T-14 Ranked by Class Size

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Re: T-14 Ranked by Class Size

Postby SemperLegal » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:54 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
The problem with high GPA is only really high GPA = high GPA. Almost every t14 has a GPA median of 3.8.

There are probably more people with 3.8+/165 than there are any people with 170.

Looking at my LSAC transcript report 15% of my UG got 3.8 or better. Maybe 5% got 170 or better and I went to a state flagship. Imagine TTT undergrads. Still 15% have 3.8 but almost nobody gets 170.



Which reminds me....Why dont we hate on UGS that give A+'s more often? And why doesn't LSAC normalize for them? Damn those 4.0+'s!!!

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Re: T-14 Ranked by Class Size

Postby SemperLegal » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:03 pm

Desert Fox wrote: Almost every t14 has a GPA median of 3.8.


Also, no. http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2010_ ... ools.shtml

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Re: T-14 Ranked by Class Size

Postby 09042014 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:11 pm

SemperLegal wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: Almost every t14 has a GPA median of 3.8.


Also, no. http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2010_ ... ools.shtml

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Re: T-14 Ranked by Class Size

Postby T6Hopeful » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:12 pm

SemperLegal wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: Almost every t14 has a GPA median of 3.8.


Also, no. http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2010_ ... ools.shtml

+1. I knew that was wrong, since I applied with a 3.71 and I know which schools I have to sweat more than others. The link Semper posted though doesn't show median, just a 75/25 average.
From: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=128236

Yale 3.91
Harvard ~3.89
Stanford 3.88
Columbia 3.72
Chicago 3.78
NYU 3.71
Penn 3.85
Berkeley 3.80
Michigan 3.73
UVA 3.85
Duke 3.80
Northwestern 3.80
Cornell 3.70
Georgetown 3.67

I wouldn't say 8/14, with Chicago teetering near 3.8 making it 9/14, is ALMOST all. You can definitely break into the T14 several ways with a <3.8 GPA.

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Re: T-14 Ranked by Class Size

Postby 09042014 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:13 pm

SemperLegal wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: Almost every t14 has a GPA median of 3.8.


Also, no. http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2010_ ... ools.shtml


Average of 75 25 isn't median. Hth

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Re: T-14 Ranked by Class Size

Postby SemperLegal » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:50 pm

T6Hopeful wrote:+1. I knew that was wrong, since I applied with a 3.71 and I know which schools I have to sweat more than others. The link Semper posted though doesn't show median, just a 75/25 average.
From: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=128236

Yale 3.91
Harvard ~3.89
Stanford 3.88
Columbia 3.72
Chicago 3.78
NYU 3.71
Penn 3.85
Berkeley 3.80
Michigan 3.73
UVA 3.85
Duke 3.80
Northwestern 3.80
Cornell 3.70
Georgetown 3.67

I wouldn't say 8/14, with Chicago teetering near 3.8 making it 9/14, is ALMOST all. You can definitely break into the T14 several ways with a <3.8 GPA.


Thank you. I was trying to find a non-TLS source for that data and strangely GPA median is not reported anywhere. I thought that the mean of the 25/75 would be statistically quite close to the median, but I guess not since the standard dev is so low the arithmetic average is totally useless.

All this points to the fact that with a qualifying LSAT (170) and a qualifying GPA (3.74-3.82) there's enough "seats" for you in the T14, otherwise you have to earn your place with your softs/PS/apps. (not that the 170+/3.74+'s didn't earn it with kickass UG careers and mind-numbing LSAT prep)

Also lol at <3.8 because it looks like a 12 y/o girl is in love with a headless snowman




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