Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby Marionberry » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:26 pm

DoctorNo wrote: I guess my concern now is if my science-related grades and scores and such would confer me any advantage or disadvantage as a law school applicant.


Not really. It would be considered a soft.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby DoctorNo » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:29 pm

Marionberry wrote:
DoctorNo wrote: I guess my concern now is if my science-related grades and scores and such would confer me any advantage or disadvantage as a law school applicant.


Not really. It would be considered a soft.


Sorry if this is stupid, but what does that mean?

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby Marionberry » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:36 pm

Sorry, I forgot you're new to this. A "soft" is a "soft factor" in your application. Basically, the law school admissions process is largely(read:almost entirely) driven by your ug GPA and LSAT score. Softs rarely make a significant difference, unless you cured cancer or went back in time and killed Hitler. Normally the only purpose they have is to distinguish you from applicants with similar numbers.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby calvmpv » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:37 pm

DoctorNo wrote:Now I'm bored of it, bored with science, hospitals and patients.


You might get bored of law school, firms, and clients even faster. :?

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby DreamShake » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:41 pm

gdane5 wrote:
DoctorNo wrote:
Fair enough, but by that point I'll be thirty-some years old, $200,000 in debt, probably with a kid or two.

Dont become a baby daddy.


This made me lol. Cuz it's the right thing to say.


Seriously, though...OP, you said earlier that money wasn't an issue. Now you're citing it as a limiting factor. Curious contradiction.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby canuck » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:44 pm

This thread is hilarious. You all want to go to law school, yet all seem to think it is a terrible choice that will lead to boredom and crap job prospects.

This is highly anecdotal, but I just had dinner with a friend in 1L and she is loving it. She loves what she is learning and who she is learning it with.

Maybe be a little more optimistic folks. We aren't all marching through the gates of hell!

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby floppymex » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:51 pm

canuck wrote:This thread is hilarious. You all want to go to law school, yet all seem to think it is a terrible choice that will lead to boredom and crap job prospects.

This is highly anecdotal, but I just had dinner with a friend in 1L and she is loving it. She loves what she is learning and who she is learning it with.

Maybe be a little more optimistic folks. We aren't all marching through the gates of hell!


Hell doesn't have a grade curve.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby rinkrat19 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:56 pm

DoctorNo wrote:Memorization of copious useless detail is not interesting in any way.


And you think law school will be better in that regard?

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby buckilaw » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:01 pm

DoctorNo wrote: Oh I didn't mean by quantity, but by quality. To me, they are far more interesting. Be it as a lawyer, a lobbyist or working in public service. The prospect of being in a hospital all day for the rest of my life has turned out to be a very depressing thought.



I've worked in politics. I can tell you from first hand experience that lobbyists with M.D's are highly regarded, at least in regard to insurance reform / healthcare. If you want to lobby seriously consider going this route; IMHO it's probably much easier to lobby with a M.D than a J.D.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby JazzOne » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:03 pm

floppymex wrote:
canuck wrote:This thread is hilarious. You all want to go to law school, yet all seem to think it is a terrible choice that will lead to boredom and crap job prospects.

This is highly anecdotal, but I just had dinner with a friend in 1L and she is loving it. She loves what she is learning and who she is learning it with.

Maybe be a little more optimistic folks. We aren't all marching through the gates of hell!


Hell doesn't have a grade curve.

+1

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby buckilaw » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:04 pm

canuck wrote:This thread is hilarious. You all want to go to law school, yet all seem to think it is a terrible choice that will lead to boredom and crap job prospects.

This is highly anecdotal, but I just had dinner with a friend in 1L and she is loving it. She loves what she is learning and who she is learning it with.

Maybe be a little more optimistic folks. We aren't all marching through the gates of hell!


Take a survey of your friend's class right after 2L OCI.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby IAFG » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:08 pm

DoctorNo wrote:My girlfriend is a 1L at a T14 school

lol bait and switch. coming back to this next time someone tells me to date a med student.

also, get your MD and THEN go to LS. a partial degree is worthless.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby JazzOne » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:08 pm

buckilaw wrote:
canuck wrote:This thread is hilarious. You all want to go to law school, yet all seem to think it is a terrible choice that will lead to boredom and crap job prospects.

This is highly anecdotal, but I just had dinner with a friend in 1L and she is loving it. She loves what she is learning and who she is learning it with.

Maybe be a little more optimistic folks. We aren't all marching through the gates of hell!


Take a survey of your friend's class right after 2L OCI.

lol

Even the ones who did well are pissed at that point!

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby JazzOne » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:08 pm

IAFG wrote:get your MD and THEN go to LS. a partial degree is worthless.

+1

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby canuck » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:12 pm

If you guys and girls are going to hate your life in law school and afterwards then don't go! Quit b*tching about how hard it all is. Most jobs suck. People dig holes, crunch numbers and serve food to arrogant customers all day. You have the chance to learn a new language, do interesting and meaningful work, and make way more $$$ than the average person doing it.

It's going to be awesome.

OP: if you hate med school, drop out and look into whether you might be interested in law. Even if you go a different direction, it's not worth wasting your life doing something you don't like because there is a general shortage of ppl doing that job in the US.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby IAFG » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:14 pm

canuck wrote:It's going to be awesome.

i would lol if my legal writing prof had not sucked out my soul. i seem to have lost my ability to laugh.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby JazzOne » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:16 pm

canuck wrote:If you guys and girls are going to hate your life in law school and afterwards then don't go! Quit b*tching about how hard it all is. Most jobs suck. People dig holes, crunch numbers and serve food to arrogant customers all day. You have the chance to learn a new language, do interesting and meaningful work, and make way more $$$ than the average person doing it.

It's going to be awesome.

OP: if you hate med school, drop out and look into whether you might be interested in law. Even if you go a different direction, it's not worth wasting your life doing something you don't like because there is a general shortage of ppl doing that job in the US.

^ has not been through OCI

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby DoctorNo » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:17 pm

DreamShake wrote:
gdane5 wrote:
DoctorNo wrote:
Fair enough, but by that point I'll be thirty-some years old, $200,000 in debt, probably with a kid or two.

Dont become a baby daddy.


This made me lol. Cuz it's the right thing to say.


Seriously, though...OP, you said earlier that money wasn't an issue. Now you're citing it as a limiting factor. Curious contradiction.


True, true. But 200,000 in debt for a degree I wouldn't use is what I consider a misuse of my family's money whereas I wouldn't have trouble rationalizing using it to supplement potential poverty as an unemployed lawyer. Sounds convoluted, eh?

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby DoctorNo » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:19 pm

buckilaw wrote:
DoctorNo wrote: Oh I didn't mean by quantity, but by quality. To me, they are far more interesting. Be it as a lawyer, a lobbyist or working in public service. The prospect of being in a hospital all day for the rest of my life has turned out to be a very depressing thought.



I've worked in politics. I can tell you from first hand experience that lobbyists with M.D's are highly regarded, at least in regard to insurance reform / healthcare. If you want to lobby seriously consider going this route; IMHO it's probably much easier to lobby with a M.D than a J.D.



Thank you for this! I suppose this makes sense. What if I don't want to lobby for anything science or medical-related?

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby DoctorNo » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:20 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:
DoctorNo wrote:Memorization of copious useless detail is not interesting in any way.


And you think law school will be better in that regard?


Trust me when I say medical school memorization blows the shit out of anything law school memorization requires. This isn't a cockiness thing, fuck, I can barely get by. I mean memorizing every sentence on a slide, including footnotes that are test material occasionally.

Motherfucking COPII vesicles and CTFR mutations...pissed me off.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby BaiAilian2013 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:21 pm

FWIW I met an alum of my school who quit a prestigious medical job (head of a surgery dept. I think) to go to law school because he missed thinking. He said he loves being a lawyer because it's a different intellectual challenge every day. So you might not be nuts.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby DoctorNo » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:22 pm

calvmpv wrote:
DoctorNo wrote:Now I'm bored of it, bored with science, hospitals and patients.


You might get bored of law school, firms, and clients even faster. :?


This could very well be true, I suppose. I've just come to realize that 90% of patients have some combination of the same 5 ailments, same 10 treatments. Especially if you're a GP/IM/FP. Everyone else goes to specialists (they do more interesting shit) to get fixed. I doubt I have the grades or ability to become anything besides those, so I know the boredom that lies ahead.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby DoctorNo » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:22 pm

BaiAilian2013 wrote:FWIW I met an alum of my school who quit a prestigious medical job (head of a surgery dept. I think) to go to law school because he missed thinking. He said he loves being a lawyer because it's a different intellectual challenge every day. So you might not be nuts.


This is worth a lot to me, thanks!

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby lshamlet » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:24 pm

Don't do it. I'm begging you for your sake. Don't.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby canuck » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:25 pm

BaiAilian2013 wrote:FWIW I met an alum of my school who quit a prestigious medical job (head of a surgery dept. I think) to go to law school because he missed thinking. He said he loves being a lawyer because it's a different intellectual challenge every day. So you might not be nuts.


Boom




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