Few Princeton Students in Law School?

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby Unemployed » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:23 pm

Nightrunner wrote:Why in the world would Ivies lower admissions standards to enable the worst D1 sports teams in the country? That's a lose-lose.


But then again, miracles do happen now and then:

http://www.uscho.com/rankingsnew/
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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby BrownBears09 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:28 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:Double quoted for ignorance. It is completely apparent that neither of you have any idea what you're talking about.

lawl. Are you asserting that Ivy League sports are not inferior to the rest of Division 1? CHECK YOU STATISTICS.

http://www.ncsasports.org/about-ncsa/power-rankings/%28year%29/2010/%28tab%29/1

No no, my friend. CHECK YOU STATISTICS. There are a variety of sports where the Ivy League excels (i.e. Brown Women's Rowing is a 8-time NCAA National Champion in the last 10 years, each year finishing in the Top 3. UPenn Football finished No. 13 in the FCS.)

But hey, keep talking. It appears that you know better than I.
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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby Unemployed » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:30 pm

BrownBears09 wrote:
Nightrunner wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:Double quoted for ignorance. It is completely apparent that neither of you have any idea what you're talking about.

lawl. Are you asserting that Ivy League sports are not inferior to the rest of Division 1? CHECK YOU STATISTICS.

http://www.ncsasports.org/about-ncsa/power-rankings/%28year%29/2010/%28tab%29/1

No no, my friend. CHECK YOU STATISTICS.


Oh, come on.

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby mrmangs » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:31 pm

BrownBears09 wrote:
Nightrunner wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:Double quoted for ignorance. It is completely apparent that neither of you have any idea what you're talking about.

lawl. Are you asserting that Ivy League sports are not inferior to the rest of Division 1? CHECK YOU STATISTICS.

http://www.ncsasports.org/about-ncsa/power-rankings/%28year%29/2010/%28tab%29/1

No no, my friend. CHECK YOU STATISTICS.


Um... The ranking is in part determined by the "the NCAA student-athlete graduation rate of each college/university and the U.S. News & World Report ranking." Look at the athletic rank column.

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby BrownBears09 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:34 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
Nightrunner wrote:lawl. Are you asserting that Ivy League sports are not inferior to the rest of Division 1? CHECK YOU STATISTICS.

http://www.ncsasports.org/about-ncsa/power-rankings/%28year%29/2010/%28tab%29/1

No no, my friend. CHECK YOU STATISTICS.


Athletic Rankings wrote:Princeton 32
Cornell 52
Harvard 64
Yale 76
Penn 81
Brown 91
Dartmouth 128
Columbia 151


We're talking about the quality of the sports. And these ranks include fencing and rowing and bullshit sports, too.

I appreciate the way that you inadvertently illustrate the principle at hand, though.


Over 311 teams are represented in the athletics category. C'mon big mod, statistics aren't hard. It's OK to admit you're wrong once in a while.

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:36 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
We're talking about the quality of the sports. And these ranks include fencing and rowing and bullshit sports, too.


lol thats not very nice.... fencing looks tough

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:39 pm

BrownBears09 wrote:
Over 311 teams are represented in the athletics category. C'mon big mod, statistics aren't hard. It's OK to admit you're wrong once in a while.


You need to also notice that Football, Basketball, Baseball, Womens Softball, and Hockey are seriously the only sports that matter. And some of those 311 schools are 2,000 - 4,000 student schools in the middle of nowhere PA that shouldn't even be on the same scale.

Edit: NR already said it... I'm a slow typer.
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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby D. H2Oman » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:40 pm

BrownBears09 wrote:There are a variety of sports where the Ivy League excels (i.e. Brown Women's Rowing is a 8-time NCAA National Champion in the last 10 years, each year finishing in the Top 3.




Don't have anything to add, but I just thought this should be thrown up there again.

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby D. H2Oman » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:41 pm

AreJay711 wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
Over 311 teams are represented in the athletics category. C'mon big mod, statistics aren't hard. It's OK to admit you're wrong once in a while.


You need to also notice that Football, Basketball, Baseball, Womens Softball, and Hockey are seriously the only sports that matter. And some of those 311 schools are 2,000 - 4,000 student schools in the middle of nowhere PA that shouldn't even be on the same scale.



This is impressively subtle trolling, keep up the good work.

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby BrownBears09 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:42 pm

Nightrunner wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
Over 311 teams are represented in the athletics category. C'mon big mod, statistics aren't hard. It's OK to admit you're wrong once in a while.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

OK, allow me to rephrase: Ivy League sports are pathetic in football, usually pathetic in basketball, often pathetic in baseball, and apparently pretty decent at a bunch of shit people don't care about.

Better?


<3

However, to be fair, UPenn's football team is currently ranked 13th in the FCS.

Edit: Yale's Men's Ice Hockey is ranked 1st with Cornell's being 19th. Cornell's Women's Ice Hockey is ranked 1st.
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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby D. H2Oman » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:44 pm

BrownBears09 wrote:
Nightrunner wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
Over 311 teams are represented in the athletics category. C'mon big mod, statistics aren't hard. It's OK to admit you're wrong once in a while.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

OK, allow me to rephrase: Ivy League sports are pathetic in football, usually pathetic in basketball, often pathetic in baseball, and apparently pretty decent at a bunch of shit people don't care about.

Better?


<3

However, to be fair, UPenn's football team is currently ranked 13th in the FCS.



So they're what? Like the 125th best college football team in the country?

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:45 pm

D. H2Oman wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
Over 311 teams are represented in the athletics category. C'mon big mod, statistics aren't hard. It's OK to admit you're wrong once in a while.


You need to also notice that Football, Basketball, Baseball, Womens Softball, and Hockey are seriously the only sports that matter. And some of those 311 schools are 2,000 - 4,000 student schools in the middle of nowhere PA that shouldn't even be on the same scale.



This is impressively subtle trolling, keep up the good work.

Lol I actually make sure to watch the championship tourney every year

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby BrownBears09 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:47 pm

D. H2Oman wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
Nightrunner wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
Over 311 teams are represented in the athletics category. C'mon big mod, statistics aren't hard. It's OK to admit you're wrong once in a while.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

OK, allow me to rephrase: Ivy League sports are pathetic in football, usually pathetic in basketball, often pathetic in baseball, and apparently pretty decent at a bunch of shit people don't care about.

Better?


<3

However, to be fair, UPenn's football team is currently ranked 13th in the FCS.



So they're what? Like the 125th best college football team in the country?


Trolling:
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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:50 pm

D. H2Oman wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
Nightrunner wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
Over 311 teams are represented in the athletics category. C'mon big mod, statistics aren't hard. It's OK to admit you're wrong once in a while.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

OK, allow me to rephrase: Ivy League sports are pathetic in football, usually pathetic in basketball, often pathetic in baseball, and apparently pretty decent at a bunch of shit people don't care about.

Better?


<3

However, to be fair, UPenn's football team is currently ranked 13th in the FCS.


So they're what? Like the 125th best college football team in the country?


You are right that UPenn is probably nothing special but some IAA (I refuse to call it FCS) teams are really good every year like Appalachian, UMass, Delaware, and Villanova. They could probably be competitive in the MAC or another one of the weaker conferences.

Edit: Quote fail
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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby prezidentv8 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:53 pm

BrownBears09 wrote:There are a variety of sports where the Ivy League excels (i.e. Brown Women's Rowing is a 8-time NCAA National Champion in the last 10 years, each year finishing in the Top 3.


Not talkin bout the V8, right? :wink:

And, no, everyone else, that's not a reference to my TLS name.

Also, grade inflation is the most overblown issue in education this side of plagiarism.

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby BrownBears09 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:57 pm

Nightrunner wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what the FCS is. But you do have a good point about Hockey.


Division I used to be broken down into subdivisions: Division I-A and Division I-AA. They were later named the FBS (Football Bowl Series, i.e. "Bowls") and FCS (Football Championship Series, i.e. playoffs). It is essentially a smaller division of football, however the two divisions play each other relatively frequently. For example, Appalachian State's win over Michigan was an FCS vs FBS game.

But meh, my derail is over.

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby acrossthelake » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:05 pm

Meh I don't care about and don't see any value to lowering academic admissions standards for better sports teams. It's not like we make money off of ppl watching them play on TV.

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby r6_philly » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:21 pm

acrossthelake wrote:Meh I don't care about and don't see any value to lowering academic admissions standards for better sports teams. It's not like we make money off of ppl watching them play on TV.


You are kidding me right? Sports is the single sure way to raise funding level for schools. TV rights are worth $. You can also argue about tradition and moral (both for the current students and alumni). If you want to offer sports, then you try to beat your conference. And obviously you can't not offer sports.

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby James Bond » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:22 pm

acrossthelake wrote:Meh I don't care about and don't see any value to lowering academic admissions standards for better sports teams. It's not like we make money off of ppl watching them play on TV.


+1,000

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby James Bond » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:23 pm

r6_philly wrote:
acrossthelake wrote:Meh I don't care about and don't see any value to lowering academic admissions standards for better sports teams. It's not like we make money off of ppl watching them play on TV.


You are kidding me right? Sports is the single sure way to raise funding level for schools. TV rights are worth $. You can also argue about tradition and moral (both for the current students and alumni). If you want to offer sports, then you try to beat your conference. And obviously you can't not offer sports.


The TV revenue for Brown football is overwhelming, I'm sure

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby acrossthelake » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:26 pm

r6_philly wrote:
acrossthelake wrote:Meh I don't care about and don't see any value to lowering academic admissions standards for better sports teams. It's not like we make money off of ppl watching them play on TV.


You are kidding me right? Sports is the single sure way to raise funding level for schools. TV rights are worth $. You can also argue about tradition and moral (both for the current students and alumni). If you want to offer sports, then you try to beat your conference. And obviously you can't not offer sports.



TV rights are worth $ at places like UMich, not here. It's not tradition when most people never go and when the football frat is pretty widely hated and despised. I'm all for offering sports--I just don't get the point of lowering academic admissions standards for recruited athletes.

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby r6_philly » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:26 pm

James Bond wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
acrossthelake wrote:Meh I don't care about and don't see any value to lowering academic admissions standards for better sports teams. It's not like we make money off of ppl watching them play on TV.


You are kidding me right? Sports is the single sure way to raise funding level for schools. TV rights are worth $. You can also argue about tradition and moral (both for the current students and alumni). If you want to offer sports, then you try to beat your conference. And obviously you can't not offer sports.


The TV revenue for Brown football is overwhelming, I'm sure


It isn't, but it isn't nothing. If they have scholarships to spend, the why not recruit the right talent. I for one do not want to go to homecoming and lose 51-3 to Brown Bears.

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby r6_philly » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:28 pm

acrossthelake wrote:TV rights are worth $ at places like UMich, not here. It's not tradition when most people never go and when the football frat is pretty widely hated and despised. I'm all for offering sports--I just don't get the point of lowering academic admissions standards for recruited athletes.


I want to see you become AD and field a team of student athletes comprised of regular admits. See my above post, do you really want to field a 0-10 team and have people like BrownBears09 in your face all the time?

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby James Bond » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:29 pm

r6_philly wrote:
James Bond wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
acrossthelake wrote:Meh I don't care about and don't see any value to lowering academic admissions standards for better sports teams. It's not like we make money off of ppl watching them play on TV.


You are kidding me right? Sports is the single sure way to raise funding level for schools. TV rights are worth $. You can also argue about tradition and moral (both for the current students and alumni). If you want to offer sports, then you try to beat your conference. And obviously you can't not offer sports.


The TV revenue for Brown football is overwhelming, I'm sure


It isn't, but it isn't nothing. If they have scholarships to spend, the why not recruit the right talent. I for one do not want to go to homecoming and lose 51-3 to Brown Bears.


Do you go to Brown? If so, please quote me how much money Brown makes off TV revenue. I am willing to bet the number is 0, just like it is at many small or academic schools is the country

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Re: Few Princeton Students in Law School?

Postby r6_philly » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:31 pm

James Bond wrote:
Do you go to Brown? If so, please quote me how much money Brown makes off TV revenue. I am willing to bet the number is 0, just like it is at many small or academic schools is the country


No I don't. I wasn't arguing with you, I don't know for sure, but if there are ads aired, someone's getting something.




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