Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

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Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby Ash;-) » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:24 am

Hi guys

Just got accepted to loyola with 30k/year and pepperdine with 20k/year.... Now I'm not sure which one to pick. I rather go to a less competitive school and I like both. I would appreciate inputs specially if you are attending one of them....

Thanks in advance

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby 1ferret! » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:57 am

The two schools really have a different character to them. I encourage you to spend several hours visiting each...sit in on classes...meet some students in the common areas....and talk to them about their experiences in the areas you care about.
The locations are very different, class sizes are very different.

There really isn't a great deal of competition at Pepperdine. Everyone goes out of their way to help each other out, the Professors and Deans Suite included.
There is a curve of course, and some people will be more competitive than others. However, that personality type doesn't really come across in an obnoxious way.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby bk1 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:02 am

I'd expect the competition is similar between them.

These schools are fairly comparable so follow the money.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby fragged » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:53 am

FWIW, I have spoken to a lot of students from both schools, and I find a disproportionately high number of students from Loyola claim they absolutely loved their law school experience.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby Gatriel » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:14 am

I'm a 1L at Pepperdine and absolutely love my law school experience here.

Have you visited the schools yet?

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby jeremysen » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:19 am

Ash;-) wrote:Hi guys

Just got accepted to loyola with 30k/year and pepperdine with 20k/year.... Now I'm not sure which one to pick. I rather go to a less competitive school and I like both. I would appreciate inputs specially if you are attending one of them....

Thanks in advance


I'm pretty sure Pepperdine is in Malibu. And in case you haven't visited Malibu, it's basically one of the relaxing spots in Cali - it's a surf city.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby gothamm » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:32 am

loyola seems to have better job prospects and a better alum network.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby jeremysen » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:51 am

gothamm wrote:loyola seems to have better job prospects and a better alum network.


i wouldn't base my school decision on "seems to have better [employment]" though.

you can easily find that data either online or by phone, OP.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby gothamm » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:58 am

jeremysen wrote:
gothamm wrote:loyola seems to have better job prospects and a better alum network.


i wouldn't base my school decision on "seems to have better [employment]" though.

you can easily find that data either online or by phone, OP.


online data and phone call? you can't be serious.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby AboveTheLawSchool » Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:32 am

Also pepperdine is known for being a "conservative" school, not sure about loyola, so your personal political beliefs could come into play here

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby Ash;-) » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:03 pm

A little more info about me to see if it would help narrow the choices better: I would like to go into private practice and going to conservative school would not present any issues for me. In addition I don't really care about the school having a nice campus or being next to the sea...

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby NorCalBruin » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:38 pm

Ash;-) wrote:A little more info about me to see if it would help narrow the choices better: I would like to go into private practice and going to conservative school would not present any issues for me. In addition I don't really care about the school having a nice campus or being next to the sea...


Ok. I get that job prospects are paramount. I understand that career should be your number one focus... but c'mon! This is where you will be spending three years of your life! You SHOULD care about the location and campus... at least a little. I say that mostly because Loyola and Pepperdine's locations and facilities are VERY different. Many people who would be happy at one would not be happy at the other. So let us know what you're looking for. I would be happy to elaborate further on their differences.

That said, I wouldn't worry about the "conservative" thing at all. I don't think it's overbearing. It's probably not overbearing unless you go to Regent or maybe BYU. Even then, everyone in law school is mature (or more mature) and should be more sensible about politics and religion anyway.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby beachbum » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:42 pm

NorCalBruin wrote:That said, I wouldn't worry about the "conservative" thing at all. I don't think it's overbearing.


Yeah, it's all fun and games until you get caught drinking and/or having sex on campus.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby HopefulFish » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:39 pm

Pepperdine is the Regent Law of Westcoast.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby bk1 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:49 pm

HopefulFish wrote:Pepperdine is the Regent Law of Westcoast.


This is not even remotely true.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby amers73 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:50 pm

fragged wrote:FWIW, I have spoken to a lot of students from both schools, and I find a disproportionately high number of students from Loyola claim they absolutely loved their law school experience.


+1

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby 99.9luft » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:53 pm

Loyola

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby jeremysen » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:55 pm

gothamm wrote:
jeremysen wrote:
gothamm wrote:loyola seems to have better job prospects and a better alum network.


i wouldn't base my school decision on "seems to have better [employment]" though.

you can easily find that data either online or by phone, OP.


online data and phone call? you can't be serious.


sure beats "seems to have better job prospects"

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby bk1 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:58 pm

jeremysen wrote:
gothamm wrote:online data and phone call? you can't be serious.


sure beats "seems to have better job prospects"


LST has them as pretty damn comparable for the class of 2008.

I also doubt that admissions offices are willing to give up info that readily, or that the necessarily have that info.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby gothamm » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:08 pm

bk1 wrote:
jeremysen wrote:
gothamm wrote:online data and phone call? you can't be serious.


sure beats "seems to have better job prospects"


LST has them as pretty damn comparable for the class of 2008.

I also doubt that admissions offices are willing to give up info that readily, or that the necessarily have that info.


or that the info law schools post is necessarily accurate.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby bk1 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:13 pm

gothamm wrote:or that the info law schools post is necessarily accurate.


I don't think they necessarily lie (with some exceptions, e.g. Villanova or whatever it was), but they do obscure the truth. I mean "median salary of 100k" is probably accurate, even if the footnote says "median salary of 100k for the 30% of the class that is in private practice with only 75% of them reporting salary info."

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby Ash;-) » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:24 pm

does anyone knows in comparison which school is less competitive and in which one students have to work less to get to the top 30% of the class... lol

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby bk1 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:32 pm

Ash;-) wrote:does anyone knows in comparison which school is less competitive and in which one students have to work less to get to the top 30% of the class... lol


Probably not a large difference between the two.

Honestly for you I'd choose on atmosphere if cost is equal. If you enjoy attending the school more then you are likely to do better on exams than if you went to a school you enjoyed less. If cost isn't close, then go to the cheaper one.

Another thing, if cost is close choose the one with the looser stipulations on your scholarship.

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby Ash;-) » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:50 pm

loyola gives me $30k per year for 3 years and pepperdine $20k per year for 3 years. i have to stay in top 30% of the class that they will renew my scholarship for the 2nd and 3rd year [both schools]. that is why i though the school with the easier curve would offer more assurance in getting the money for the 2nd and 3rd year. in addition if i go to loyola i could stay at home and don't have to move which will at the minimum saves me about $12k per year. but for pepperdine have to move to malibu and pay rent.

any comments now base on the new info?

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Re: Choosing b/w pepperdine and loyola

Postby bk1 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:56 pm

Ash;-) wrote:loyola gives me $30k per year for 3 years and pepperdine $20k per year for 3 years. i have to stay in top 30% of the class that they will renew my scholarship for the 2nd and 3rd year [both schools]. that is why i though the school with the easier curve would offer more assurance in getting the money for the 2nd and 3rd year. in addition if i go to loyola i could stay at home and don't have to move which will at the minimum saves me about $12k per year. but for pepperdine have to move to malibu and pay rent.

any comments now base on the new info?


Loyola for sure if you don't mind living at home. The difference in cost is huge.




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