:20 pm

dpk711 wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:Seriously though. We all caution people on this forum to avoid law school because of the legal market. Yet nearly all of us will be attending law school. Why do we seem to think we will succeed when we tell everyone else the likelihood of them succeeding is minuscule?


because I'm heading to a t14
8)



wait.. i thought we were going with t13...

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:22 pm

glitched wrote:
dpk711 wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:Seriously though. We all caution people on this forum to avoid law school because of the legal market. Yet nearly all of us will be attending law school. Why do we seem to think we will succeed when we tell everyone else the likelihood of them succeeding is minuscule?


because I'm heading to a t14
8)



wait.. i thought we were going with t13...

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please do not turn this thread into another argument about that. We have seen enough of those in the last 2 days.

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby dpk711 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:23 pm

glitched wrote:
dpk711 wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:Seriously though. We all caution people on this forum to avoid law school because of the legal market. Yet nearly all of us will be attending law school. Why do we seem to think we will succeed when we tell everyone else the likelihood of them succeeding is minuscule?


because I'm heading to a t14
8)



wait.. i thought we were going with t13...


well in that case -- because I'm heading to a t13

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:25 pm

MrPapagiorgio wrote:
glitched wrote:
dpk711 wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:Seriously though. We all caution people on this forum to avoid law school because of the legal market. Yet nearly all of us will be attending law school. Why do we seem to think we will succeed when we tell everyone else the likelihood of them succeeding is minuscule?


because I'm heading to a t14
8)



wait.. i thought we were going with t13...

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please do not turn this thread into another argument about that. We have seen enough of those in the last 2 days.

Seriously. We really just need to accept that it's T15 now and move on.

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby ArthurDigbySellers » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:25 pm

If you avoid schools that have T's in their name, you circumvent the obnoxious TTTrolling
STTTanford
GeorgeTTTown
WUSTTTL
TTTexas
VanderbilTTT
BoalTTT
MinnesoTTTa

But in all seriousness, Stanford is heartbreakingly beautiful. I would sell multiple organs to go there.

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:27 pm

ArthurDigbySellers wrote:If you avoid schools that have T's in their name, you circumvent the obnoxious TTTrolling
STTTanford
GeorgeTTTown
WUSTTTL
TTTexas
VanderbilTTT
BoalTTT
MinnesoTTTa

But in all seriousness, Stanford is heartbreakingly beautiful. I would sell multiple organs to go there.

NorthwesTTTern*

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby ArthurDigbySellers » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:27 pm

But the T14 isn't some platonic fucking form or anything. So Texas is tied with GULC. If this year really makes Texas a T14, the categorization was meaningless to begin with, i.e. T14 only had descriptive meaning (literally, the top 14) instead of some magical employment prospects that immediately end at 15 because of the number
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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby dpk711 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:28 pm

TTTexas in the T14 is a complete joke

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:29 pm

MrPapagiorgio wrote:Please, for the love of all that is holy, please do not turn this thread into another argument about that. We have seen enough of those in the last 2 days.

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby alexonfyre » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:30 pm

MrPapagiorgio wrote:Seriously though. We all caution people on this forum to avoid law school because of the legal market. Yet nearly all of us will be attending law school. Why do we seem to think we will succeed when we tell everyone else the likelihood of them succeeding is minuscule?


Because we have to scare everyone away so there are more jobs for us. Doesn't anyone fucking read the PM you get when your account is a year old any more?


MrPapagiorgio wrote:
ArthurDigbySellers wrote:If you avoid schools that have T's in their name, you circumvent the obnoxious TTTrolling
STTTanford
GeorgeTTTown
WUSTTTL
TTTexas
VanderbilTTT
BoalTTT
MinnesoTTTa

But in all seriousness, Stanford is heartbreakingly beautiful. I would sell multiple organs to go there.

NorthwesTTTern*


HarvarTTT
ChicaTTTgo
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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby ArthurDigbySellers » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:31 pm

alexonfyre wrote:the PM you get when your account is a year old any more?

wut

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby fakemoney » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:35 am

Brilliant. I'm sure JDU accounts for at least half that drop.

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby hokie » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:40 am

yay?

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby ArthurDigbySellers » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:46 am

fakemoney wrote:Brilliant. I'm sure JDU accounts for at least half that drop.


JDU is some scary shit.

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:03 am

ArthurDigbySellers wrote:
fakemoney wrote:Brilliant. I'm sure JDU accounts for at least half that drop.


JDU is some scary shit.

FTFY

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby ArthurDigbySellers » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:08 am

MrPapagiorgio wrote:
ArthurDigbySellers wrote:
fakemoney wrote:Brilliant. I'm sure JDU accounts for at least half that drop.


JDU is some scary shit.

FTFY


I make no claims about its veracity or quality, just that it's scary on multiple levels

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Re: Law School Apps Drop 11.5 Percent, a 10-Year Low

Postby ArthurDigbySellers » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:11 am

This should factor into everyone's decision

http://io9.com/#!5782361/where-did-batman-go-to-college




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