2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby fakemoney » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:42 am

Does anyone have the USNWR rankings done by law firms? It was listed as one of the specialty rankings that you have to pay for to get the top-100.

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby d34d9823 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:53 am

fakemoney wrote:Does anyone have the USNWR rankings done by law firms? It was listed as one of the specialty rankings that you have to pay for to get the top-100.

College name Score
Harvard University 4.9
Stanford University 4.8
Yale University 4.8
Columbia University 4.7
University of Michigan--Ann Arbor 4.7
New York University 4.6
University of Virginia 4.6
Cornell University 4.5
Duke University 4.5
Northwestern University 4.5
University of California--Berkeley 4.5
University of Chicago 4.5
Georgetown University 4.4
University of Pennsylvania 4.4
Vanderbilt University 4.3
Washington University in St. Louis 4.3
University of Texas--Austin 4.2
Boston University 4.1
Emory University 4.1
University of California--Los Angeles 4.1
University of Minnesota--Twin Cities 4.1
University of Notre Dame 4.1
University of Southern California (Gould) 4.1
Washington and Lee University 4.1
Boston College 4

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby TyrodTaylor » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:56 am

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby fakemoney » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:00 pm

d34dluk3 wrote:
fakemoney wrote:Does anyone have the USNWR rankings done by law firms? It was listed as one of the specialty rankings that you have to pay for to get the top-100.

College name Score
Harvard University 4.9
Stanford University 4.8
Yale University 4.8
Columbia University 4.7
University of Michigan--Ann Arbor 4.7
New York University 4.6
University of Virginia 4.6
Cornell University 4.5
Duke University 4.5
Northwestern University 4.5
University of California--Berkeley 4.5
University of Chicago 4.5
Georgetown University 4.4
University of Pennsylvania 4.4
Vanderbilt University 4.3
Washington University in St. Louis 4.3
University of Texas--Austin 4.2
Boston University 4.1
Emory University 4.1
University of California--Los Angeles 4.1
University of Minnesota--Twin Cities 4.1
University of Notre Dame 4.1
University of Southern California (Gould) 4.1
Washington and Lee University 4.1
Boston College 4


Thanks 8)

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby 005618502 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:01 pm

formerbiglawpartner wrote:Great news for UT which was already the top school in one of the top economies/legal markets in the country. Now it will expand its national range. UT should only continue moving up in these rankings (for what they are worth) under their new dean, formerly from NYU. He's positioning the school to be THE place for practice in Latin America, one of the main markets in the 21st century. Not sure if they've formally announced the program yet, but they have established a program with ITAM, one of the most prestigious universities in Mexico (Pres. Calderon went there) so that students can attend their third year yet graduate from UT. If you attend a second year at ITAM for law, you will be licensed in Mexico. They are looking at similar programs in Argentina and Brazil. As a project finance attorney, the only places you do deals where English doesn't govern the transaction documents are Spanish and Portuguese-speaking countries. Brilliant strategy on the part of UT Law!


That is true. And their Texas law review symposium was a success in my opinion. Great focus on Latin America and MANY experts coming in.

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby blacklawboss » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:24 pm

d34dluk3 wrote:
fakemoney wrote:Does anyone have the USNWR rankings done by law firms? It was listed as one of the specialty rankings that you have to pay for to get the top-100.

College name Score
Harvard University 4.9
Stanford University 4.8
Yale University 4.8
Columbia University 4.7
University of Michigan--Ann Arbor 4.7
New York University 4.6
University of Virginia 4.6
Cornell University 4.5
Duke University 4.5
Northwestern University 4.5
University of California--Berkeley 4.5
University of Chicago 4.5
Georgetown University 4.4
University of Pennsylvania 4.4
Vanderbilt University 4.3
Washington University in St. Louis 4.3
University of Texas--Austin 4.2
Boston University 4.1
Emory University 4.1
University of California--Los Angeles 4.1
University of Minnesota--Twin Cities 4.1
University of Notre Dame 4.1
University of Southern California (Gould) 4.1
Washington and Lee University 4.1
Boston College 4


I thought Fordham would have slid in the list

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby SisyphusHappy » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:01 pm

School clumpings by the new ratings:

Y
HS
CCN
MPBV
DNC
--
GTown-UT-UCLA-Vandy
USC-WUSTL-GW-Minn

Thoughts? Can we finally add BoalTTT to MVP and GeorgeTTTown to the super regionals? I think the point spreads make it pretty obvious. USC-WUSTL-GW-Minn have also really separated themselves from the rest of the T1 schools. Enough to make a new category?

Edited for fewer acronyms.
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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby Non-Chalant1 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:28 pm

You're trying to hard and your use of acronyms was momentarily confusing.

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Re: 2011 US NEWS RANKINGS RELEASED!!!!!

Postby HarlandBassett » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:49 pm

tea_drinker wrote:
law4vus wrote:Ugh, Emory dropped to 30?? FML


What happened to Emory?

spent too much on donuts.

http://abovethelaw.com/2010/07/emory-la ... need-jobs/

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby AreJay711 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:49 pm

SisyphusHappy wrote:School clumpings by the new ratings:

Y
HS
CCN
MPBV
DNC
--
GTUV
UWGM

Thoughts? Can we finally add BoalTTT to MVP and GeorgeTTTown to the super regionals? I think the point spreads make it pretty obvious. UWGM have also really separated themselves from the rest of the T1 schools. Enough to make a new category?


I think the Y | HS is pretty obnoxious. It isn't that much in a class of it's own but rather is has so much $ per student that it gets more points than Harvard and Stanford. The benefits of a small class size aren't enough for that IMO.

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby bk1 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:51 pm

AreJay711 wrote:I think the Y | HS is pretty obnoxious. It isn't that much in a class of it's own but rather is has so much $ per student that it gets more points than Harvard and Stanford. The benefits of a small class size aren't enough for that IMO.


Clerkships?

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby cornellbeez » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:51 pm

SisyphusHappy wrote:School clumpings by the new ratings:

Y
HS
CCN
MPBV
DNC
--
GTUV
UWGM

Thoughts? Can we finally add BoalTTT to MVP and GeorgeTTTown to the super regionals? I think the point spreads make it pretty obvious. UWGM have also really separated themselves from the rest of the T1 schools. Enough to make a new category?


Your screen name rocks.

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby dresden doll » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:07 pm

Thanks, USNWR, for finally justifying my faith in UT.

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby SisyphusHappy » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:10 pm

Non-Chalant1 wrote:You're trying to hard and your use of acronyms was momentarily confusing.


RE: Trying too hard. Isn't that what TLS is all about? We already categorize these groups, why not update them when Boalt and GTown implode and WUSTL, etc start pulling away from the pack?

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby SisyphusHappy » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:10 pm

cornellbeez wrote:
SisyphusHappy wrote:School clumpings by the new ratings:

Y
HS
CCN
MPBV
DNC
--
GTUV
UWGM

Thoughts? Can we finally add BoalTTT to MVP and GeorgeTTTown to the super regionals? I think the point spreads make it pretty obvious. UWGM have also really separated themselves from the rest of the T1 schools. Enough to make a new category?


Your screen name rocks.


Thanks. It's my anonymous internet handle of choice.

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby HarlandBassett » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:13 pm

fakemoney wrote:I just realized...

That 1L from the NYLS thread is gonna be pretty pissed that CUNY jumped 14 spots ahead of New York Law

:lol:

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby pasteurizedmilk » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:33 pm

The reliance on "raw score" for groupings seems misguided.

The goal of law school is to attain a position after graduation. Any factors that don't help you attain a job, clerkship, etc. are irrelevant. Thus, placement statistics and lawyer assessments are the only relevant criterion for "grouping" the law schools together.

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby d34d9823 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:44 pm

Lol it's already on Yahoo front page

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby rayiner » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:00 pm

pasteurizedmilk wrote:The only score they use that matters is lawyer assessment. I'm not willing to pay the money to see it though.


That score doesn't matter because the methodology is totally flawed.

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby rayiner » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:01 pm

AreJay711 wrote:
SisyphusHappy wrote:School clumpings by the new ratings:

Y
HS
CCN
MPBV
DNC
--
GTUV
UWGM

Thoughts? Can we finally add BoalTTT to MVP and GeorgeTTTown to the super regionals? I think the point spreads make it pretty obvious. UWGM have also really separated themselves from the rest of the T1 schools. Enough to make a new category?


I think the Y | HS is pretty obnoxious. It isn't that much in a class of it's own but rather is has so much $ per student that it gets more points than Harvard and Stanford. The benefits of a small class size aren't enough for that IMO.


Double the clerkship and triple the academia placement merit a category of its own.

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby blacklawboss » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:32 pm

HarlandBassett wrote:
fakemoney wrote:I just realized...

That 1L from the NYLS thread is gonna be pretty pissed that CUNY jumped 14 spots ahead of New York Law

:lol:


Exactly! you think he will want to transfer to CUNY?

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby pasteurizedmilk » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:33 pm

rayiner wrote:
pasteurizedmilk wrote:The only score they use that matters is lawyer assessment. I'm not willing to pay the money to see it though.


That score doesn't matter because the methodology is totally flawed.

Is it? What's their method? I'm not surprised. USNews rankings aren't quality.

I don't understand the obsession with them. The damage they cause to unwary law students is criminal.

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Re: 2011 US NEWS RANKINGS RELEASED!!!!!

Postby condra » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:28 pm

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Re: 2011 US NEWS RANKINGS RELEASED!!!!!

Postby YCrevolution » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:38 pm

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Re: 2012 US News & World Report Law School Rankings

Postby mettasutta » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:39 pm

Villanova plummeted to #84...karma's a bitch! :twisted:




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