Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

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Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby username99 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:59 pm

I heard from an admissions person that if you meet at least one of the medians (she said LSAT specifically), you will be at least waitlisted. This was at a pretty high-ranked school. Has anyone heard this before? Is it accurate??

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby 09042014 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:01 pm

username99 wrote:I heard from an admissions person that if you meet at least one of the medians (she said LSAT specifically), you will be at least waitlisted. This was at a pretty high-ranked school. Has anyone heard this before? Is it accurate??


Every adcom is different. At some schools this is true. At others it's not. I got dinged at Cornell and I was over their Median by 9 lsat points.

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby s0ph1e2007 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:04 pm

not so helpful
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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby username99 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:09 pm

Dude you're a URM in the 170's. You'll have your pick of the litter.

Do adcoms look on here and on lawschoolnumbers for students? Or are we just paranoid?

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby s0ph1e2007 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:11 pm

haha idk maybe paranoid
I feel like my application is a little unique lol yes i think i'm a special snowflake

I feel like non URMs overrate the addition of URM status to an application lol oh well I'll take my shot anyways

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby username99 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:11 pm

Well good luck to you. I think you'll be just fine :wink:

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby lolol10 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:11 pm

have you guys ever heard of trans-racial disorder. do you think that would fly for a harvard app or something?

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby username99 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:12 pm

If they give any sort of bump to the absurdly pale, I'm in!

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby 09042014 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:20 pm

s0ph1e2007 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
username99 wrote:I heard from an admissions person that if you meet at least one of the medians (she said LSAT specifically), you will be at least waitlisted. This was at a pretty high-ranked school. Has anyone heard this before? Is it accurate??


Every adcom is different. At some schools this is true. At others it's not. I got dinged at Cornell and I was over their Median by 9 lsat points.



ALSO: PLEASE DONT QUOTE SO THAT I CAN DELETE THIS AFTER RESPONSE


URM is different. Regular advice doesn't apply.

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby s0ph1e2007 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:22 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
s0ph1e2007 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
username99 wrote:I heard from an admissions person that if you meet at least one of the medians (she said LSAT specifically), you will be at least waitlisted. This was at a pretty high-ranked school. Has anyone heard this before? Is it accurate??


Every adcom is different. At some schools this is true. At others it's not. I got dinged at Cornell and I was over their Median by 9 lsat points.



ALSO: PLEASE DONT QUOTE SO THAT I CAN DELETE THIS AFTER RESPONSE


URM is different. Regular advice doesn't apply.



are you being sarcastic? if you're not then you better elaborate to be useful

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby Grizz » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:23 pm

s0ph1e2007 wrote:are you being sarcastic? if you're not then you better elaborate to be useful


Look at the URMs on LSN and the URM forums. Enjoy.

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby s0ph1e2007 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:24 pm

rad law wrote:
s0ph1e2007 wrote:are you being sarcastic? if you're not then you better elaborate to be useful


Look at the URMs on LSN and the URM forums. Enjoy.


yea i've done that. if you haven't noticed there aren't a lot of URMs on LSN.
anyways, apparently this wasn't helpful. thanks, anyways.

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby username99 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:14 pm

If you look at the graphs on LSN, most of the outliers are URMs. It does suggest that you will have a distinct advantage when you apply. With your numbers, I think you'll be golden. You really cannot underestimate the impact of URM status on an application.

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby voltage88 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:23 pm

rad law wrote:
s0ph1e2007 wrote:are you being sarcastic? if you're not then you better elaborate to be useful


Look at the URMs on LSN and the URM forums. Enjoy.


Because that's a highly representative sample...Did anyone on here even take stats? Know what it is?

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby hokie » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:34 pm

username99 wrote:Dude you're a URM in the 170's. You'll have your pick of the litter.

Do adcoms look on here and on lawschoolnumbers for students? Or are we just paranoid?



You will find all the stats your heart's desire at LSN. You can search specific to GPA, LSAT, URM, etc. When you look, you will see that you will be in VERY good condition.

Why worry about adcoms looking on forums? First, I doubt they have the time to search for each applicant on forums and second, just don't say anything that you think would seriously damage the perception of your character :wink:

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby ahduth » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:51 pm

hokie wrote:Why worry about adcoms looking on forums? First, I doubt they have the time to search for each applicant on forums and second, just don't say anything that you think would seriously damage the perception of your character :wink:


I heard certain T14 schools reserve 5% of the incoming class for people who manage to not act like asshats on TLS.

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby r6_philly » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:20 pm

Someone go make a Yale 2011 thread and sit back and wait :D

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby bdubs » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:42 pm

voltage88 wrote:
rad law wrote:
s0ph1e2007 wrote:are you being sarcastic? if you're not then you better elaborate to be useful


Look at the URMs on LSN and the URM forums. Enjoy.


Because that's a highly representative sample...Did anyone on here even take stats? Know what it is?


I think this is beyond the point. People overplay statistics a bit when it comes to applications. Your GPA/LSAT combo gets you put in one of 3 piles: ding, consider, auto-admit. I think you can still f-up the auto-admit based on numbers if your application is an obvious POS. People here focus on the fact that you can't write your way out of the ding pile easily (if at all).

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:14 am

Desert Fox wrote:
username99 wrote:I heard from an admissions person that if you meet at least one of the medians (she said LSAT specifically), you will be at least waitlisted. This was at a pretty high-ranked school. Has anyone heard this before? Is it accurate??


Every adcom is different. At some schools this is true. At others it's not. I got dinged at Cornell and I was over their Median by 9 lsat points.


That is blatant YP though. And a 176 to Cornell? I don't blame them lol. I don't know why they deny instead of waitlist though -- maybe you were siced for Ithica

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby 09042014 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:25 am

AreJay711 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
username99 wrote:I heard from an admissions person that if you meet at least one of the medians (she said LSAT specifically), you will be at least waitlisted. This was at a pretty high-ranked school. Has anyone heard this before? Is it accurate??


Every adcom is different. At some schools this is true. At others it's not. I got dinged at Cornell and I was over their Median by 9 lsat points.


That is blatant YP though. And a 176 to Cornell? I don't blame them lol. I don't know why they deny instead of waitlist though -- maybe you were siced for Ithica


Nope 2.8 gpa meant it was a legit ding.

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby 09042014 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:25 am

voltage88 wrote:
rad law wrote:
s0ph1e2007 wrote:are you being sarcastic? if you're not then you better elaborate to be useful


Look at the URMs on LSN and the URM forums. Enjoy.


Because that's a highly representative sample...Did anyone on here even take stats? Know what it is?


Outted yourself as never taking stats bro.

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby Richie Tenenbaum » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:37 am

s0ph1e2007 wrote:
rad law wrote:
s0ph1e2007 wrote:are you being sarcastic? if you're not then you better elaborate to be useful


Look at the URMs on LSN and the URM forums. Enjoy.


yea i've done that. if you haven't noticed there aren't a lot of URMs on LSN.
anyways, apparently this wasn't helpful. thanks, anyways.


Urm applicant advice is much different than normal applicant advice for a variety of reasons. First is that softs generally matter much more. Cycles are also more unpredictable, since while you may get a substantial boost, sometimes it appears people don't (or they get boosts in varying degrees based on schools).

A rough (and I do mean rough) guide for what your LSAT boost is:
NA: 12+
AA male: 10+
AA female: 8-10
Hispanic:4-5 (can depend a lot more on the school too)

Feel free to call out these numbers as off and to offer corrections.

Hourumd.com might be easier to use for URM chances, since multiple years allow you to see a bigger sample size (place less emphasis on the older cycles though).

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby s0ph1e2007 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:39 am

Richie Tenenbaum wrote:
s0ph1e2007 wrote:
rad law wrote:
s0ph1e2007 wrote:are you being sarcastic? if you're not then you better elaborate to be useful


Look at the URMs on LSN and the URM forums. Enjoy.


yea i've done that. if you haven't noticed there aren't a lot of URMs on LSN.
anyways, apparently this wasn't helpful. thanks, anyways.


Urm applicant advice is much different than normal applicant advice for a variety of reasons. First is that softs generally matter much more. Cycles are also more unpredictable, since while you may get a substantial boost, sometimes it appears people don't (or they get boosts in varying degrees based on schools).

A rough (and I do mean rough) guide for what your LSAT boost is:
NA: 12+
AA male: 10+
AA female: 8-10
Hispanic:4-5 (can depend a lot more on the school too)

Feel free to call out these numbers as off and to offer corrections.

Hourumd.com might be easier to use for URM chances, since multiple years allow you to see a bigger sample size (place less emphasis on the older cycles though).



haha 185? interesting. not sure how to interpret that

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby Richie Tenenbaum » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:41 am

s0ph1e2007 wrote:
haha 185? interesting. not sure how to interpret that


It means good shot at HYS.

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Re: Not Rejected if you Meet a Median??

Postby voltage88 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:56 am

Desert Fox wrote:
voltage88 wrote:
rad law wrote:
s0ph1e2007 wrote:are you being sarcastic? if you're not then you better elaborate to be useful


Look at the URMs on LSN and the URM forums. Enjoy.


Because that's a highly representative sample...Did anyone on here even take stats? Know what it is?


Outted yourself as never taking stats bro.


Nah, bro. You outted(?) yourself as a dumbass, brah.




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