Why doesn't this school get brought up?

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NorCalBruin
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Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby NorCalBruin » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:31 pm

San Joaquin College of Law?

http://www.sjcl.edu/

Any thoughts on it? I didn't even know about it until recently. And it can't be that it's poorly ranked, because plenty of poorly ranked schools get brought up here a lot.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby Lawquacious » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:33 pm

Because it is not ABA accredited, so technically it's not even poorly ranked.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby gens1tb » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:39 pm

That's an interesting logical progression you have there in your post..

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby NorCalBruin » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:41 pm

I heard about it because one of my friends is going there...

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby duckmoney » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:42 pm

If you try hard enough, once it gets accredited you could make it the next Cooley.

Cooley really does have an unfair reputation around here. We make it out to be the worst law school in the country, when in reality almost all of the other T4 schools are just as awful.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby mpj_3050 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:45 pm

Looked at the link provide - $800 per unit, 86 units required for degree. So nearly 70k in tuition, wow.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby Stanford4Me » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:48 pm

duckmoney wrote:If you try hard enough, once it gets accredited you could make it the next Cooley.

Cooley really does have an unfair reputation around here. We make it out to be the worst law school in the country, when in reality almost all of the other T4 schools are just as awful.

Cooley only gets crap because they released their own ranking system that ranks them above a lot of schools in the T20.

Also, OP, I like your line of reasoning there.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby cowgirl_bebop » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:51 pm

duckmoney wrote:If you try hard enough, once it gets accredited you could make it the next Cooley.

Cooley really does have an unfair reputation around here. We make it out to be the worst law school in the country, when in reality almost all of the other T4 schools are just as awful.


The thing with Cooley is that they have the audacity to produce their own rankings which puts them as 12th in the nation. They have the nerve to rank Stanford as 18th, GWU as 10th, and Vandy as 43rd. Their wackjobs who charge way too much for a crappy education at a crappy school. People dont rag on schools like FAMU or Golden Gate as much because they dont make a big stink about being TTTTs

To the OP: I dont think TLSers are going to bother talking about non ABA accredited schools. In many states you have to go to an ABA school to even sit for the bar, so why pay all that money to go to a school that puts a serious cap on your upward potential?

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby blurbz » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:52 pm

I love that when you click on the "Law Jobs" tab on their website it says "This resource cannot be found." At least they're honest...

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby prezidentv8 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:57 pm

blurbz wrote:I love that when you click on the "Law Jobs" tab on their website it says "This resource cannot be found." At least they're honest...


That is absolutely brilliant.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby cowgirl_bebop » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:04 pm

prezidentv8 wrote:
blurbz wrote:I love that when you click on the "Law Jobs" tab on their website it says "This resource cannot be found." At least they're honest...


That is absolutely brilliant.


The accept students who have not even obtained so much as an associates degree. No wonder there are not jobs to be found coming out of there :roll:

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby NorCalBruin » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:35 pm

NorCalBruin wrote:I heard about it because one of my friends is going there...


Whoops for him!

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby jwrash » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:47 pm

NorCalBruin wrote:And it can't be that it's poorly ranked, because plenty of poorly ranked schools get brought up here a lot.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby General Tso » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:29 pm

well I got canned at a firm that hires from there, so what does that say about me? one of my interviewers was a partner and attended San Joaquin.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby retake » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:47 pm

It's not T14, and therefore not a real law school.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby Adjudicator » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:52 pm

retake wrote:It's not T14, and therefore also not a real law school.


You were close. FTFY.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby kings84_wr » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:49 pm

General Tso wrote:well I got canned at a firm that hires from there, so what does that say about me? one of my interviewers was a partner and attended San Joaquin.


Don't feel too bad, i got rejected from two callbacks at fresno firms and I have strong ties to the area and worked for a fed judge in the damn city.

To the main topic of the thread, SJ is actually not that bad. They have a 60% bar passage rate last july, and most their students are a lot more grounded about career options, basically all want to work for Fresno area smaller firms.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby r6_philly » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:54 pm

cowgirl_bebop wrote:The accept students who have not even obtained so much as an associates degree. No wonder there are not jobs to be found coming out of there :roll:



Some may say that's one of the benefits of not being accredited.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby Aggiegrad2011 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:57 pm

I really like how, on the grading scale I found in their brochure, you can get a 55-64 and it's called "inadequate, but passing."

You pass inadequate work??? Huh????

lol.

Edit: Gotta love their 60% bar pass rate. Guess that's not too bad given their unaccredited status, though? D:

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby r6_philly » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:04 pm

Aggiegrad2011 wrote:Edit: Gotta love their 60% bar pass rate. Guess that's not too bad given their unaccredited status, though? D:


That's actually not bad for CA. :)

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby Aggiegrad2011 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:05 pm

r6_philly wrote:
Aggiegrad2011 wrote:Edit: Gotta love their 60% bar pass rate. Guess that's not too bad given their unaccredited status, though? D:


That's actually not bad for CA. :)


Yeah, I guess it's just ~20% less than UCLA. Could be worse!

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby r6_philly » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:07 pm

Aggiegrad2011 wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
Aggiegrad2011 wrote:Edit: Gotta love their 60% bar pass rate. Guess that's not too bad given their unaccredited status, though? D:


That's actually not bad for CA. :)


Yeah, I guess it's just ~20% less than UCLA. Could be worse!


What about the lesser CA schools? If bar passage rate is comparable to those, it actually makes TTT ABA schools look worse.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby kings84_wr » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:12 pm

Its above Golden gate/Whittier/Thomas Jefferson/Southwestern and significantly less cost.

Edit to add link if anyone is interested

http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=ECWYhV4t0wE=&tabid=2269

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby General Tso » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:15 pm

kings84_wr wrote:Its above Golden gate/Whittier/Thomas Jefferson/Southwestern and significantly less cost.


true, but most CBA schools have abysmal bar passage rates. only 20% of CBA grads passed the bar in 2010. The exceptions are San Joaquin (62%), Monterey (67%) and Glendale (55%). Many of those schools had 0-10% passage rates.

http://www.protectconsumerjustice.org/2 ... ool-2.html

I know one guy from SF Law School (not USF) who has failed the bar 6 or 7 times already.

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Re: Why doesn't this school get brought up?

Postby kings84_wr » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:22 pm

Yeah I agree most of the schools are ridiculous. I think its insane to have a non-aba accredited school in a market like SF/LA/OC/SD where there are already tons of law schools (that probably should not be around either).

The fresno area may be crushed by the economy and not the greatest place to live, but it is the 5th largest city in CA and has no law school.




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