taxguy wrote:Admittedly, you are NOT going to have many, if any, national law firms recruiting at Cooley as they would do in Michigan or Harvard. However, If a kid is willing to market themselves well and/or has some connections due to networking, I think Cooley could be a good option for those kids who didn't score well on the LSAT.
For what it's worth: I am also very egalitarian. I believe that everyone should be given a chance to be a lawyer and that the LSAT should not be as conclusive for admission as it is.
First: +10000 to you - for this part.
I wanted to read through all of the replies to this thread, and I'll get to it (damn reading) but this struck a chord with me. I agree 100%. I do realize the market is saturated and the last thing the market needs is a heap of under or semi-qualified lawyers. I get that. But let's face reality: people have a drive and a mentality to become lawyers. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm one of the few that did shitty on the LSAT (3x, sadly) and had to face the choice of (a) shitty law school (with some scholly $$) & TRY to transfer *or* (b) fuck being a lawyer. I honestly couldn't accept B even though I tried very hard to, for sake of money. I couldn't simply NOT try and just be happy with it -- and I turned down an amazing job offer of $60K starting out
fresh out of graduate school (~1.5yr after finishing UG) for a very reputable industrial company. I know I'll get called out for "omg ya right bullshit" and that's fine, I'm not bothered about that.. but that was my reality. I got fucking LAUGHED AT (don't blame them) for turning that down for 3+ MORE years of MORE school & MORE debt for what's, in all likelihood, going to amount to a smaller salary starting out. The fucked up part is that I'm at peace with that. I have backup options and I feel secure about my financial future right now because, just recently, my ability to "get it" in law school finally clicked. It's late in the game, sure, but I feel like I passed my finals and SHOULD HAVE some OK or GOOD grades, even by low-tier-school standards. Having said that, I dunno what the future holds. I'm happy right now and have no doubt that (providing I pass) I will be a good attorney that will help a lot of people. At the end of the day, isn't that what being a lawyer is about so long as you're living comfortably? Or, at least comfortable enough?
Everyone wants to be rich with a flashy job and be the "high-profile lawyer" that's associated with being an attorney.. but the reality is that this is the real-world and that's quite the exception to the norm, in terms of what the average law career is. Sure, some schools increase that potential far more than others.. but I'm fine. I'll bust my ass to transfer to a Tier-1 and if I don't get to, hey, I tried my 110% hardest. I'll make it work somehow. I honestly only care about graduating with a J.D. first, income second. That's insanity by TLS standards and/or total bullshit - but I couldn't give a fuck about that (no offense to anyone). I grew up and I know what I need in order to be happy and to live.. sorry for the sermon, but there's people out there that reads, yet doesn't post, when they are faced with the decision of (a) no lawyer or (b) give a shit-school a try.. I should know - I was one of them.
Second: Agree about the LSAT, in general. I get the point and understand what it tests & why it's tested in order for an applicant to get into any law school. I agree with that part, how everything is calculated etc. My problem is that I'm not convinced that it's the end-all-very-best way to do things. I don't have any alternative that will sound any better, but I just feel that the rankings-dick-measuring contest has given more weight to the LSAT score than what it should, in all reality. I'm not discounting you T14/T25 folks - props to you guys, man. It's not an easy test and I'd give anything if I could have done as well as 1/2 of you.. I'd be sitting much prettier if I would have prepared better & more. The majority of the fault for a poor score is on me, believe me - I know & accept that. All I'm saying is that a low LSAT score (versus COMPLETELY, and I mean TOTALLY bombing it) should not be taken as seriously as it is because people with low LSAT scores, I think, can make good lawyers. This is all just my take and many of you know I'm long-winded and have the whole "personal satisfaction" mantra going right now, so take this for what it is & with a grain of salt.