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Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:40 pm
by beachbum
canuck wrote:You will need to drastically improve your writing skills. If you think you want to do this start training intensively in English now.

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:55 pm
by The Gentleman
W_from China wrote:My English maybe a little wired, though trained a lot and took GRE test already,
OP, what did you score on the verbal section of the GRE? I'm really interested in this thread.

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:47 am
by W_from China
The Gentleman wrote:
W_from China wrote:My English maybe a little wired, though trained a lot and took GRE test already,
OP, what did you score on the verbal section of the GRE? I'm really interested in this thread.
It's "weird"……sorry

Basically, you can get a good score at GRE only by remember all the meaning of words, rather than how to spell them……

And I got 800+600+4 at GRE, not very impressive.

Can you guys stop laughing at the "wired"? I'm a little shame now…… >_<

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:01 am
by The Gentleman
W_from China wrote:Basically, you can get a good score at GRE only by remember all the meaning of words, rather than how to spell them……

And I got 800+600+4 at GRE, not very impressive.
No need to be humble about it OP, that's a pretty impressive score.

I don't really know what advice to offer someone who gets a 179 cold. Best of luck to you OP!

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:12 pm
by 2014
eve2490 wrote:90/100 should be a 3.8/3.9, an 80-85 seems to fit a 3.6-3.7 more, and LSAC will convert your GPA anyway so you will only find out then. If you know anybody from your university that has applied to law school in america, talk to them and see how their gpa converted. Do really well on whatever classes you have now if you have not graduated yet to make your gpa higher while you can.
80-85 is 2.7 - 3.0 in the US, why in the world would LSAC, a US institution, give someone a full 1.0 bump for going to school abroad?

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:48 pm
by Spinach Lover
When I first saw the title, I thought someone retook a 178 and received a 180. I felt so shamed.

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:14 pm
by Arbiter213
Spinach Lover wrote:When I first saw the title, I thought someone retook a 178 and received a 180. I felt so shamed.
A friend of mine in HS took the SAT, but canceled day of. We asked him why, he said "Because I wasn't sure I got a 2400" We thought he was being ridiculous.

He got a 2400 the next month when he took it again.

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:15 pm
by whymeohgodno
Arbiter213 wrote:
Spinach Lover wrote:When I first saw the title, I thought someone retook a 178 and received a 180. I felt so shamed.
A friend of mine in HS took the SAT, but canceled day of. We asked him why, he said "Because I wasn't sure I got a 2400" We thought he was being ridiculous.

He got a 2400 the next month when he took it again.
I know a girl who cried over a 2390 and we had to convince her not to retake for a 2400.

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:44 pm
by deadpoetnsp
2014 wrote:
eve2490 wrote:90/100 should be a 3.8/3.9, an 80-85 seems to fit a 3.6-3.7 more, and LSAC will convert your GPA anyway so you will only find out then. If you know anybody from your university that has applied to law school in america, talk to them and see how their gpa converted. Do really well on whatever classes you have now if you have not graduated yet to make your gpa higher while you can.
80-85 is 2.7 - 3.0 in the US, why in the world would LSAC, a US institution, give someone a full 1.0 bump for going to school abroad?
Because many international scores are not graded on a curve. For example, out of 100 students in a class, only one student may score 75/100, 20% score 60-75, 30% score 50-60, and 50% score <60. In many universities, an 80-85 translates to being in the top 5% of the class. Source of info: international undergraduate degree.

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:24 pm
by ajmanyjah
2014 wrote:
eve2490 wrote:90/100 should be a 3.8/3.9, an 80-85 seems to fit a 3.6-3.7 more, and LSAC will convert your GPA anyway so you will only find out then. If you know anybody from your university that has applied to law school in america, talk to them and see how their gpa converted. Do really well on whatever classes you have now if you have not graduated yet to make your gpa higher while you can.
80-85 is 2.7 - 3.0 in the US, why in the world would LSAC, a US institution, give someone a full 1.0 bump for going to school abroad?
An 85 at my school was an A or A-, and the average of most classes was 70-75

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:49 pm
by Hedwig
I don't think any of my classes are graded on a curve.

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:27 am
by hoper
kazu wrote:An international GPA is not translated into a numerical U.S. GPA equivalent. You will get a ranking of either Superior, Above Average, Average, or Below Average when you submit your transcripts to LSAC.

+1 on 2014 though. You need to come back later with an actual LSAT score.
just wondering, how heavily weighted are these rankings when international kids apply?

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:00 am
by Nulli Secundus
While I have no reason to be suspicious about your practice test scores, why do your posts read like as if they are products of Google Translate?

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:10 am
by LLB2JD
Nulli Secundus wrote:While I have no reason to be suspicious about your practice test scores, why do your posts read like as if they are products of Google Translate?
It is possible they were. I don't think it is a big deal, because at least OP is getting his point across. Maybe s/he is just a little insecure of the potential douchebaggery of some TLS dwellers.

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:22 am
by deadpoetnsp
Nulli Secundus wrote:While I have no reason to be suspicious about your practice test scores, why do your posts read like as if they are products of Google Translate?
Come on Nulli Secundus, I didn't expect this from you.

Snarky reply to your question and a counter-question: Google Translate is getting closer to how human beings actually translate. Does this post read like it is a product of Google Translate too?

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:02 pm
by seven889
I took the GRE and scored way higher than you. However, I did not even get close to a 178 on the LSAT. So if you can actually score a 178 or higher on the LSAT, you must be "wired" for it and should definitely go to law school.


W_from China wrote:
The Gentleman wrote:
W_from China wrote:My English maybe a little wired, though trained a lot and took GRE test already,
OP, what did you score on the verbal section of the GRE? I'm really interested in this thread.
It's "weird"……sorry

Basically, you can get a good score at GRE only by remember all the meaning of words, rather than how to spell them……

And I got 800+600+4 at GRE, not very impressive.

Can you guys stop laughing at the "wired"? I'm a little shame now…… >_<

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:43 pm
by helloperson
I can't understand how anyone could score so high on the LSAT with a mediocre at best command of the English language. The entire test is basically a "how well can you spot the nuance in the language?" thing, and the OP doesn't seem to be very good at that.

However, best of luck to you, OP. You will need to rock the LSAT, and you will also need to write a solid personal statement. Keep in mind that there is a writing portion on the LSAT, and though schools don't actually look too closely at it, I would imagine that a huge discrepancy between the writing in your LSAT writing sample and your personal statement might be a deal breaker at T14 schools. Because you are a foreign applicant, I think there is an increased likelihood law schools will compare your two writing samples.

Re: 3.6/178~180/international student

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:11 pm
by czelede
s0ph1e2007 wrote:
2014 wrote:3.6 is on the lowside for HYS.

Assuming that you can get 178+ is extremely ridiculous. Your chances of doing so are very low even if you can score in that range on practice tests.
TITCR

I averaged 179, got a 173... was lucky with that.
Don't count your chickens before they hatch
Didn't you retake to get a 179 though? I don't know if this is the best example.