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T3 rankings?

Postby ineptimusprime » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:35 pm

This is probably a very naive question.

I just had an e-mail exchange with a law school where they claimed they were ranked #120-something. I know the rankings between 100-the end aren't published, but do schools have the rankings?

If so, has this list been leaked? I'd like to see it.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby FeelTheHeat » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:37 pm

Leaked? The rankings aren't exactly a new music album or Apple product.

But to answer your question, no. There is talk of ranking them but as of now no such thing has been done.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby gdane » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:45 pm

Being #120ish is nothing to be proud of. Disregard any TTT rankings.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby jwaters » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:04 pm

The rankings after 100 aren't published, but individual schools can contact USNWR and find out their exact rank in the T3 or T4.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby dr123 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:06 pm

I wonder what school is 101, they must be pissed.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby VTarmyjag » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:30 pm

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby BrownBears09 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:40 pm

VTarmyjag wrote:
gdane wrote:Being #120ish is nothing to be proud of. Disregard any TTT rankings.


So is there a difference between #100 and #101?


Is there a difference between any consecutive ranks? (i.e. 1 compared to 2, 50 compared to 51, 75 compared to 76)

Besides maybe 14 to 15 (due to the T14 prestige) I highly doubt there's much difference.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby gdane » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:29 am

BrownBears09 wrote:
VTarmyjag wrote:
gdane wrote:Being #120ish is nothing to be proud of. Disregard any TTT rankings.


So is there a difference between #100 and #101?


Is there a difference between any consecutive ranks? (i.e. 1 compared to 2, 50 compared to 51, 75 compared to 76)

Besides maybe 14 to 15 (due to the T14 prestige) I highly doubt there's much difference.

The number rankings arent as important as the school cluster rankings. Its generally accepted that this ranking is what matters:

HYS
CCN

Mid T14's



Cornell/Georgetown


After that, its mainly regional. Hell, aside from HYS, some of the T14 schools are regional.

Dont get too hung up on rankings. There isnt much difference betweem #55 and #60 or #95 and #100. The two most important things to look at are employment prospects and cost.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:40 am

gdane wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
VTarmyjag wrote:
gdane wrote:Being #120ish is nothing to be proud of. Disregard any TTT rankings.


So is there a difference between #100 and #101?


Is there a difference between any consecutive ranks? (i.e. 1 compared to 2, 50 compared to 51, 75 compared to 76)

Besides maybe 14 to 15 (due to the T14 prestige) I highly doubt there's much difference.

The number rankings arent as important as the school cluster rankings. Its generally accepted that this ranking is what matters:

HYS
CCN

Mid T14's



Cornell/Georgetown


After that, its mainly regional. Hell, aside from HYS, some of the T14 schools are regional.

Dont get too hung up on rankings. There isnt much difference betweem #55 and #60 or #95 and #100. The two most important things to look at are employment prospects and cost.


Well said. If T14 is impossible, go to the school that gives you the best chances at gainful employment as a lawyer. Cost should be of equal importance.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby BrownBears09 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:00 am

gdane wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
VTarmyjag wrote:
gdane wrote:Being #120ish is nothing to be proud of. Disregard any TTT rankings.


So is there a difference between #100 and #101?


Is there a difference between any consecutive ranks? (i.e. 1 compared to 2, 50 compared to 51, 75 compared to 76)

Besides maybe 14 to 15 (due to the T14 prestige) I highly doubt there's much difference.

The number rankings arent as important as the school cluster rankings. Its generally accepted that this ranking is what matters:

HYS
CCN

Mid T14's



Cornell/Georgetown


After that, its mainly regional. Hell, aside from HYS, some of the T14 schools are regional.

Dont get too hung up on rankings. There isnt much difference betweem #55 and #60 or #95 and #100. The two most important things to look at are employment prospects and cost.


My post was in jest, but I agree with yours.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby TheThreader » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:22 am

gdane wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
VTarmyjag wrote:
gdane wrote:Being #120ish is nothing to be proud of. Disregard any TTT rankings.


So is there a difference between #100 and #101?


Is there a difference between any consecutive ranks? (i.e. 1 compared to 2, 50 compared to 51, 75 compared to 76)

Besides maybe 14 to 15 (due to the T14 prestige) I highly doubt there's much difference.

The number rankings arent as important as the school cluster rankings. Its generally accepted that this ranking is what matters:

HYS
CCN

Mid T14's



Cornell/Georgetown


After that, its mainly regional. Hell, aside from HYS, some of the T14 schools are regional.

Dont get too hung up on rankings. There isnt much difference betweem #55 and #60 or #95 and #100. The two most important things to look at are employment prospects and cost.


really. I think you can put vandy/texas/ucla/ and maybe usc above the rest in a final tier

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby Concept » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:05 am

Picture the USNews rankings a white/black gradient on your screen.

On one end, you see pure white. On the other, pure black. Pick a point near the white, and there may not be a huge difference. Same thing applies for the other end of the gradient. But pick the beginning and the end of the gradient, and there's a huge difference.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby reasonable_man » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:08 am

There is very little difference between #40 and #120, let alone between 110 and 135. At a certain point, you're comparing bronze covered dog shit to copper coverd dog shit... One might shine a little brighter than the other, but at the end of the day, the core of each is still dog shit.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby Concept » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:24 pm

reasonable_man wrote:There is very little difference between #40 and #120, let alone between 110 and 135. At a certain point, you're comparing bronze covered dog shit to copper coverd dog shit... One might shine a little brighter than the other, but at the end of the day, the core of each is still dog shit.


Lol. There's an enormous difference between University of Florida and Howard University School of Law.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby reasonable_man » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:26 pm

Concept wrote:
reasonable_man wrote:There is very little difference between #40 and #120, let alone between 110 and 135. At a certain point, you're comparing bronze covered dog shit to copper coverd dog shit... One might shine a little brighter than the other, but at the end of the day, the core of each is still dog shit.


Lol. There's an enormous difference between University of Florida and Howard University School of Law.



You sure about that?

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby Concept » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:28 pm

reasonable_man wrote:
Concept wrote:
reasonable_man wrote:There is very little difference between #40 and #120, let alone between 110 and 135. At a certain point, you're comparing bronze covered dog shit to copper coverd dog shit... One might shine a little brighter than the other, but at the end of the day, the core of each is still dog shit.


Lol. There's an enormous difference between University of Florida and Howard University School of Law.



You sure about that?


Yes.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby Gotti » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:42 pm

Concept wrote:
reasonable_man wrote:
Concept wrote:
reasonable_man wrote:There is very little difference between #40 and #120, let alone between 110 and 135. At a certain point, you're comparing bronze covered dog shit to copper coverd dog shit... One might shine a little brighter than the other, but at the end of the day, the core of each is still dog shit.


Lol. There's an enormous difference between University of Florida and Howard University School of Law.



You sure about that?


Yes.


+1

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby androstan » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:26 pm

Concept wrote:Picture the USNews rankings a white/black gradient on your screen.

On one end, you see pure white. On the other, pure black. Pick a point near the white, and there may not be a huge difference. Same thing applies for the other end of the gradient. But pick the beginning and the end of the gradient, and there's a huge difference.


I like this, this is a pretty good illustration for individuals new to the rankings and wondering "How much do X spots matter?"

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby BrownBears09 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:01 pm

reasonable_man wrote:There is very little difference between #40 and #120, let alone between 110 and 135. At a certain point, you're comparing bronze covered dog shit to copper coverd dog shit... One might shine a little brighter than the other, but at the end of the day, the core of each is still dog shit.

LoL.

-1.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby SrLaw » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:05 pm

reasonable_man wrote:There is very little difference between #40 and #120, let alone between 110 and 135. At a certain point, you're comparing bronze covered dog shit to copper coverd dog shit... One might shine a little brighter than the other, but at the end of the day, the core of each is still dog shit.



are you high?

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby ClayDavis » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:05 pm

reasonable_man wrote:
Concept wrote:
reasonable_man wrote:There is very little difference between #40 and #120, let alone between 110 and 135. At a certain point, you're comparing bronze covered dog shit to copper coverd dog shit... One might shine a little brighter than the other, but at the end of the day, the core of each is still dog shit.


Lol. There's an enormous difference between University of Florida and Howard University School of Law.



You sure about that?

yea. Howard really is that much better.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby androstan » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:29 pm

reasonable_man wrote:There is very little difference between #40 and #120, let alone between 110 and 135. At a certain point, you're comparing bronze covered dog shit to copper coverd dog shit... One might shine a little brighter than the other, but at the end of the day, the core of each is still dog shit.


15ish (some say 13ish) through 25ish are mostly top dog (first tier) regionals and are only outclassed in their region by the t14 (t12?). They even have some national placement. They are in second place behind the t14 (t12?) in their region.

25ish through 50ish are typically strong regionals but will not help you get a job outside that region. They are a mix of first and second tier regionals.

50ish through 100ish contains a mix of a few strong regionals and mostly "second/third tier" regionals. i.e. a few are the first tier regional school in their region but most are the second or third pick regional school in their region.

Below 100 you are universally looking at second, third, or fourth pick regionals. If you can't break into the t14 (t12?), find a sub-100 ranked school in the region you want to practice that is only outplaced in its region by a single other regional school, and can get get it paid for by some means other than significant loans, that can be a good option.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby reasonable_man » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:50 pm

Its sad that the USNWR allows college kids to actually believe that there is a true difference in the 50 rank vs the 100 rank.

Is there a difference between T14 and T25... yes.

Is there a difference between T5 and T14... yes.

Is there a difference between T25 and T65... yes.

But beyond those basic differences, law school is law school. The differences are far less obvious and far more difficult to pin-point than what the USNWR might lead you to believe.

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Postby SrLaw » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:51 pm

reasonable_man wrote:Its sad that the USNWR allows college kids to actually believe that there is a true difference in the 50 rank vs the 100 rank.

Is there a difference between T14 and T25... yes.

Is there a difference between T5 and T14... yes.

Is there a difference between T25 and T65... yes.

But beyond those basic differences, law school is law school. The differences are far less obvious and far more difficult to pin-point than what the USNWR might lead you to believe.



Agreed. However, there is a substantial difference between 40 and 120.

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Re: T3 rankings?

Postby BrownBears09 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:08 pm

reasonable_man wrote:Its sad that the USNWR allows college kids to actually believe that there is a true difference in the 50 rank vs the 100 rank.

Is there a difference between T14 and T25... yes.

Is there a difference between T5 and T14... yes.

Is there a difference between T25 and T65... yes.

But beyond those basic differences, law school is law school. The differences are far less obvious and far more difficult to pin-point than what the USNWR might lead you to believe.


I like how you make a completely different argument now. You are an elaborate troll.




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