Chance me!

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JazzOne
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Chance me!

Postby JazzOne » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:15 pm

OK, so I'm already in law school. I'm a 2L at UT. I am from Texas, and I knew I wanted to go to UT pretty early in the process, so I didn't even apply anywhere else. I was tempted to apply to NU and Vandy, but I got my scholly from UT, so I just left it at that.

So here's what I'm curious to know. How high up the T14 could I have gone if I was willing to pay sticker? Assume I peppered the T14 rather than applying to UT. My stats were:

UG: T20, 3.25, biology
LSAT: 171, 174
9 years WE: a few years in management (mortgage company), few years in lab research, and a few years in teaching

So, how would my cycle go applying with those stats. Here's the kicker: URM (MA).

1. Yale - out (obviously)
2. Harvard - out
3. Stanford - out
4. Columbia - out?
5. Chicago - out?
6. NYU -out?
7. Berkeley - out
7. Penn - ?
9. Michigan - ?
10. UVa - ?
11. Duke - in?
11. NU - in
13. Cornell - in
14. Georgetown - in

What do you all think? Just curious. Doesn't really matter now, but I've always wondered "what if?"

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Re: Chance me!

Postby northwood » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:19 pm

you should be doing pretty well..

not sure about the top 4 ( they are unpredictable), but from 5 on down, you should be in

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Re: Chance me!

Postby beachbum » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:23 pm

A patent-eligible URM with good WE and a sky-high LSAT? Harvard would definitely be in play, and CCN would be your reasonable targets. The rest of the T14 would have given you money. But Texas with no debt ain't bad, either.

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Re: Chance me!

Postby r6_philly » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:24 pm

JazzOne wrote:OK, so I'm already in law school. I'm a 2L at UT. I am from Texas, and I knew I wanted to go to UT pretty early in the process, so I didn't even apply anywhere else. I was tempted to apply to NU and Vandy, but I got my scholly from UT, so I just left it at that.

So here's what I'm curious to know. How high up the T14 could I have gone if I was willing to pay sticker? Assume I peppered the T14 rather than applying to UT. My stats were:

UG: T20, 3.25, biology
LSAT: 171, 174
9 years WE: a few years in management (mortgage company), few years in lab research, and a few years in teaching

So, how would my cycle go applying with those stats. Here's the kicker: URM (MA).

1. Yale - out (obviously)
2. Harvard - out
3. Stanford - out
4. Columbia - out?
5. Chicago - out?
6. NYU -out?
7. Berkeley - out
7. Penn - ?
9. Michigan - ?
10. UVa - ?
11. Duke - in?
11. NU - in
13. Cornell - in
14. Georgetown - in

What do you all think? Just curious. Doesn't really matter now, but I've always wondered "what if?"


That would do you no favors :wink:
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Re: Chance me!

Postby MysticalWheel » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:25 pm

Best guess for the highest school you might have gotten in at would be Penn.

MW

Edit: If URM, then Columbia.

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Re: Chance me!

Postby r6_philly » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:26 pm

MysticalWheel wrote:Best guess for the highest school you might have gotten in at would be Penn.

MW

Edit: If URM, then Columbia.


Has a shot for NYU/Columbia probably if packaged right.
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Re: Chance me!

Postby JazzOne » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:26 pm

r6_philly wrote:
JazzOne wrote:OK, so I'm already in law school. I'm a 2L at UT. I am from Texas, and I knew I wanted to go to UT pretty early in the process, so I didn't even apply anywhere else. I was tempted to apply to NU and Vandy, but I got my scholly from UT, so I just left it at that.

So here's what I'm curious to know. How high up the T14 could I have gone if I was willing to pay sticker? Assume I peppered the T14 rather than applying to UT. My stats were:

UG: T20, 3.25, biology
LSAT: 171, 174
9 years WE: a few years in management (mortgage company), few years in lab research, and a few years in teaching

So, how would my cycle go applying with those stats. Here's the kicker: URM (MA).

1. Yale - out (obviously)
2. Harvard - out
3. Stanford - out
4. Columbia - out?
5. Chicago - out?
6. NYU -out?
7. Berkeley - out
7. Penn - ?
9. Michigan - ?
10. UVa - ?
11. Duke - in?
11. NU - in
13. Cornell - in
14. Georgetown - in

What do you all think? Just curious. Doesn't really matter now, but I've always wondered "what if?"


That would do you no favors :wink:

lol

I got out before the collapse.

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Re: Chance me!

Postby northwood » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:27 pm

why not send them in and see how it goes?

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Re: Chance me!

Postby pinkzeppelin » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:27 pm

LSN says you would have had a good shot at some pretty awesome schools. Obviously a URM splitter will have a pretty unpredictable cycle, but each of these LSN profiles have similar numbers/are URM and got Darrow scholarships at Michigan along with other awesome offers (indy guy got harvard)


http://lawschoolnumbers.com/indyguy7484
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/hegemonyhog
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/SharkWeek

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Re: Chance me!

Postby r6_philly » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:28 pm

JazzOne wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
That would do you no favors :wink:

lol

I got out before the collapse.


In other words, you made coin then got out??? I know a few people in mortgage business that greatly attributed to the collapse.

:-p

Sorry, too tempting, I mean no disrespect.
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Re: Chance me!

Postby arism87 » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:28 pm

Lol why do I feel like people didn't read OP's post. Sheesh.

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Re: Chance me!

Postby MysticalWheel » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:28 pm

r6_philly wrote:
MysticalWheel wrote:Best guess for the highest school you might have gotten in at would be Penn.

MW

Edit: If URM, then Columbia.


Has a shot for NYU/Columbia probably if packaged right.

Thought about that, but the GPA and retake made me say Penn.

MW

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Re: Chance me!

Postby r6_philly » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:30 pm

MysticalWheel wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
MysticalWheel wrote:Best guess for the highest school you might have gotten in at would be Penn.

MW

Edit: If URM, then Columbia.


Has a shot for NYU/Columbia probably if packaged right.

Thought about that, but the GPA and retake made me say Penn.

MW


Some people with worse GAP + LSAT got full rides through the named scholarships. Like I say, you have to package it right. 2 LSAT in the 170's, URM, they will overlook the GPA especially being so old (before grade inflation).

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Re: Chance me!

Postby JazzOne » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:31 pm

r6_philly wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
That would do you no favors :wink:

lol

I got out before the collapse.


In other words, you made coin then got out??? I know a few people in mortgage business that greatly attributed to the collapse.

:-p

Sorry, too tempting, I mean no disrespect.

Nah man, I'm not offended. That was my first job after college. I had problems with some of the things I saw, so I got out as quickly as I could.

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Re: Chance me!

Postby JazzOne » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:32 pm

r6_philly wrote:
MysticalWheel wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
MysticalWheel wrote:Best guess for the highest school you might have gotten in at would be Penn.

MW

Edit: If URM, then Columbia.


Has a shot for NYU/Columbia probably if packaged right.

Thought about that, but the GPA and retake made me say Penn.

MW


Some people with worse GAP + LSAT got full rides through the named scholarships. Like I say, you have to package it right. 2 LSAT in the 170's, URM, they will overlook the GPA especially being so old (before grade inflation).

Oh my God, you're fucking killing me.

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Re: Chance me!

Postby MysticalWheel » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:37 pm

r6_philly wrote:
MysticalWheel wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
MysticalWheel wrote:Best guess for the highest school you might have gotten in at would be Penn.

MW

Edit: If URM, then Columbia.


Has a shot for NYU/Columbia probably if packaged right.

Thought about that, but the GPA and retake made me say Penn.

MW


Some people with worse GAP + LSAT got full rides through the named scholarships. Like I say, you have to package it right. 2 LSAT in the 170's, URM, they will overlook the GPA especially being so old (before grade inflation).

If you look at my original post, Penn was for non-URM predictions; Columbia was for URM.

MW

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Re: Chance me!

Postby r6_philly » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:40 pm

JazzOne wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
Some people with worse GAP + LSAT got full rides through the named scholarships. Like I say, you have to package it right. 2 LSAT in the 170's, URM, they will overlook the GPA especially being so old (before grade inflation).

Oh my God, you're fucking killing me.


What did I do?

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Re: Chance me!

Postby JazzOne » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:41 pm

r6_philly wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
Some people with worse GAP + LSAT got full rides through the named scholarships. Like I say, you have to package it right. 2 LSAT in the 170's, URM, they will overlook the GPA especially being so old (before grade inflation).

Oh my God, you're fucking killing me.


What did I do?

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Re: Chance me!

Postby fugitivejammer » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:42 pm

Texas is so awesome - you win.

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Re: Chance me!

Postby MysticalWheel » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:42 pm

r6_philly wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
Some people with worse GAP + LSAT got full rides through the named scholarships. Like I say, you have to package it right. 2 LSAT in the 170's, URM, they will overlook the GPA especially being so old (before grade inflation).

Oh my God, you're fucking killing me.


What did I do?

You're making him/her feel like he/she could have gotten into a better school than he/she did.

MW
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Re: Chance me!

Postby DieAntwoord » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:42 pm

Im your double applying now. Well, minus the awsome w/e and major and great ug.......
Ok, im nothing like you.
178(retake)/3.25

Are you also a texas resident? If so do you think that helped land the big bucks from texas?

p.s. wish me luck as you-ish
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Re: Chance me!

Postby JazzOne » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:42 pm

MysticalWheel wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
Some people with worse GAP + LSAT got full rides through the named scholarships. Like I say, you have to package it right. 2 LSAT in the 170's, URM, they will overlook the GPA especially being so old (before grade inflation).

Oh my God, you're fucking killing me.


What did I do?

You're making him/her feel like he/she could have gotten into a better school than he/she did.

MW

Was that ever in doubt? Come on, you were doing well.

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Re: Chance me!

Postby r6_philly » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:43 pm

JazzOne wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
Some people with worse GAP + LSAT got full rides through the named scholarships. Like I say, you have to package it right. 2 LSAT in the 170's, URM, they will overlook the GPA especially being so old (before grade inflation).

Oh my God, you're fucking killing me.


What did I do?


Umm what did I do? :mrgreen: I think I earned the right to call you old!

I think we about the same age no?

ETA: I mean your GPA is so old.
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Re: Chance me!

Postby JazzOne » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:43 pm

DieAntwoord wrote:Im your double applying now. Well, minus the awsome w/e and major and great ug.......
Ok, im nothing like you.
178(retake)/3.25

Are you also a texas resident?

Ya, Texas resident

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Re: Chance me!

Postby whymeohgodno » Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:44 pm

Competitive at CCN, in at the rest of the t14.

Edit: Other than Berkeley.




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