reasonable_man wrote:boat343 wrote:Man, this stuff is gold. You guys really go at it on here.
I have no experience in the matter, but, I would surmise that if you do well at Hofstra, you will be ok. They do have a ridiculously high average starting salary. Obviously, they played with the numbers because we all know it is not par-for-the-course for Hofstra grads to be making a median of 160k. However, some are making that--it's an objective fact. More than likely, the top 10% of the class at Hofstra (or any of the decent New York law schools for that matter) land great jobs. Now, I know you can't just say, "well, I'm gonna be top 10%" due to all the variables and such. But, if you don't make top 10% at Hofstra, you might not have been able to do it anywhere else. In that case, it would be on me and I failed.
Unless I do get a tremendous offer for a great career opportunity, my ultimate goal is to go back into the military in the JAG program. There are loan forgiveness options associated with that. Also, I'm dirt poor so I'm sure I qualify for some kind of grant, as well as having some GI bill left. I believe my debt will be more around 135k. And, it's gonna be that anywhere not named Phoenix College Law.
I don't have great options due to the all-knowing all-wise standardized test of standardized tests, so I'm gonna kinda get what I get. I know it's not optimal, but, I'm not the prodigy that is ever gonna bang-out a 170--or even a 165 for that matter. However, after reading how some people studied for the LSAT I know realize I probbbbaaably could have done a little more... I just took the Kaplan classes, did the homework and called it good.
Thank you all for the insight. This has been really helpful/entertaining.
Umm.. Wow... If you believe that the top 10% of Hofstra gets "great" jobs; you really are kidding yourself... I personally know a good handful of Hofstra Law grads that were in the top 10% and enjoyed an extended period of unemployment following their graduation from good ole Hofstra and then took jobs earning 50 to 70k... That's the top 10%... I'd hate to even guess how the poor slobs at the median faired..
Also, to which LRAP at Hofrsta are you referencing here? Cause I'm pretty sure Hofstra isn't going to help you re-pay any loans, no matter what kind of work you're doing..
Man, nobody is getting jobs. I have friends that graduated from the University of Arizona--a school that always does great regionally--and here we are 6 months after graduation and they are taking unpaid internships just to keep their resume going. I have two friends that went to UCLA. One admits he was pretty damn lucky to get a job and the other is still unemployed. People used to get great summer jobs while they were in law school. Now, people are fighting for unpaid internships over the summer.
It's a terrible economy and not many people are hiring. The only thing we can bank on is that it will bounce back and jobs will open up. And, if it does, even people at Hofstra, Texas Tech, or that Q school in Connecticut will find employment somewhere and in some capacity. And, the debt is sizable, but, in the grand scheme of things, as long as you're not a turd and sit around and pout because you didn't get a "big law" job right out of law school, you will be ok in the long run with a JD. Take a 50-75k year job; bust your tail off and move up.
In the end, the prudent decision is to retake the LSAT, which I more than likely will do. Good advice. I appreciate the time. Definitely some realism I need to consider as I move forward.