How do you think law schools should be ranked?

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How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby elegally » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:39 pm

List any factors that you think would lead to better rankings of law schools.

Also, since there are bound to be some silly answers, let me get this out of the way.

Lol! You should be a comedian!

No. You should really be a comedian. The legal market is saturated.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby Adjudicator » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:42 pm

Allow me to make the first joke!


Library size.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby Aqualibrium » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:43 pm

By USNEWS and World Report...

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby YankeesFan » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:43 pm

Number of bars within a 5 block radius

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby 4for44 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:44 pm

Lay person prestige... ;)

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby OGR3 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:44 pm

Eliminate T-3 and T-4.

Then alphabetically.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby 4for44 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:45 pm

OGR3 wrote:Eliminate T-3 and T-4.

Then alphabetically.


Oh god... Poor Yale...

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby Adjudicator » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm

4for44 wrote:
OGR3 wrote:Eliminate T-3 and T-4.

Then alphabetically.


Oh god... Poor Yale...


If we did this, the #1 school in the country would be... Alabama? Followed by American University.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby thelaststraw05 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:48 pm

Some type of employment statistic that isn't ENTIRELY made up.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby thelaststraw05 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:49 pm

Adjudicator wrote:
4for44 wrote:
OGR3 wrote:Eliminate T-3 and T-4.

Then alphabetically.


Oh god... Poor Yale...


If we did this, the #1 school in the country would be... Alabama? Followed by American University.


Cooley's ranking would be severely increased. Also many schools would be looking to go from "The University of XXXXX" to "XXXXX, The University of."

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby YankeesFan » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:51 pm

thelaststraw05 wrote:Some type of employment statistic that isn't ENTIRELY made up.


WIN.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby Borhas » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:52 pm

employment outcomes
diversity
faculty

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby thelaststraw05 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:54 pm

Average debt load upon graduation?

In this economy, graduating with a heavy debt burden can be a death sentence.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby Bildungsroman » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:09 pm

Employment after graduation.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby Sentry » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:13 pm

JD required employment
Biglaw+clerkship is a pretty good rough indicator.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby tk4386 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:14 pm

Sluttiness of the locals.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby kwais » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:18 pm

1 minus %hipsters/%students

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby pereira6 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:28 pm

BCS rankings and men's bball coaches' polls, duh.

I think some sort of analysis of how well the school does in its home market should be in play. For example, lots of Tier 2 schools have a great placement in their regions, while others struggle to even place their students at the law firm next door.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby omninode » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:33 pm

Quality of local pizza.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby canuck » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:38 pm

[(job stats/1L difficulty) + library comfort] x hot undegrads

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby northwood » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:40 pm

ratio of bars to students

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby 2807 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:43 pm

I would like to see a blind test for employment after law school.
Employment will be determined by what you learned--not where where you learned it.

Then, rank schools accordingly.

T4 or T1 will have no value.
Work-product should be king.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby omninode » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:53 pm

2807 wrote:I would like to see a blind test for employment after law school.
Employment will be determined by what you learned--not where where you learned it.

Then, rank schools accordingly.

T4 or T1 will have no value.
Work-product should be king.

I think the rankings would probably be roughly the same, with perhaps a few surprises (mainly T1s/T2s moving down). I don't think you would see T4 schools jumping into the top 50.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby 2807 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:03 pm

omninode wrote:
2807 wrote:I would like to see a blind test for employment after law school.
Employment will be determined by what you learned--not where where you learned it.

Then, rank schools accordingly.

T4 or T1 will have no value.
Work-product should be king.

I think the rankings would probably be roughly the same, with perhaps a few surprises (mainly T1s/T2s moving down). I don't think you would see T4 schools jumping into the top 50.


Well, maybe. That is why I would like a blind test. It will tell the truth. It would make the teachers teach, and the students learn. Pedigree would mean nothing. If it so happened that pedigree and work-product equated to the same rankings I would be surprised, but at least it would really validate that ranking--and for the right reason.

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Re: How do you think law schools should be ranked?

Postby canuck » Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:08 pm

2807 wrote:
omninode wrote:
2807 wrote:I would like to see a blind test for employment after law school.
Employment will be determined by what you learned--not where where you learned it.

Then, rank schools accordingly.

T4 or T1 will have no value.
Work-product should be king.

I think the rankings would probably be roughly the same, with perhaps a few surprises (mainly T1s/T2s moving down). I don't think you would see T4 schools jumping into the top 50.


Well, maybe. That is why I would like a blind test. It will tell the truth. It would make the teachers teach, and the students learn. Pedigree would mean nothing. If it so happened that pedigree and work-product equated to the same rankings I would be surprised, but at least it would really validate that ranking--and for the right reason.


This is so flawed in so many ways.




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