Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby cmraider » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:21 pm

FeelTheHeat wrote:
CP2323 wrote:I didn't realize that people's only goal was BigLaw. There is name recognition that comes into play other then Big Law. Schools that are known nationally will be an asset to hiring. Maybe not in Big Law since they have their pick of the top 14, but national prestige comes into play when you want to move around the nation. You ask someone in Chicago, NYC, or any other market if they have heard of UF or FSU, they have heard of them. Same thing can't be said of Stetson.

That is the definition of having premiere college football teams.


FTFY.

This kind of debate was covered in this thread viewtopic.php?f=5&t=147103

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby TOMaHULK » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:22 pm

Even horrible schools have national prestige, even if it's for a not so great reason (brb-all Bush's staff from Regent) :D

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby CP2323 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:23 pm

FeelTheHeat wrote:
CP2323 wrote:I didn't realize that people's only goal was BigLaw. There is name recognition that comes into play other then Big Law. Schools that are known nationally will be an asset to hiring. Maybe not in Big Law since they have their pick of the top 14, but national prestige comes into play when you want to move around the nation. You ask someone in Chicago, NYC, or any other market if they have heard of UF or FSU, they have heard of them. Same thing can't be said of Stetson.

That is the definition of having premiere college football teams.


FTFY.


Even if they are only known for their college football teams it is still an asset to attend a school that is known.

Is it worth going over a T14 school? Of course not. But to say they aren't known nationally is just retarded. People here on TLS seem to get stuck in their narrow views. Top14 or no reason to go to school. Make 160K+ to start or there is no reason to go to school. Work in NYC, LA, Texas, Boston, DC, etc or there is no reason to go to school.

That is not what the majority of people want to do. :P

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby FeelTheHeat » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:23 pm

drummerboy wrote:ok how about miami as far as recognition


CP2323 wrote:People here on TLS seem to get stuck in their narrow views. Top14 or no reason to go to school. Make 160K+ to start or there is no reason to go to school. Work in NYC, LA, Texas, Boston, DC, etc or there is no reason to go to school.

That is not what the majority of people want to do. :P


Please read Rad's post. It has actual statistics and relevant information, unlike others who just say that Miami has "name recognition."

Next, go plug in $160,000 to a loan calculator and determine what your monthly payments will be.

Then, see how big a chunk of $40-60,000/year salary that kind of insane debt takes out. That is likely what you will be making, as Radlaw demonstrated the unlikelihood of scoring a biglaw job.

Research is your friend. Its not being narrow minded. Its awareness. We are trying to help. I am going to FSU because I have a good scholarship and have pretty minimal debt leaving. THUS, I can afford to take a $40,000-$50,000 job coming out and not have it devastate my finances. Please tell me you follow this logic. Otherwise, I give up.

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby nodummy » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:27 pm

FeelTheHeat wrote:
drummerboy wrote:ok how about miami as far as recognition


CP2323 wrote:People here on TLS seem to get stuck in their narrow views. Top14 or no reason to go to school. Make 160K+ to start or there is no reason to go to school. Work in NYC, LA, Texas, Boston, DC, etc or there is no reason to go to school.

That is not what the majority of people want to do. :P


Please read Rad's post. It has actual statistics and relevant information, unlike others who just say that Miami has "name recognition."

Next, go plug in $160,000 to a loan calculator and determine what your monthly payments will be.

Then, see how big a chunk of $40-60,000/year salary that kind of insane debt takes out. That is likely what you will be making, as Radlaw demonstrated the unlikelihood of scoring a biglaw job.

Research is your friend. Its not being narrow minded. Its awareness. We are trying to help. I am going to FSU because I have a good scholarship and have pretty minimal debt leaving. THUS, I can afford to take a $40,000-$50,000 job coming out and not have it devastate my finances. Please tell me you follow this logic. Otherwise, I give up.


Please detach your lips from Rad's balls.

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby CP2323 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:29 pm

That is where looking at the whole picture comes into play. A state school with in state tution like FSU or UF will always be a better choice then Miami or Stetson.

UF is about a third to a fourth the cost to attend Stetson or Miami. Plus it is now better known nationally then Miami or Stetson. (Miami would have a ton of name recognition back in the 1980s and early 1990s :P )

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby FeelTheHeat » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:32 pm

Good luck with your name recognition.
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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby CP2323 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:34 pm

Feeltheheat you seem to not understand what I am saying.

UF and FSU are better choices then Miami and Stetson.

UF and FSU are lower cost and better known nationally.

How are both of those statements not supported by fact?

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby FeelTheHeat » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:35 pm

CP2323 wrote:Feeltheheat you seem to not understand what I am saying.

UF and FSU are better choices then Miami and Stetson.

UF and FSU are lower cost and better known nationally.

How are both of those statements not supported by fact?


Not you, sir.

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby FeelTheHeat » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:37 pm

One more thing...

nodummy wrote: Really? How old are you? This kind of talk reminds me of first or second grade type shit on the playground.


nodummy wrote:
Please detach your lips from Rad's balls.

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:46 pm

CP2323 wrote:I didn't realize that people's only goal was BigLaw. There is name recognition that comes into play other then Big Law. Schools that are known nationally will be an asset to hiring. Maybe not in Big Law since they have their pick of the top 14, but national prestige comes into play when you want to move around the nation. You ask someone in Chicago, NYC, or any other market if they have heard of UF or FSU, they have heard of them. Same thing can't be said of Stetson.

That is the definition of being known nationally.

lay prestige =/= the kind of prestige that will get you hired out of law school bro

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby TOMaHULK » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:55 pm

Can we please get this thread back on track?

As posted in the OP, I didn't want this thread to turn into a "Go here or not at all thread" and I also don't want it to be a prestige thread.

Please just rank all the FL schools.

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby CP2323 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:08 pm

UF

FSU

Stetson (higher then Miami because it is also in an area with lower cost of living but pretty equal tuition cost)

Miami

Nothing else really worth attending. :mrgreen:

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby TOMaHULK » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:36 pm

CP2323 wrote:UF

FSU

Stetson (higher then Miami because it is also in an area with lower cost of living but pretty equal tuition cost)

Miami

Nothing else really worth attending. :mrgreen:


Thank you.

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby Grizz » Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:06 am

lol @ name recognition. Yeah, people in Chi know what UF is. Too bad they don't hire from there.

TOMaHULK wrote:Please just rank all the FL schools.


UF
FSU
Miami/Stetson (pick Tampa Bay or Miami-Dade)

Others are not worth ranking.

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby rman1201 » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:57 pm

This thread is filled with all kinds of stupid. I attended UFs ASD and its own faculty admitted its a regional school and wont take you far out of the state (or southeast region at most).

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby SrLaw » Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:04 pm

1. UF
2. Florida State
3. Miami (FL)
4. Ave Maria
5. Stetson
6. St. Thomas
7. Florida A&M
8. Florida Coastal
9. Barry
10. Nova Southeastern
11. Florida International

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby DeeCee » Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:47 pm

Purely my opinion here......

1. University of Florida
2. Florida State
3. University of Miami
4. Stetson (if you plan to stay in Tampa only)
5. Florida International (substantial, un-stipulated scholarship only, and only
if you plan to stay in the area)

Don't bother with the following T4s:
Florida Coastal (BAD--owned by the people who own Charlotte School of Law and Phoenix)
Barry
Ave Maria (horrible, horrible school from what I've read)
Nova Southeastern
Florida A & M
St.Thomas University

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby TOMaHULK » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:06 am

SrLaw wrote:1. UF
2. Florida State
3. Miami (FL)
4. Ave Maria
5. Stetson
6. St. Thomas
7. Florida A&M
8. Florida Coastal
9. Barry
10. Nova Southeastern
11. Florida International


Just curious...Ave Maria above Stetson? Really?

Also-St.Thomas above FIU?

Can you discuss more please?

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby TOMaHULK » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:07 am

rman1201 wrote:This thread is filled with all kinds of stupid. I attended UFs ASD and its own faculty admitted its a regional school and wont take you far out of the state (or southeast region at most).


Do people at UF Law make fun of the other state schools law program?

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:08 am

TOMaHULK wrote:
SrLaw wrote:1. UF
2. Florida State
3. Miami (FL)
4. Ave Maria
5. Stetson
6. St. Thomas
7. Florida A&M
8. Florida Coastal
9. Barry
10. Nova Southeastern
11. Florida International


Just curious...Ave Maria above Stetson? Really?

Also-St.Thomas above FIU?

Can you discuss more please?

There's no reason to elaborate. There is absolutely no logic behind putting Ave Maria in front of Stetson.

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby DeeCee » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:09 am

TOMaHULK wrote:Just curious...Ave Maria above Stetson? Really?

Also-St.Thomas above FIU?

Can you discuss more please?


tomahulk, I agree with you. Stetson and FIU are much better options than St. Thomas and Ave Maria.

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby TOMaHULK » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:10 am

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:
TOMaHULK wrote:
SrLaw wrote:1. UF
2. Florida State
3. Miami (FL)
4. Ave Maria
5. Stetson
6. St. Thomas
7. Florida A&M
8. Florida Coastal
9. Barry
10. Nova Southeastern
11. Florida International


Just curious...Ave Maria above Stetson? Really?

Also-St.Thomas above FIU?

Can you discuss more please?

There's no reason to elaborate. There is absolutely no logic behind putting Ave Maria in front of Stetson.


I'm just curious about the whole ranking that he gave. Would like him to discuss. SRS

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby FeelTheHeat » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:13 am

If this isn't a flame, I'd seriously like to know why the OP doesn't just say the schools he is considering. I can assure you I am not changing my mind, nor is anyone else, when it comes to what they think the quality of schools are in Florida.

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Re: Please rank Florida Law Schools for me.

Postby TOMaHULK » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:14 am

FeelTheHeat wrote:If this isn't a flame, I'd seriously like to know why the OP doesn't just say the schools he is considering. I can assure you I am not changing my mind, nor is anyone else, when it comes to what they think the quality of schools are in Florida.


How have I attempted to change your mind once? How has anything I said been in support of any school? I merely asked people to rank them. The above poster had an interesting list and I asked him to discuss. That's all.




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