Gypsy= URM?

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Gypsy= URM?

Postby agenthero » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:25 am

If I'm a gypsy (Irish Traveler), do I qualify as a URM? Should I include addendum?

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Ragged
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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby Ragged » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:26 am

I don't think so. Sorry.

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby St.Remy » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:37 am

You can write a DS, but no you won't be considered a URM.

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby agenthero » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:41 am

Even if I'm the first in my clan to go to law school? :oops:

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby St.Remy » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:45 am

agenthero wrote:Even if I'm the first in my clan to go to law school? :oops:


Since this fact has nothing to do with being a URM, no. Again, add it to a diversity statement.

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby Ragged » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:00 pm

agenthero wrote:Even if I'm the first in my clan to go to law school? :oops:


^^^^^ That just sounds sooo cool.

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby Ginj » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:02 pm

Ragged wrote:
agenthero wrote:Even if I'm the first in my clan to go to law school? :oops:


^^^^^ That just sounds sooo cool.


Seconded.

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby vanwinkle » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:32 pm

You're not URM, but URM is just the most visible part of diversity admissions. You could still get a diversity boost if you write a DS. Anything that adds diversity can help, and "first I'm my group" stuff helps (as does Amy adversity or socioeconomic disadvantage you faced as a member of your group). Good luck.

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby tk4386 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:38 pm

Ah, too bad it's not URM. I am 1/8 Gypsy. True story.

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby MysticalWheel » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:45 pm

I thought "gypsy" was un-pc?

MW

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby Ragged » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:46 pm

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby Remnantofisrael » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:53 pm

I echo the PS thing. You could make a case that even though you aren't a traditional URM, you still ARE an under represented minority in the ACTUAL sense, not just the sense of the color of your skin.

-the following is a joke-

You could talk about how your clan has wandered the shores of the green isle, sleeping under distilleries and living off of the sweet whiskey nectar that drips beneath the floor boards. As your betrothed goes out to sell her hand-made wares, crafted from soda cans and other rubbish, your father plays his accordion while your mother dances in the pale moonlight for shillings, hoping one day to move up the corporate ladder and dance directly for Curt Schilling. But after the local tom-cats moved in (not a name of a gang. Actual tom cats) your clan was forced to move to the wooded inlands where you subsisted off acorns and found mushrooms, and made hooch out of a mix of rotten crab-apples and grandma-spit. Then one day the evil ruler of the lands took a liking to your sister, stole her away to be married. Now the only hope your clan has is to get you through law school so that you may sue for a variety of misdeeds, especially since according to a few LSAT reading comp sections, your clan isn't recognized as having legal national citizen rights. You must go to law school.

Or you could befriend some werewolves.

-end joke (which wasn't funny at all)-

In all seriousness, IF you have a good story to tell about why being an Irish-gypsy makes you unique and/or downtrodden by the "man", then it would be cool to focus on. If its just "My daddy said we were gypsies! He said so when we went on a vacation to ireland after his yearly bonus at Goliath National Bank came in!" then I would just not even go down that road.

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby Remnantofisrael » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:57 pm

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you win the internet, you scottish spaniard you.

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby vicuna » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:08 pm

I would definitely include both a DS and a vial of your tears. Good luck.
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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby agenthero » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:12 pm

Is there anyone that's had success as a gypsy in law school? Where did you go? Did you face the usual ignorance and persecution? I appreciate the PS advice- right now, mine ends: "I know my numbers are below your medians, but I'm confident I'd be a steal for your school."

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby Remnantofisrael » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:31 pm

that's not confidence. That's arrogance. Why would you be a steal? Why are you so much better than the students they'll already get? Instead of saying that you would be a steal, show them you would be a steal in the rest of the PS/DS.

Also, I hope you aren't offended by my joke- consider it playing off the common ignorance. If I was in admissions and I got a diversity statement that dealt with being a person without a nation so to speak, I would think, "damn, this could be a really unique student to get in the mix." I would focus on not just how your nationality/etc. differs, but really on how your perspective is different than most people's. I think this is what they want when they talk about "diversity".

It might help if you tell us your approx scores (specific is better of course) and what schools you are looking at.

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby Ragged » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:52 pm

agenthero wrote:Is there anyone that's had success as a gypsy in law school? Where did you go? Did you face the usual ignorance and persecution? I appreciate the PS advice- right now, mine ends: "I know my numbers are below your medians, but I'm confident I will steal alot of horses for your school."


ftfy

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby agenthero » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:13 pm

Would it help my chances if I submitted an addendum explaining that
I would be willing to help out around the law school as far as construction projects go? Am
I just grasping at straws, here?

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby JakeL » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:14 pm

Sounds like you are gonna get gypped by admitions on being an URM, but good luck with that PS!

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby s0ph1e2007 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:16 pm

agenthero wrote:Would it help my chances if I submitted an addendum explaining that
I would be willing to help out around the law school as far as construction projects go? Am
I just grasping at straws, here?


ha flame

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Re: Gypsy= URM?

Postby SilverE2 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:16 pm

agenthero wrote:Would it help my chances if I submitted an addendum explaining that
I would be willing to help out around the law school as far as construction projects go? Am
I just grasping at straws, here?


Help out with construction projects??? Seriously?

Dude, just focus on raising your LSAT. Goddamn.




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