jawsthegreat wrote:More than any other school in the T14, and probably the country, admissions at UVA are based upon truly WANTING to attend the school. There is a very special culture and atmosphere that is present in every aspect of the school, and I would be willing to bet is not present at pretty much any other law school in the nation. This atmosphere and mentality is passed down from class to class because the students that come to school here truly wanted to and have bought into the "UVA culture." If you don't want to attend UVA and are just applying because it is in the T14, that's fine, but they aren't going to accept you. Now if you truly want to come here, and have a compelling story to tell and can articulate it in an essay, then by all means go ahead. However, if you can't the only way to truly show your commitment is by pulling the trigger on ED. There are over 7,000 applications each year, for only 220 out of state spots in the class, if you don't differentiate yourself somehow, you are going to get WL/Rejected. Just simple facts.
If these are the "Simple Facts" UVA needs to change its application process so that it doesn't waste the time and money of many qualified applicants. I'm not asking UVA to be a school it's not. I'm asking UVA to come to terms with what it is. There are two schools in the t14 who skate by with niche application processes (UVA & NW). At least northwestern's makes sense (well at least more sense to me), and they make it very clear that work experience & interviews are a major factor in the admissions process. UVA simply seduces applicants, who for every good reason should believe they will probably be accepted due to their numbers being above the figures for the school, and they don't even make a case for "Why X" essays, or the over-importance of ED at the school. Penn and Michigan clearly outline the choices and opportunities for additional essays, why can't UVA?
This thread was just one guy getting a reading on the importance of why UVA, and then commenting on it that it really makes no sense in his opinion. And that's it. And it was a perfectly logical opinion with data to back it up. Not necessarily right, not necessarily wrong. Just a guy that thinks it's very shitty of a school to waste a bunch of qualified applicants time just to waitlist them because they're pretty sure the applicants will end up going to other schools given the choice between the two, even though that applications put forth are generally stronger than those they know they can lock in. Again, this is just an opinion.
The fact that a bunch of students who got into t14 schools due to these processes (which again, my strong OPINION is that you were admitted to protect their yield percentage and not because your demonstration of commitment to the school was just super-fantastic) are arguing against kind of brings a question of bias into play. God forbid you're forced to come to terms with the fact that people are getting screwed over for no good reason (again, my opinion) due to your schools admissions process, which benefits YOU, the reverse splitters who were able to raise their yield percentage. If you truly think it was about who "wanted it the most" because "that's just UVA's culture," take a look at the other couple thousand people who would die to get into UVA or any t14 for that matter, but don't have the stats. You just happened to be the people with highest stats that they could lock in for their acceptance rate & Yield percentage.
Now please, stop derailing (or continuing) this thread. If you hate people that complain about admissions processes wasting applicants time, start a new one.
And just as a note, he didn't mean "Diversity" between people who love UVA and people who hate it. That's kind of what we're trying to tell you. Just because you didn't ED to UVA or write a Why UVA doesn't necessarily say a damn thing about your commitment to the school...