Yale PS - just over 1000 words... application suicide?

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Stanford414
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Yale PS - just over 1000 words... application suicide?

Postby Stanford414 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:55 am

My PS is just over 1000 words, and comes out to 3 (full) pages with 11 point font.

The information contained therein is all valuable and contributes to the piece.

I know that Yale has no page limit, but they suggest somewhere around two pages (+or-).

So, would submitting my PS as is be application suicide?

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Re: Yale PS - just over 1000 words... application suicide?

Postby Knock » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:58 am

Stanford414 wrote:My PS is just over 1000 words, and comes out to 3 (full) pages with 11 point font.

The information contained therein is all valuable and contributes to the piece.

I know that Yale has no page limit, but they suggest somewhere around two pages (+or-).

So, would submitting my PS as is be application suicide?


Depends how good your story is. But unless it's extremely exceptional (and remember, we're talking YALE standards here), you should trim it much closer to 2 pages.

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Re: Yale PS - just over 1000 words... application suicide?

Postby Hannibal » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:07 am

Stanford414 wrote:My PS is just over 1000 words, and comes out to 3 (full) pages with 11 point font.

The information contained therein is all valuable and contributes to the piece.

I know that Yale has no page limit, but they suggest somewhere around two pages (+or-).

So, would submitting my PS as is be application suicide?


It's not all about whether the information is valuable, since a lot of the time it can be written in a shorter way that gets the same information across.

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Re: Yale PS - just over 1000 words... application suicide?

Postby Helmholtz » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:25 am

Stanford414 wrote:My PS is just over 1000 words, and comes out to 3 (full) pages with 11 point font.

The information contained therein is all valuable and contributes to the piece.

I know that Yale has no page limit, but they suggest somewhere around two pages (+or-).

So, would submitting my PS as is be application suicide?


If your app is about how you spent your nobel prize money to help children in poverty in third world countries, I don't think it would that big of a deal.

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Re: Yale PS - just over 1000 words... application suicide?

Postby acrossthelake » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:30 am

My essay for undergrad was around 900-1000 words, and the limit was 500, and it was mentioned in my admissions letter. YMMV.

ETA: Also, read Dean Asha's blog and make your judgment call. She doesn't seem to like it when you deviate much from what they asked for.

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Re: Yale PS - just over 1000 words... application suicide?

Postby Knock » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:31 am

acrossthelake wrote:My essay for undergrad was around 900-1000 words, and the limit was 500, and it was mentioned in my admissions letter. YMMV.


Undergrad =/= LS

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Re: Yale PS - just over 1000 words... application suicide?

Postby acrossthelake » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:31 am

Knock wrote:
acrossthelake wrote:My essay for undergrad was around 900-1000 words, and the limit was 500, and it was mentioned in my admissions letter. YMMV.


Undergrad =/= LS


Eh, holistic admissions in both cases.

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Re: Yale PS - just over 1000 words... application suicide?

Postby Stanford414 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:22 am

Thanks everyone.

There appears to be a pretty firm consensus that the final product should hover around 2 pages, so I'm thinking 2 1/2 max.

What font is considered acceptable? I know 12 is standard, but 11 is certainly readable. In fact, Harvard's application explicitly mentions that 11 point font is acceptable (albeit the minimum allowable). What does everyone think?

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Re: Yale PS - just over 1000 words... application suicide?

Postby oliverdarcy » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:30 am

I'd go with 12 pt font. You can't go wrong with the standard 12 pt Times New Roman.

I know that 11 point font is acceptable, but I'm not sure you want to turn in "acceptable" to Yale. I wouldn't try to push the boundaries on an application of such magnitude.

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Re: Yale PS - just over 1000 words... application suicide?

Postby CanadianWolf » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:11 am

Depends on the content.

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Re: Yale PS - just over 1000 words... application suicide?

Postby dbrddr » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:16 pm

mine was Times Roman, 11 pt, 2 pages + 2 lines. No problem.

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Re: Yale PS - just over 1000 words... application suicide?

Postby plenipotentiary » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:26 pm

I don't know about Yale, but I know someone who got into Harvard Law with a 5 page personal statement. She is exceptionally wordy, though.




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