Aqualibrium wrote:Dude, if you seriously believe that blatantly lying to the aba wont add a stain to the Villanova name in the minds of employers, you really don't understand how the human mind works. Whatever adverse effect comes out of this will probably be felt least in Delaware and Philly, where Nova has established relationships and strong alumni. However, one of the firsts thing that will come to the mind of employers in places where Nova doesn't have those strong ties is this scandal. That certainly won't help any Nova student to get a job.
Reputation matters, and when the reputation that precedes you is a negative one, it matters more.
I understand your reluctance to acknowledge this. Especially since you really won't be stung by it. The people that will be are those who are right now searching for jobs, or who will be searching in the next two years or so. It's undeniable that this sort of negative press is bad. The very fact that your dean had to get on the phone with firms and explain/grovel/seek assurances that relationships wouldn't change illustrates that point.
I'm also a student at Villanova Law School.
I do agree with you that any damage to VLS’s reputation will most likely be felt strongest outside of the Philadelphia/Wilmington region. However, I honestly don’t think that the scandal is so severe that it cannot be effectively addressed through disclosure and explanation. CChuff’s post accurately explained the circumstances surrounding the scandal. I also think that CChuff is correct that only time will tell the full repercussions.
I personally think, for VLS students, the most redeeming element of the scandal is that it involved inflating the LSAT and GPA stats of incoming students, NOT the law school grades of current/graduating students. VLS has not inflated the grading curve for its current students and thus student law school grades are still as accurate a representation of a student’s effort and ability as they would be had there not been any scandal. Based on my experience GPA and personal connections are the most important factors for getting a job. The scandal has not affected either for any current VLS students or future VLS students.
As a student I’m angry that I am even in the position of feeling like I have to address this situation, but I think Dean Gotanda’s actions have been exemplary. We have been told by the administration and faculty that only the incoming LSAT and GPA stats were tampered with, and the individuals who were responsible have been removed. I honestly believe it. There is an independent audit to discover the extent of the scandal and there is also an independent audit to investigate all of the actions of former Dean Sargent. I highly doubt that Dean Gotanda and the administration lack the foresight to know that if they attempt to cover anything up it will be discovered by one of the audits and it will just exacerbate the current situation.
The fact that Dean Gotanda is on the phone seeking assurances that students will still be given the same opportunity illustrates more, in my eyes, his desire to be proactive in addressing the concerns of students than proof that the ability of VLS students to get jobs will be severely diminished.
The bottom line is that the speculation cannot be put to rest until the audits are complete and the full extent of the scandal is disclosed. However, as a student, I honestly don’t think that the scandal will have negative effects as severe as have been described by some on this forum.
I understand that some people, even fellow VLS students, may disagree with me. For prospective law students, I would say use all of the information you can get, including information about the scandal, to make the decision that’s best for you and if you don't feel comfortable choosing VLS because of the events of the scandal, choose another school that better fits your needs.