George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

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George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby binarycode » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:55 pm

I just found out that I have got accepted to Rutgers-Camden. However, I have applied to G. Mason -part time with an early-decision agreement. Although I don't mind working in DC, I would prefer PA or NY (in case I get into Rutgers-Newark.) I am worried about the job prospects after school mostly; so the region that I would practice in would be a secondary consideration.

My first question is which one you would choose (I haven't got into G.Mason yet.)

The second question is: if you choose R.Camden over G.Mason, is it possible to ask G.Mason to consider me as a full-time applicant instead of PT (auto-rejection in my case)? The deadline for ED applications at George Mason is tomorrow.

Finally, do have any other advice?

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Re: George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby Columbia Law » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:56 pm

Terrible choices if you want NYC.

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Re: George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby binarycode » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:00 pm

Columbia Law wrote:Terrible choices if you want NYC.


How about Rutgers-Newark? I heard their placement in NYC is not that bad.

Otherwise (if NYC is not an option), I would prefer PA over DC. Any advice?

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Re: George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby Aqualibrium » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:04 pm

If you don't want to work in the DC metro area/Nova, there is no reason at all to go to Mason. As far as New York goes, from Camden, Newark, or GMU, you'll probably need to be in the top ten percent or better to have a shot so it's pointless to try to split hairs on which will be better.

That leaves Camden since you wouldn't mind philly, but in that case, I'd say go to Temple.

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Re: George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby binarycode » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:10 pm

Aqualibrium wrote:If you don't want to work in the DC metro area/Nova, there is no reason at all to go to Mason. As far as New York goes, from Camden, Newark, or GMU, you'll probably need to be in the top ten percent or better to have a shot so it's pointless to try to split hairs on which will be better.

That leaves Camden since you wouldn't mind philly, but in that case, I'd say go to Temple.


I still don't mind DC. But I have heard bad things about employment prospects after GMU. So I am worried about getting accepted there and being trapped... If GMU has good prospects in DC area, then I can relax.

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Re: George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby 2Serious4Numbers » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:11 pm

didnt camden just slash its police force in half and is currently listed as one of the top 5 most dangerous cities in the country? good luck actually making it thru 3 years there alive, go to mason.

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Re: George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby James Bond » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:11 pm

binarycode wrote:Finally, do have any other advice?


Don't live in Camden for 3 years.

This is not trolling either. I'm serious

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Postby binarycode » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:19 pm

2Serious4Numbers wrote:didnt camden just slash its police force in half and is currently listed as one of the top 5 most dangerous cities in the country? good luck actually making it thru 3 years there alive, go to mason.


James Bond wrote:
binarycode wrote:Finally, do have any other advice?


Don't live in Camden for 3 years.

This is not trolling either. I'm serious


I'm not a trouble maker. But if it is that bad, I will give it some serious thoughts. Beside safety considerations, are there any benefits in terms of employment prospects after graduation from GMU over Camden or Newark?

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Re: George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby Aqualibrium » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:21 pm

binarycode wrote:
2Serious4Numbers wrote:didnt camden just slash its police force in half and is currently listed as one of the top 5 most dangerous cities in the country? good luck actually making it thru 3 years there alive, go to mason.


James Bond wrote:
binarycode wrote:Finally, do have any other advice?


Don't live in Camden for 3 years.

This is not trolling either. I'm serious


I'm not a trouble maker. But if it is that bad, I will give it some serious thoughts. Beside safety considerations, are there any benefits in terms of employment prospects after graduation from GMU over Camden or Newark?



No. At all three schools you're gonna have to do damn well to have some semblance of a shot at any sort of legal work that pays a living wage and makes the debt a good investment. I would go to GMU personally. All three schools will probably cost you the same, and at all three you'll need to be in the top 25% to have a realistic shot. Why not live in Arlington for a while?

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Postby binarycode » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:31 pm

Thanks Aqualibrium. Arlington seems to be the best city among the 3 in terms of quality of life, as the other replies also mentioned. Considering the equal employment prospects, it probably means that I SHOULD hope to get into GMU then! lol, how ironic!

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Postby Aqualibrium » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:34 pm

binarycode wrote:Thanks Aqualibrium. Arlington seems to be the best city among the 3 in terms of quality of life, as the other replies also mentioned. Considering the equal employment prospects, it probably means that I SHOULD hope to get into GMU then! lol, how ironic!



I wouldn't say equal, but I just think you're splitting hairs if you start trying to drill down and say that one school really puts you in that much of a better place than the others. If you force me to I'd say GMU=Newark>Camden. The difference is, GMU is in Arlington, and Newark is in Newark. At the same or similar cost, no one in their right mind would live in Newark, a city that recently threw a grand celebration for it's first murder free month in over 40 years, over Arlington, a city that is 5 minutes outside of DC.

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Re: George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby binarycode » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:50 pm

Aqualibrium wrote:
binarycode wrote:Thanks Aqualibrium. Arlington seems to be the best city among the 3 in terms of quality of life, as the other replies also mentioned. Considering the equal employment prospects, it probably means that I SHOULD hope to get into GMU then! lol, how ironic!



I wouldn't say equal, but I just think you're splitting hairs if you start trying to drill down and say that one school really puts you in that much of a better place than the others. If you force me to I'd say GMU=Newark>Camden. The difference is, GMU is in Arlington, and Newark is in Newark. At the same or similar cost, no one in their right mind would live in Newark, a city that recently threw a grand celebration for it's first murder free month in over 40 years, over Arlington, a city that is 5 minutes outside of DC.


Thanks. I am still waiting to hear from GMU, Newark, and some other schools. Apparently, I don't need to make changes to the application for GMU.

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Re: George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby bigkahuna2020 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:59 am

James Bond wrote:
binarycode wrote:Finally, do have any other advice?


Don't live in Camden for 3 years.

This is not trolling either. I'm serious


I know quite a few people who study in Camden (med school, law school)

Almost everyone lives in Philly or a PA suburb

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Re: George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby URMdan » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:05 am

Why dont you consider American?

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Re: George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby binarycode » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:13 am

URMdan wrote:Why dont you consider American?


American is too expensive, especially because I am an out-of-state applicant.

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Postby Aqualibrium » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:13 am

URMdan wrote:Why dont you consider American?


Because it is incredibly expensive, is full of weirdos and international students, and is basically in the middle of nowhere in relation to DC?

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Postby sundance95 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:18 am

Aqualibrium wrote:
URMdan wrote:Why dont you consider American?


Because it is incredibly expensive, is full of weirdos and international students, and is basically in the middle of nowhere in relation to DC?

This is a tough argument to make, given that American is actually, you know, in DC, whereas GMU is not.

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Postby Aqualibrium » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:28 am

sundance95 wrote:
Aqualibrium wrote:
URMdan wrote:Why dont you consider American?


Because it is incredibly expensive, is full of weirdos and international students, and is basically in the middle of nowhere in relation to DC?

This is a tough argument to make, given that American is actually, you know, in DC, whereas GMU is not.


GMU is actually, you know on the metro line whereas American is not anywhere near it. As far as enjoying life in DC goes, anyone who has been to the city and knows where both of these schools are located would tell you that GMU > than American in that regard.

Wait a minute, you went to GW...you do realize that the Virgina Square-GMU stop on the Orange line is basically across the street from GMU right? American is practically in Maryland (it's literally 1/2 a mile from the Maryland state line);Tenley Town on the red line is the closest stop to American, and it's nearly a mile and a half away.
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Postby URMdan » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:33 am

sundance95 wrote:
Aqualibrium wrote:
URMdan wrote:Why dont you consider American?


Because it is incredibly expensive, is full of weirdos and international students, and is basically in the middle of nowhere in relation to DC?

This is a tough argument to make, given that American is actually, you know, in DC, whereas GMU is not.


Um yea, not to mention DC is filled with weirdos all over the place. Besides, the international students are easier to have sexual relations with..

Not to mention if you think the international students are a turnoff at American, then good luck accepting the ones at Rutgers Newark. Rutgers Newark has loads of internationals from India. The Rutgers Newark campus isn't that great either - it's in the heart of Newark and located very closely to the undergraduate Rutgers-Newark campus. Housing at Rutgers-Newark is mostly mixed between UG and law students. Apply to Brooklyn or Cordoza PT if you want to work in the city. Sure they are expensive, but at least you will have job prospects awaiting you if you do decent.

The only positive about GMU is living in Arlington. Arlington is wonderful <3

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Postby URMdan » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:34 am

Aqualibrium wrote:
sundance95 wrote:
Aqualibrium wrote:
URMdan wrote:Why dont you consider American?


Because it is incredibly expensive, is full of weirdos and international students, and is basically in the middle of nowhere in relation to DC?

This is a tough argument to make, given that American is actually, you know, in DC, whereas GMU is not.


GMU is actually, you know on the metro line whereas American is not anywhere near it. As far as enjoying life in DC goes, anyone who has been to the city and knows where both of these schools are located would tell you that GMU > than American in that regard.

Wait a minute, you went to GW...you do realize that the Virgina Square-GMU stop on the Orange line is basically across the street from GMU right?



Isn't American off the Red line?

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Re: George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby Aqualibrium » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:37 am

URMdan wrote:
sundance95 wrote:
Aqualibrium wrote:
URMdan wrote:Why dont you consider American?


Because it is incredibly expensive, is full of weirdos and international students, and is basically in the middle of nowhere in relation to DC?

This is a tough argument to make, given that American is actually, you know, in DC, whereas GMU is not.


Um yea, not to mention DC is filled with weirdos all over the place. Besides, the international students are easier to have sexual relations with..

Not to mention if you think the international students are a turnoff at American, then good luck accepting the ones at Rutgers Newark. Rutgers Newark has loads of internationals from India. The Rutgers Newark campus isn't that great either - it's in the heart of Newark and located very closely to the undergraduate Rutgers-Newark campus. Housing at Rutgers-Newark is mostly mixed between UG and law students. Apply to Brooklyn or Cordoza PT if you want to work in the city. Sure they are expensive, but at least you will have job prospects awaiting you if you do decent.

The only positive about GMU is living in Arlington. Arlington is wonderful <3



I was kidding about the weirdos and international students...

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Re: George Mason (part time) Vs Rutgers-Camden -Please help

Postby sundance95 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:41 am

Aqualibrium wrote:Wait a minute, you went to GW...you do realize that the Virgina Square-GMU stop on the Orange line is basically across the street from GMU right?

Yes, I'm aware of the metro system, I lived in DC for five years and live in NOVA now. Did you know there's a bus system in DC, too? And that from AU you can catch both the Mass Ave lines to Dupont and downtown and the 90s lines to Adams Morgan and U Street? There's also this great new transportation system called cabs, and with the new metro prices it's pretty much worth it to take one whenever you are with someone else.

AU is not in downtown, I get it, and if you like NOVA, then GMU's cool and all, but saying that AU is 'nowhere in relation to DC' as an advantage for GMU implies that GMU is right in the heart of DC and the fact is that they are both peripheral to downtown. Also, the Orange Line is nothing but pain and tears at rush hour. I thank God daily that I take the Yellow Line home.

Edit: typo.
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Postby sundance95 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:43 am

URMdan wrote:Isn't American off the Red line?

There's a 'Tenleytown/AU' stop, but it's not actually at AU's campus (about a mile away), although they run a shuttle.

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Postby Aqualibrium » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:44 am

sundance95 wrote:
Aqualibrium wrote:Wait a minute, you went to GW...you do realize that the Virgina Square-GMU stop on the Orange line is basically across the street from GMU right?

Yes, I'm aware of the metro system, I lived in DC for five years and live in NOVA now. Did you know there's a bus system in DC, too? And that from AU you can catch both the Mass Ave lines to Dupont and downtown and the 90s lines to Adams Morgan and U Street? There's also this great new transportation system called cabs, and with the new metro prices it's pretty much worth it to take one whenever you are with someone else.

AU is not in downtown, I get it, and if you like NOVA, then GMU's cool and all, but saying that AU is 'nowhere in relation to DC' as an advantage of GMU implies that GMU is right in the heart of DC and the fact is that they are both peripheral to downtown. Also, the Orange Line is nothing but pain and tears at rush hour. I thank God daily that I take the Yellow Line home.



lol at pain and tears....okay okay, you got me; I like Nova quite a bit.

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Postby URMdan » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:46 am

I thank god for the Yellow line too




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