What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

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Which would be worse to have?

3.99
58
72%
179
23
28%
 
Total votes: 81

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby s0ph1e2007 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:45 am

I mean... they're both great... I think a 3.99 has more weight in admissions than a 179 though so I guess I would rather not have a 179, if we're talking one or the other (which I understand was not OPs original intention)

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby whymeohgodno » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:45 am

Desert Fox wrote:That reinforces everything I thought at harvard.


You were at Harvard?

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby 09042014 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:46 am

whymeohgodno wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:That reinforces everything I thought at harvard.


You were at Harvard?


lol no, I meant about.

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby im_blue » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:47 am

s0ph1e2007 wrote:I mean... they're both great... I think a 3.99 has more weight in admissions than a 179 though so I guess I would rather not have a 179, if we're talking one or the other (which I understand was not OPs original intention)

Lolwut, a 3.5 (roughly top 25% at most UGs) and 179 would get into CCN, while a 3.99/158 (also top 25%) would be lucky to land a few T1s.

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby The Stig » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:47 am

s0ph1e2007 wrote:I mean... they're both great... I think a 3.99 has more weight in admissions than a 179 though so I guess I would rather not have a 179, if we're talking one or the other (which I understand was not OPs original intention)


I would think otherwise...I bet there are more 3.99+ LSAC GPAs than there are 179-180s....

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby WhiteCochran » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:48 am

im_blue wrote:A 3.99 at Harvard is most likely rarer than a 179, since only 6 people have gotten a 4.0 since 1982. The most recent 4.0 grad ended up at Pepperdine Law.

http://law.pepperdine.edu/pepperdinelaw ... tudent.htm
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Are you from Fresno or was it a freak accident that you discovered this?

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby The Gentleman » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:50 am

r6_philly wrote:If employers reacted negatively to you past 2-3 minutes into the interview, it isn't the 4.0's problem. If you are likable and interview well, you should be able to charm your interviewers into liking whatever your resume says. That's the point of the interview: finding out what your character is like.


LOL This could be the case. Maybe I have a serious character flaw or acted like a giant douche during some interviews.

But I'm pretty sure that a few potential employers were turned off specifically by my GPA.

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby r6_philly » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:51 am

WhiteCochran wrote:
im_blue wrote:A 3.99 at Harvard is most likely rarer than a 179, since only 6 people have gotten a 4.0 since 1982. The most recent 4.0 grad ended up at Pepperdine Law.

http://law.pepperdine.edu/pepperdinelaw ... tudent.htm
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Are you from Fresno or was it a freak accident that you discovered this?



You could always google "4.0 GPA" ...

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby s0ph1e2007 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:52 am

The Stig wrote:
s0ph1e2007 wrote:I mean... they're both great... I think a 3.99 has more weight in admissions than a 179 though so I guess I would rather not have a 179, if we're talking one or the other (which I understand was not OPs original intention)


I would think otherwise...I bet there are more 3.99+ LSAC GPAs than there are 179-180s....


I am very probably biased.
No one at my school EVER graduates with a 4.0. Valedictorian for years has been a 3.9_. Three years ago it was -^-3.89

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby im_blue » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:52 am

WhiteCochran wrote:
im_blue wrote:A 3.99 at Harvard is most likely rarer than a 179, since only 6 people have gotten a 4.0 since 1982. The most recent 4.0 grad ended up at Pepperdine Law.

http://law.pepperdine.edu/pepperdinelaw ... tudent.htm
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Are you from Fresno or was it a freak accident that you discovered this?

I remembered reading this article seven years ago - found the Fresno story on Google. Now that girl made the most of her UG, went on to do YLS/HBS JD/MBA.

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby r6_philly » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:55 am

The Gentleman wrote:
r6_philly wrote:If employers reacted negatively to you past 2-3 minutes into the interview, it isn't the 4.0's problem. If you are likable and interview well, you should be able to charm your interviewers into liking whatever your resume says. That's the point of the interview: finding out what your character is like.


LOL This could be the case. Maybe I have a serious character flaw or acted like a giant douche during some interviews.

But I'm pretty sure that a few potential employers were turned off specifically by my GPA.


It's on my resume, I feel strongly about earning it. But it fits my personality, I am ultra confident so it supports that. I haven't felt that it was perceived as negative in anyway. Although I doubt they read my education section carefully anyway since everything else is packed.

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby WhiteCochran » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:18 am

r6_philly wrote:You could always google "4.0 GPA" ...

And to think of all my wasted time spent googling "3.65 GPA"...

im_blue wrote:I remembered reading this article seven years ago - found the Fresno story on Google. Now that girl made the most of her UG, went on to do YLS/HBS JD/MBA.

Makes sense. Yeah agreed on the baller status of the girl from '03. Fresno just tends to have low standards (see: Kevin Federline)

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby r6_philly » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:22 am

WhiteCochran wrote:
r6_philly wrote:You could always google "4.0 GPA" ...

And to think of all my wasted time spent googling "3.65 GPA"...


I don't get it. I googled 4.0 GPA when I found out I would graduate with a 4.0 to see how common it was, and I saw that video and read about it before. It was not by freak accident and I was not in Fresno.

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby PDaddy » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:23 am

whymeohgodno wrote:Bad question because perfect gpa is well above a 3.99 (something like a 4.3?).



TINTCR

In a grading system that uses actual grade points for each individual course grade, you cannot grade above a 4.0, which is an A+.

By contrast, a 4.3 is an A+ in a letter grading system.

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby WhiteCochran » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:55 am

r6_philly wrote:
WhiteCochran wrote:
r6_philly wrote:You could always google "4.0 GPA" ...

And to think of all my wasted time spent googling "3.65 GPA"...


I don't get it. I googled 4.0 GPA when I found out I would graduate with a 4.0 to see how common it was, and I saw that video and read about it before. It was not by freak accident and I was not in Fresno.


It just never dawned on me that people google their GPAs (granted, the results for 4.0 are somewhat more interesting than 3.65). I get your curiosity, but I assume you could also ballpark the rarity (at least within your own school) via your transcripts and/or the number of people with latin honors in your commencement program.

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby stratocophic » Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:00 am

3.99 is worse. You can retake a 179 if you're that OCD.

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby motiontodismiss » Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:53 am

I'd much rather be a 179/3.0 than a 161/4.3. The former will get into a lower T14, the latter has no chance.

The ideal would be a 3.5/179.

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby capitalacq » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:48 am

The Gentleman wrote:In some ways, a 3.99 is actually preferable to a 4.00. I've been on a couple of job interviews where employers have reacted negatively to my 4.0 GPA. I think they assumed someone with straight A's must have a serious character flaw or some drawback that's not immediately apparent.

Also, a 3.99 shows that you were challenged at some point in your college career which, IMHO, is a good thing.


not really. i think you just had some character flaw


Anyway, I'd say a 3.99 is worth because GPAs arent weighted equally across courses/majors/schools and if you really want a 4.0 GPA without doing much work, you can pull it off.

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby r6_philly » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:42 am

WhiteCochran wrote:It just never dawned on me that people google their GPAs (granted, the results for 4.0 are somewhat more interesting than 3.65). I get your curiosity, but I assume you could also ballpark the rarity (at least within your own school) via your transcripts and/or the number of people with latin honors in your commencement program.


You can get summa with a 3.75, our valedictorian is a 3.9, and I have no latin honors (they don't like transfers ... I was 3 credits short on requirement). I don't have a LSAC 4.0, only a degree 4.0 (due to 15 YO grades). So all that adds up to my curiosity on how rare it really is, and whether or not I actually have a 4.0.

Anyhow, you should google "what do people google" (haha). I received a book for review last week on the subject, it is hilarious.

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Re: What's Worse a 3.99 or a 179

Postby arhmcpo » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:46 pm

im_blue wrote:
WhiteCochran wrote:
im_blue wrote:A 3.99 at Harvard is most likely rarer than a 179, since only 6 people have gotten a 4.0 since 1982. The most recent 4.0 grad ended up at Pepperdine Law.

http://law.pepperdine.edu/pepperdinelaw ... tudent.htm
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Are you from Fresno or was it a freak accident that you discovered this?

I remembered reading this article seven years ago - found the Fresno story on Google. Now that girl made the most of her UG, went on to do YLS/HBS JD/MBA.


To answer OP, "Either".
As an update to im_blue 'Fresno Girl' will be a Summer Assocaite at OMM next summer after. Not a bad deal.




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