T13, T14, or T15 Forum
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24% of respondants go to GULC, 13% go to UT.
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In all seriousness (not just giving GULC shit right now),Desert Fox wrote:T13.
DNC are just as good as MVPB. You can't say that about UT or Gtown.
THIS is the credited response.
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LOL before StanfordDesert Fox wrote:Academia shouldn't be a factor because it's tiny part of the legal field. But even then it's Yale > Harvard > stanford > LOL > Uchi >> Mich > LOL ROTF > TTTAreJay711 wrote:I'm not really denying that but the post I was responding to said that lawyers always talk about the top 10 so it should be top 13 rather than top 14. There is some difference between top 10 and the rest of the top 13 in academia FWIW which matches rather nicely with the difference between CCN and placement at top vault firms. Idk if top 10 is that much off from top 6.Desert Fox wrote:Because their really isn't a discernible difference between any of the lower t13. Arbitrary cutting it off at 10 makes no sense.AreJay711 wrote:
Why would t13 be better? Top 10 would be better but not t13
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SOMEBODY has to teach IP, dude.cornellbeez wrote:LOL before StanfordDesert Fox wrote:Academia shouldn't be a factor because it's tiny part of the legal field. But even then it's Yale > Harvard > stanford > LOL > Uchi >> Mich > LOL ROTF > TTT
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- Malcolm8X
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Fixed.flcath wrote:In all seriousness (not just giving GULC shit right now),Desert Fox wrote:T13.
DNC are just as good as MVPB.You can't say that about UT or Gtown.
THIS is the credited response.
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Thank god this thread exists, or else where would we be recycling old, unfunny "TTT" jokes.
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http://leiterrankings.com/new/2011_LawTeachers.shtmlcornellbeez wrote:LOL before StanfordDesert Fox wrote:Academia shouldn't be a factor because it's tiny part of the legal field. But even then it's Yale > Harvard > stanford > LOL > Uchi >> Mich > LOL ROTF > TTTAreJay711 wrote:I'm not really denying that but the post I was responding to said that lawyers always talk about the top 10 so it should be top 13 rather than top 14. There is some difference between top 10 and the rest of the top 13 in academia FWIW which matches rather nicely with the difference between CCN and placement at top vault firms. Idk if top 10 is that much off from top 6.Desert Fox wrote:
Because their really isn't a discernible difference between any of the lower t13. Arbitrary cutting it off at 10 makes no sense.
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I’ll vote T-13, but I would have 100% picked T-10 if it were available.
I have always believed the T-14 ranking was odd, but then I read the history.....the same 14 schools have always been in the top 14. I bought into it‒but now this has changed, so let us get real with T-10. (Hopefully, they won’t place 11 schools in the Top 10!)
Also, no more ties, in a tie the school listed alphabetically is always listed first. Finally, when I say I am at a T-14 school, it sounds like I am going to the 14th ranked school. If I say I will be attending the 6th ranked school, most people will [accurately] assume that I am going to the 6th ranked school. C’mon folks, time for this generation to step up and promote changes that make sense!
I have always believed the T-14 ranking was odd, but then I read the history.....the same 14 schools have always been in the top 14. I bought into it‒but now this has changed, so let us get real with T-10. (Hopefully, they won’t place 11 schools in the Top 10!)
Also, no more ties, in a tie the school listed alphabetically is always listed first. Finally, when I say I am at a T-14 school, it sounds like I am going to the 14th ranked school. If I say I will be attending the 6th ranked school, most people will [accurately] assume that I am going to the 6th ranked school. C’mon folks, time for this generation to step up and promote changes that make sense!
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Renne Walker wrote:I’ll vote T-13, but I would have 100% picked T-10 if it were available.
I have always believed the T-14 ranking was odd, but then I read the history.....the same 14 schools have always been in the top 14. I bought into it‒but now this has changed, so let us get real with T-10. (Hopefully, they won’t place 11 schools in the Top 10!)
Also, no more ties, in a tie the school listed alphabetically is always listed first. Finally, when I say I am at a T-14 school, it sounds like I am going to the 14th ranked school. If I say I will be attending the 6th ranked school, most people will [accurately] assume that I am going to the 6th ranked school. C’mon folks, time for this generation to step up and promote changes that make sense!
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Who uses the T14 terminology in real life anyway? Aside from the fact that (a) all non-lawyers, (b) most practicing lawyers, and (c) many law students have no idea what you're talking about, unless you go to GULC, you're grouping your school in with deeply inferior schools.Renne Walker wrote:I’ll vote T-13, but I would have 100% picked T-10 if it were available.
I have always believed the T-14 ranking was odd, but then I read the history.....the same 14 schools have always been in the top 14. I bought into it‒but now this has changed, so let us get real with T-10. (Hopefully, they won’t place 11 schools in the Top 10!)
Also, no more ties, in a tie the school listed alphabetically is always listed first. Finally, when I say I am at a T-14 school, it sounds like I am going to the 14th ranked school. If I say I will be attending the 6th ranked school, most people will [accurately] assume that I am going to the 6th ranked school. C’mon folks, time for this generation to step up and promote changes that make sense!
That's not anti-GULC trolling; I'm serious. I can't imagine a CCN person talking about attending "a T14" anymore than I could imagine a HYP undergrad talking about attending "an R1 Carnegie research university." I mean, the term is useful on internet fora devoted to law school pissing contests, but the IRL opportunities for use are highly limited.
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Really? You aren't over this yet? You've been posting the same thing over and over for 2 days now. It's especially ridiculous to bump this thread again to say the same thing you said on each of the 3 previous pages.flcath wrote:Who uses the T14 terminology in real life anyway? Aside from the fact that (a) all non-lawyers, (b) most practicing lawyers, and (c) many law students have no idea what you're talking about, unless you go to GULC, you're grouping your school in with deeply inferior schools.Renne Walker wrote:I’ll vote T-13, but I would have 100% picked T-10 if it were available.
I have always believed the T-14 ranking was odd, but then I read the history.....the same 14 schools have always been in the top 14. I bought into it‒but now this has changed, so let us get real with T-10. (Hopefully, they won’t place 11 schools in the Top 10!)
Also, no more ties, in a tie the school listed alphabetically is always listed first. Finally, when I say I am at a T-14 school, it sounds like I am going to the 14th ranked school. If I say I will be attending the 6th ranked school, most people will [accurately] assume that I am going to the 6th ranked school. C’mon folks, time for this generation to step up and promote changes that make sense!
That's not anti-GULC trolling; I'm serious. I can't imagine a CCN person talking about attending "a T14" anymore than I could imagine a HYP undergrad talking about attending "an R1 Carnegie research university." I mean, the term is useful on internet fora devoted to law school pissing contests, but the IRL opportunities for use are highly limited.
Actually, I'll give you a little credit. You changed your words, just not your point.
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Did you mean to reply to this post?birdlaw117 wrote:Really? You aren't over this yet? You've been posting the same thing over and over for 2 days now. It's especially ridiculous to bump this thread again to say the same thing you said on each of the 3 previous pages.flcath wrote:Who uses the T14 terminology in real life anyway? Aside from the fact that (a) all non-lawyers, (b) most practicing lawyers, and (c) many law students have no idea what you're talking about, unless you go to GULC, you're grouping your school in with deeply inferior schools.Renne Walker wrote:I’ll vote T-13, but I would have 100% picked T-10 if it were available.
I have always believed the T-14 ranking was odd, but then I read the history.....the same 14 schools have always been in the top 14. I bought into it‒but now this has changed, so let us get real with T-10. (Hopefully, they won’t place 11 schools in the Top 10!)
Also, no more ties, in a tie the school listed alphabetically is always listed first. Finally, when I say I am at a T-14 school, it sounds like I am going to the 14th ranked school. If I say I will be attending the 6th ranked school, most people will [accurately] assume that I am going to the 6th ranked school. C’mon folks, time for this generation to step up and promote changes that make sense!
That's not anti-GULC trolling; I'm serious. I can't imagine a CCN person talking about attending "a T14" anymore than I could imagine a HYP undergrad talking about attending "an R1 Carnegie research university." I mean, the term is useful on internet fora devoted to law school pissing contests, but the IRL opportunities for use are highly limited.
Actually, I'll give you a little credit. You changed your words, just not your point.
I ask b/c the other night I was anti-GULC trolling hardcore (probably a dozen posts saying the same thing), and you would've been totally correct. Here I'm talking about, in real life, how ofter do say (or hear someone use) the "T14" terminology. I'm contending that it (and T13 or T15, if they catch on) are useful on TLS, XO, ATL, etc., but not in real-world conversations, where you'd just say the names of the schools involved.
If it makes you feel any better, I can't see why a YLS kid would talk about attending a T6, either. Does that example make you more comfortable?
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I'm not disagreeing with the point. I'm just against beating a dead horse.flcath wrote:Did you mean to reply to this post?birdlaw117 wrote:Really? You aren't over this yet? You've been posting the same thing over and over for 2 days now. It's especially ridiculous to bump this thread again to say the same thing you said on each of the 3 previous pages.flcath wrote:Who uses the T14 terminology in real life anyway? Aside from the fact that (a) all non-lawyers, (b) most practicing lawyers, and (c) many law students have no idea what you're talking about, unless you go to GULC, you're grouping your school in with deeply inferior schools.Renne Walker wrote:I’ll vote T-13, but I would have 100% picked T-10 if it were available.
I have always believed the T-14 ranking was odd, but then I read the history.....the same 14 schools have always been in the top 14. I bought into it‒but now this has changed, so let us get real with T-10. (Hopefully, they won’t place 11 schools in the Top 10!)
Also, no more ties, in a tie the school listed alphabetically is always listed first. Finally, when I say I am at a T-14 school, it sounds like I am going to the 14th ranked school. If I say I will be attending the 6th ranked school, most people will [accurately] assume that I am going to the 6th ranked school. C’mon folks, time for this generation to step up and promote changes that make sense!
That's not anti-GULC trolling; I'm serious. I can't imagine a CCN person talking about attending "a T14" anymore than I could imagine a HYP undergrad talking about attending "an R1 Carnegie research university." I mean, the term is useful on internet fora devoted to law school pissing contests, but the IRL opportunities for use are highly limited.
Actually, I'll give you a little credit. You changed your words, just not your point.
I ask b/c the other night I was anti-GULC trolling hardcore (probably a dozen posts saying the same thing), and you would've been totally correct. Here I'm talking about, in real life, how ofter do say (or hear someone use) the "T14" terminology. I'm contending that it (and T13 or T15, if they catch on) are useful on TLS, XO, ATL, etc., but not in real-world conversations, where you'd just say the names of the schools involved.
If it makes you feel any better, I can't see why a YLS kid would talk about attending a T6, either. Does that example make you more comfortable?
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You are on the WRONG discussion board, then.birdlaw117 wrote:I'm not disagreeing with the point. I'm just against beating a dead horse.
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xo is funny.XxSpyKEx wrote:Dumb, pointless thread is dumb and pointless. This thread is xoxo worthy.
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Yeah bro cuz MVPD is THAT much better than Northwestern/Cornell when Cornell/NU outplace at least two of those schools regularly in biglaw+article 3 clerkships+PI!Renne Walker wrote:I’ll vote T-13, but I would have 100% picked T-10 if it were available.
I have always believed the T-14 ranking was odd, but then I read the history.....the same 14 schools have always been in the top 14. I bought into it‒but now this has changed, so let us get real with T-10. (Hopefully, they won’t place 11 schools in the Top 10!)
Also, no more ties, in a tie the school listed alphabetically is always listed first. Finally, when I say I am at a T-14 school, it sounds like I am going to the 14th ranked school. If I say I will be attending the 6th ranked school, most people will [accurately] assume that I am going to the 6th ranked school. C’mon folks, time for this generation to step up and promote changes that make sense!
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There should be alot more advocacy on TLS for the idea that DNC is as good as MVP.whymeohgodno wrote:Yeah bro cuz MVPD is THAT much better than Northwestern/Cornell when Cornell/NU outplace at least two of those schools regularly in biglaw+article 3 clerkships+PI!Renne Walker wrote:I’ll vote T-13, but I would have 100% picked T-10 if it were available.
I have always believed the T-14 ranking was odd, but then I read the history.....the same 14 schools have always been in the top 14. I bought into it‒but now this has changed, so let us get real with T-10. (Hopefully, they won’t place 11 schools in the Top 10!)
Also, no more ties, in a tie the school listed alphabetically is always listed first. Finally, when I say I am at a T-14 school, it sounds like I am going to the 14th ranked school. If I say I will be attending the 6th ranked school, most people will [accurately] assume that I am going to the 6th ranked school. C’mon folks, time for this generation to step up and promote changes that make sense!
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I think the problem is the acronym for Duke, Northwestern, Cornell (DNC) is the same as the acronym for the Democratic National Committee. It's gonna rub some people the wrong way.flcath wrote:There should be alot more advocacy on TLS for the idea that DNC is as good as MVP.whymeohgodno wrote:Yeah bro cuz MVPD is THAT much better than Northwestern/Cornell when Cornell/NU outplace at least two of those schools regularly in biglaw+article 3 clerkships+PI!Renne Walker wrote:I’ll vote T-13, but I would have 100% picked T-10 if it were available.
I have always believed the T-14 ranking was odd, but then I read the history.....the same 14 schools have always been in the top 14. I bought into it‒but now this has changed, so let us get real with T-10. (Hopefully, they won’t place 11 schools in the Top 10!)
Also, no more ties, in a tie the school listed alphabetically is always listed first. Finally, when I say I am at a T-14 school, it sounds like I am going to the 14th ranked school. If I say I will be attending the 6th ranked school, most people will [accurately] assume that I am going to the 6th ranked school. C’mon folks, time for this generation to step up and promote changes that make sense!
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Also, "Do Not Contact"ScrabbleChamp wrote:I think the problem is the acronym for Duke, Northwestern, Cornell (DNC) is the same as the acronym for the Democratic National Committee. It's gonna rub some people the wrong way.flcath wrote:There should be alot more advocacy on TLS for the idea that DNC is as good as MVP.whymeohgodno wrote:Yeah bro cuz MVPD is THAT much better than Northwestern/Cornell when Cornell/NU outplace at least two of those schools regularly in biglaw+article 3 clerkships+PI!Renne Walker wrote:I’ll vote T-13, but I would have 100% picked T-10 if it were available.
I have always believed the T-14 ranking was odd, but then I read the history.....the same 14 schools have always been in the top 14. I bought into it‒but now this has changed, so let us get real with T-10. (Hopefully, they won’t place 11 schools in the Top 10!)
Also, no more ties, in a tie the school listed alphabetically is always listed first. Finally, when I say I am at a T-14 school, it sounds like I am going to the 14th ranked school. If I say I will be attending the 6th ranked school, most people will [accurately] assume that I am going to the 6th ranked school. C’mon folks, time for this generation to step up and promote changes that make sense!
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And "Dingos Need Children" for food.alexonfyre wrote:Also, "Do Not Contact"
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ScrabbleChamp wrote:And "Dingos Need Children" for food.alexonfyre wrote:Also, "Do Not Contact"
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DNC always makes me think of Planned Parenthood, this thread is stupid.ScrabbleChamp wrote:I think the problem is the acronym for Duke, Northwestern, Cornell (DNC) is the same as the acronym for the Democratic National Committee. It's gonna rub some people the wrong way.flcath wrote:There should be alot more advocacy on TLS for the idea that DNC is as good as MVP.whymeohgodno wrote:Yeah bro cuz MVPD is THAT much better than Northwestern/Cornell when Cornell/NU outplace at least two of those schools regularly in biglaw+article 3 clerkships+PI!Renne Walker wrote:I’ll vote T-13, but I would have 100% picked T-10 if it were available.
I have always believed the T-14 ranking was odd, but then I read the history.....the same 14 schools have always been in the top 14. I bought into it‒but now this has changed, so let us get real with T-10. (Hopefully, they won’t place 11 schools in the Top 10!)
Also, no more ties, in a tie the school listed alphabetically is always listed first. Finally, when I say I am at a T-14 school, it sounds like I am going to the 14th ranked school. If I say I will be attending the 6th ranked school, most people will [accurately] assume that I am going to the 6th ranked school. C’mon folks, time for this generation to step up and promote changes that make sense!
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