Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

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Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby chalhou1 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:23 pm

I didnt do well on it and wondering if it will harm me on the application

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby taxguy » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:31 pm

What you get on your ACT, SAT, GMAT , GRE are irrelevant. It is the LSAT that is all important and your GPA...period.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby whymeohgodno » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:33 pm

no

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby FishOil » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:48 pm

:shock:

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JazzOne
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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby JazzOne » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:49 pm

They'll use it to publicly mock you during orientation.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby djjf39 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:51 pm

JazzOne wrote:They'll use it to publicly mock you during orientation.


I thought this was only done at Duke...ya know before they blind-fold all the 1Ls and bring out the goat.

OP, I call flame.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby WhiteCochran » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:14 pm

On at least one school's application (University of Houston I think?), there is a question that approximately asks "Do you have a history of outperforming your standardized test results?", which is followed by a section to report your SAT/ACT score (translation: did you bomb the SAT/ACT in high school but manage to do exceedingly well in college?). It comes off as a built-in opportunity to justify why the school shouldn't automatically ding you if you happen to have a low LSAT, so it might actually be better if you scored low on the ACT back in the day. Using my not-even-a-real-law-student logic, the only way I see it being relevant is if 1) you're borderline at a given school and 2) you're borderline specifically because of your LSAT.


Disclaimer: This is my first post so feel free to flame/correct me if I'm way off

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby JazzOne » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:16 pm

WhiteCochran wrote:On at least one school's application (University of Houston I think?), there is a question that approximately asks "Do you have a history of outperforming your standardized test results?", which is followed by a section to report your SAT/ACT score (translation: did you bomb the SAT/ACT in high school but manage to do exceedingly well in college?). It comes off as a built-in opportunity to justify why the school shouldn't automatically ding you if you happen to have a low LSAT, so it might actually be better if you scored low on the ACT back in the day. Using my not-even-a-real-law-student logic, the only way I see it being relevant is if 1) you're borderline at a given school and 2) you're borderline specifically because of your LSAT.


Disclaimer: This is my first post so feel free to flame/correct me if I'm way off

As far as first posts go, there have been far worse.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby The Gentleman » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:19 pm

WhiteCochran wrote:Disclaimer: This is my first post so feel free to flame/correct me if I'm way off


Not bad for a first post. lol

But seriously, outside of a "I have a history of bombing standardized tests" addendum, do any law schools even ask for this?

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby HBK » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:26 pm

I have never been asked for my ACT score after undergrad. And honestly, I don't even remember what it was.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby WhiteCochran » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:43 pm

JazzOne wrote:As far as first posts go, there have been far worse.

The Gentleman wrote:Not bad for a first post. lol

Is it wrong that I'm uncontrollably fist pumping in celebration right now?

But seriously, outside of a "I have a history of bombing standardized tests" addendum, do any law schools even ask for this?

I noticed more than a few applications (at least 6 out of roughly 20) that have space to report SAT/ACT scores, but a response was optional every time it appeared. So while it doesn't seem totally unusual for a school to ask for the scores, there doesn't appear to be an obligation to report them and their impact seems negligible except possibly for the aforementioned test bombing situation.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby northwood » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:53 pm

i just realized.. my sat score has decereased since i took it.. didnt they overhaul the test and raise the number for a perfect score from 1600 to something higher??

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby acrossthelake » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:06 am

northwood wrote:i just realized.. my sat score has decereased since i took it.. didnt they overhaul the test and raise the number for a perfect score from 1600 to something higher??


It didn't decrease, they just added a section. Math is still out of 800, verbal still out of 800, there's just now a writing section out of 800.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby northwood » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:07 am

well doesnt the older numbers look worse because of this? Or am i just being old and paranoid?

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby acrossthelake » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:09 am

northwood wrote:well doesnt the older numbers look worse because of this? Or am i just being old and paranoid?


No. You just specify you're on the old scale. Why would it look worse? You didn't take one of the sections.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby JazzOne » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:27 am

northwood wrote:well doesnt the older numbers look worse because of this? Or am i just being old and paranoid?

You just look old, that's all.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby JazzOne » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:28 am

WhiteCochran wrote:Is it wrong that I'm uncontrollably fist pumping in celebration right now?

lol

Don't get too carried away, Tiger.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby JG Hall » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:30 am

was the SAT on the SEO app, or am I making shit up?

I'm pretty sure it was.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby ahduth » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:10 am

Lol. I can't stop myself from laughing every time I see this topic. My 35 ACT should get me into Yale, amirite?

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby 4for44 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:17 am

ahduth wrote:Lol. I can't stop myself from laughing every time I see this topic. My 35 ACT should get me into Yale, amirite?


Definitely!!! Oh gosh you should totally put all those supercool high school extracurriculars in your app too!!

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby runningzigzag » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:44 am

The OP must be a FLAME...LSAT is all they care about. SAT and ACT do not matter anymore...whether you scored perfect or scored terribly.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby ResolutePear » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:47 am

Guys, I have to say...

This is just horrible.

This whole thread.

Everybody.

Just,

stop.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby ahduth » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:00 am

ResolutePear wrote:Guys, I have to say...

This is just horrible.

This whole thread.

Everybody.

Just,

stop.


Apparently Madame Ivey tells people with low LSAT scores to write addenda... explaining how they also did poorly on the SAT.

An additional addendum saying, "I did poorly on the ACT too, so there's another reason you should admit me," might help further reinforce the point, no?

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby ResolutePear » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:02 am

ahduth wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:Guys, I have to say...

This is just horrible.

This whole thread.

Everybody.

Just,

stop.


Apparently Madame Ivey tells people with low LSAT scores to write addenda... explaining how they also did poorly on the SAT.

An additional addendum saying, "I did poorly on the ACT too, so there's another reason you should admit me," might help further reinforce the point, no?


Yes, because chronic failure in standardized tests is really going to help the school's numbers with bar passage.

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Re: Do Law schools use your ACT score against you?

Postby JazzOne » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:06 am

ResolutePear wrote:
ahduth wrote:
ResolutePear wrote:Guys, I have to say...

This is just horrible.

This whole thread.

Everybody.

Just,

stop.


Apparently Madame Ivey tells people with low LSAT scores to write addenda... explaining how they also did poorly on the SAT.

An additional addendum saying, "I did poorly on the ACT too, so there's another reason you should admit me," might help further reinforce the point, no?


Yes, because chronic failure in standardized tests is really going to help the school's numbers with bar passage.

Maybe they'll feel better if you follow up with a third addendum to explain the horrible GPA.




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