Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby IAFG » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:53 pm

MysticalWheel wrote:Way off. I wonder how funny it'll be for you guys when you're looking at barely breaking the top 10% in your class, lol.
MW

HA. if i break top 10%, i don't care by how slim a margin i manage it.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby JazzOne » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:59 pm

MysticalWheel wrote:Way off. I wonder how funny it'll be for you guys when you're looking at barely breaking into the top 10% of your class at...Chicago, or worse, NYU! lol.
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MysticalWheel:

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby chup » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:03 pm

MysticalWheel wrote:I wonder how funny it'll be for you guys when you're looking at barely breaking into the top 10% of your class at...Chicago, or worse, NYU! lol.
MW

Sup.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby treeborn » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:17 pm

JazzOne wrote:
chup wrote:The exchange between Ragged and MysticalWheel reminds me of the Large Hadron Collider.

Except with retarded people, instead of particles.

lol

Isn't that TLS in general? It's the world's largest retard collider.


Any online forum is the world's largest retard collider. ;)

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby IAFG » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:33 pm

chup wrote:
MysticalWheel wrote:I wonder how funny it'll be for you guys when you're looking at barely breaking into the top 10% of your class at...Chicago, or worse, NYU! lol.
MW

Sup.

pshht you think you're impressive? MW is going to end up at DLA Piper and the next year, they will overtake WLRK on the vault rankings fueled by his prestige.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby MTal » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:35 pm

Stay in med school.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby Ragged » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:41 pm

MysticalWheel wrote:
Ragged wrote:
MysticalWheel wrote:Gosh, I'm not even out the door yet!

Sorry to break it to you, but I kind of already won the argument; you can tell yourself whatever you need to. I never redefined anything: go look up "law" in a dictionary, and you'll see that there are probably more than 20 entries. The word is not quarantined to written text that is enforced by police and courts. Once again, you are thinking one-dimensionally, only in the present context. The funny thing is that I don't even need the American Revolution example: law is more important, overall, to SOCIETY than medicine- period.

MW


:lol: :lol:

And to think that I was taking you seriously.


If that's your way of conceding the argument, I accept. It's funny to think how the "to think I was taking you seriously" line would actually work in a professional setting, LOL.

Ragged wrote:"The dictionary is not a valid source for citing definitions of words."
ROFL- I've never seen someone lose an argument so badly.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
MW



I did not say the above quote about the dictionary.

I gtg for now, I guess I will read/address most of your posts when I get back or maybe tommorow.

Also, even though I disagree with you, I respect your oppinion. I would appreciate if you extanded me the same courtesy - i.e. cut down on personal attacks and attempts at ridicule.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby mrmangs » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:45 pm

One thing I do enjoy is that Mystic Wheel always signs off with a "MW," just in case we didn't know who was posting.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby mrmangs » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:46 pm

JazzOne wrote:
MysticalWheel wrote:Way off. I wonder how funny it'll be for you guys when you're looking at barely breaking into the top 10% of your class at...Chicago, or worse, NYU! lol.
MW

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Lmao. Damn Jazz you're a funny guy.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby MysticalWheel » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:07 pm

Ragged wrote:
MysticalWheel wrote:
Ragged wrote:
:lol: :lol:

And to think that I was taking you seriously.


If that's your way of conceding the argument, I accept. It's funny to think how the "to think I was taking you seriously" line would actually work in a professional setting, LOL.

Ragged wrote:"The dictionary is not a valid source for citing definitions of words."
ROFL- I've never seen someone lose an argument so badly.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
MW



I did not say the above quote about the dictionary.

I gtg for now, I guess I will read/address most of your posts when I get back or maybe tommorow.

Also, even though I disagree with you, I respect your oppinion. I would appreciate if you extanded me the same courtesy - i.e. cut down on personal attacks and attempts at ridicule.


I know you didn't say the quote above, but you implied a similar sentiment in one of your earlier posts. "Law" has over 20 definitions on dictionary.com, and 17 in my printed M-W dictionary.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby Turtledove » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:33 pm

This has to be one of the most asinine discussions I've ever seen on TLS. I'm surprised no one has commented on this gem from MW yet.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby whymeohgodno » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:34 pm

Turtledove wrote:This has to be one of the most asinine discussions I've ever seen on TLS. I'm surprised no one has commented on this gem from MW yet.

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You forgot to end it with "MW"

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby DreamShake » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:35 pm

BruceWayne wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
People are making this way too black and white. If he genuinely wants to be a lawyer, I would wholeheartedly recommend going to HYS for law over any med school. The other thing is that a lot of the 1L and 2L's in here fail to realize that the truth is that there is traditional profession where it's all roses--period. If that's what you are looking for you are living in a dream world. As a previous poster mentioned, doctors spend years in residency only making 40-50K while they have to make payments on 200K + loans. On top of that medical school is 4 years and downright grueling. People keep pointing out lawyers low job satisfaction, the reality is that modern day doctors are experiencing the same thing. On top of that unless you are a specialist (which is becoming extraordinarily competitive) the money in medicine isn't nearly as "models and bottles" as many of you are making it out to be. I've got a family friend who's a doctor who is just plain getting exhausted with it. Between sky high malpractice insurance, constantly having to take tests to stay certified, and the hours that can come with the truly big dollar doctor positions (ie surgeons) it's not all roses like many on here think it is.

I can also tell that a lot of people in here don't realize just how much more difficult med school is than law school--it's absolutely grueling. The material is much more difficult. The most important thing that people are missing is that medicine is supposed to be an altruistic profession--almost a calling. If someone has doubts about being a doctor, even moreso than if they have doubts about being a lawyer, they shouldn't do it. The last thing people need is doctors who don't really love what they are doing and who are doing more for the money. It's one thing to be a lawyer or a business man for the money, it's something entirely different to be a doctor and have that as your motivation;You are handling people's literal lives.


In all fairness, some of the most idiotic, futile arguments I've ever heard have come from (highly-paid, well-regarded, influential) doctors. I doubt very much that med school is intrinsically more difficult simply on the basis that such idiocy probably would not endure through such an education. Med school may certainly require heavier use of skills uncommonly emphasized in law school, but the converse is also true--doctors generally cannot write or form cogent arguments for shit.

And the notion/implication that medicine actually is an altruistic profession or that it actually draws in large proportions altruistic individuals is hilarious. Doctors are in it for money and prestige. Otherwise, many prices wouldn't be so exorbitant; they wouldn't be passing out medicine like candy or favor certain brands over others; and there would be many, many more doctors working in clinics and hospitals that are accessible to the economically disadvantaged. Don't kid yourself--doctors are just as bad as, if not worse than, lawyers. (Probably worse, because their corporate whoring is often hidden behind a facade of altruism, whereas lawyers seem to be fairly open about their less benevolent motives.)

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby JazzOne » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:42 pm

BruceWayne wrote:I can also tell that a lot of people in here don't realize just how much more difficult med school is than law school--it's absolutely grueling.

Sure, it's easy to get median grades in law school and skate by. But then, you won't have a freakin' job. I suppose law school is easier in the sense that the minimum bar to pass is lower, but the students at the top who are getting the biglaw jobs work just as hard as medical students. This semester, I'm taking 17 hours, I'm on law review, I am involved in a legal research organization, and I worked part-time teaching LSAT. I also did OCI this semester, flew in and out of town every other weekend for interviews, and landed two offers. And I'm completing my law review note by Christmas so I can publish early. If you want to succeed in law, this shit ain't no joke.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby DoubleChecks » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:47 pm

JazzOne wrote:
BruceWayne wrote:I can also tell that a lot of people in here don't realize just how much more difficult med school is than law school--it's absolutely grueling.

Sure, it's easy to get median grades in law school and skate by. But then, you won't have a freakin' job. I suppose law school is easier in the sense that the minimum bar to pass is lower, but the students at the top who are getting the biglaw jobs work just as hard as medical students. This semester, I'm taking 17 hours, I'm on law review, I am involved in a legal research organization, and I worked part-time teaching LSAT. I also did OCI this semester, flew in and out of town every other weekend for interviews, and landed two offers. And I'm completing my law review note by Christmas so I can publish early. If you want to succeed in law, this shit ain't no joke.


oh man, grats -- though at the same time, thats scary lol

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby DreamShake » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:49 pm

JazzOne wrote:
BruceWayne wrote:I can also tell that a lot of people in here don't realize just how much more difficult med school is than law school--it's absolutely grueling.

Sure, it's easy to get median grades in law school and skate by. But then, you won't have a freakin' job. I suppose law school is easier in the sense that the minimum bar to pass is lower, but the students at the top who are getting the biglaw jobs work just as hard as medical students. This semester, I'm taking 17 hours, I'm on law review, I am involved in a legal research organization, and I worked part-time teaching LSAT. I also did OCI this semester, flew in and out of town every other weekend for interviews, and landed two offers. And I'm completing my law review note by Christmas so I can publish early. If you want to succeed in law, this shit ain't no joke.


On average, how many hours of sleep do you get?? Do people outside of your classes know you exist??

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby JazzOne » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:50 pm

DoubleChecks wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
BruceWayne wrote:I can also tell that a lot of people in here don't realize just how much more difficult med school is than law school--it's absolutely grueling.

Sure, it's easy to get median grades in law school and skate by. But then, you won't have a freakin' job. I suppose law school is easier in the sense that the minimum bar to pass is lower, but the students at the top who are getting the biglaw jobs work just as hard as medical students. This semester, I'm taking 17 hours, I'm on law review, I am involved in a legal research organization, and I worked part-time teaching LSAT. I also did OCI this semester, flew in and out of town every other weekend for interviews, and landed two offers. And I'm completing my law review note by Christmas so I can publish early. If you want to succeed in law, this shit ain't no joke.


oh man, grats -- though at the same time, thats scary lol

Fuck yeah it was scary. I didn't get my first offer until October 20. All Most of my friends had their shit locked and loaded, and I was freakin' out.

Edit: Oops, almost forgot. There were a few casualties.
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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby JazzOne » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:51 pm

DreamShake wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
BruceWayne wrote:I can also tell that a lot of people in here don't realize just how much more difficult med school is than law school--it's absolutely grueling.

Sure, it's easy to get median grades in law school and skate by. But then, you won't have a freakin' job. I suppose law school is easier in the sense that the minimum bar to pass is lower, but the students at the top who are getting the biglaw jobs work just as hard as medical students. This semester, I'm taking 17 hours, I'm on law review, I am involved in a legal research organization, and I worked part-time teaching LSAT. I also did OCI this semester, flew in and out of town every other weekend for interviews, and landed two offers. And I'm completing my law review note by Christmas so I can publish early. If you want to succeed in law, this shit ain't no joke.


On average, how many hours of sleep do you get?? Do people outside of your classes know you exist??

lol

I've been sleeping a lot better since I got my offers, thanks. I have a few close friends, but I'm not much of a socialite. I've made a lot friends through law review, actually.
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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby MysticalWheel » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:07 am

whymeohgodno wrote:
Turtledove wrote:This has to be one of the most asinine discussions I've ever seen on TLS. I'm surprised no one has commented on this gem from MW yet.

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You forgot to end it with "MW"


Yeah, that quote was maybe a little bit over the top. Too bad patriotism is nonexistent on this board otherwise...<sigh>.

MW

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby northwood » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:09 am

nope.. its not

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby MysticalWheel » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:12 am

northwood wrote:nope.. its not

Excellent!

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby DreamShake » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:13 am

MysticalWheel wrote:Yeah, that quote was maybe a little bit over the top. Too bad patriotism is nonexistent on this board otherwise...<sigh>.

MW


"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."

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JazzOne wrote:
DreamShake wrote:
JazzOne wrote:On average, how many hours of sleep do you get?? Do people outside of your classes know you exist??

lol

I've been sleeping a lot better since I got my offers, thanks. I have a few close friends, but I'm not much of a socialite.


Haha I meant only the first question seriously. How much time do you spend on school-related stuff (on average) on weekdays/weekends?? That seems like a ridiculous workload. Congrats on law review and the OCI success, though.

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby JazzOne » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:18 am

DreamShake wrote:Haha I meant only the first question seriously. How much time do you spend on school-related stuff (on average) on weekdays/weekends?? That seems like a ridiculous workload. Congrats on law review and the OCI success, though.

I honestly don't even know. My life has been turned upside down by law school. I can't remember the last time I wasn't busy. Even my vacations are busy. We had our law review write-on competition right after finals last semester, and then I had a memo due for the legal research organization around mid-summer. I started my 1L SA job around July. I have to spend Christmas break here for law review, and I'll probably be here for spring break if I decide to run for editorial board. I have 14 weeks off this summer; eight of them will be at one firm and six at another.
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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby MysticalWheel » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:18 am

DreamShake wrote:
MysticalWheel wrote:Yeah, that quote was maybe a little bit over the top. Too bad patriotism is nonexistent on this board otherwise...<sigh>.

MW


"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."


"I like to see a man proud of the place in which he lives. I like to see a man live so that his place will be proud of him."

MW

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Re: Medical Student here looking to jump ship...

Postby DreamShake » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:26 am

MysticalWheel wrote:
DreamShake wrote:
MysticalWheel wrote:Yeah, that quote was maybe a little bit over the top. Too bad patriotism is nonexistent on this board otherwise...<sigh>.

MW


"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."


"I like to see a man proud of the place in which he lives. I like to see a man live so that his place will be proud of him."

MW


Notice that the guy who said that started a civil war? Not sure of the context of that quote, but it itself isn't directly in contradiction to the one I cited. In fact, if you adopt the perspective of the Einstein quote, yours supports it.


JazzOne, your life scares me. I'd probably reconsider law school if I hadn't spent my senior year taking 21 hours a semester/writing a thesis/working on the student paper/also tutoring for the LSAT. Relative to your studies and working, how much time do law review and the research org seem to take up? Do you mostly work on them during academic breaks?




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