What schools should I be applying to 157-162 LSAT, AA, 3.0

[URMdan]

I just took the LSAT in October and feel confident that I scored within my PT score range of 157 (absolute lowest) - 162 (highest consistent score but not absolute highest). I am basing this confidence on the fact that I did not struggle through LG, RC seemed average, and LR seemed easier than expected. I have been lurking for quite some time trying to figure out where I stand as an AA with my numbers and how to go about applying for this cycle. A few questions remain unanswered though...

First, I want to submit my applications as soon as I get my LSAT score, and have all potential applications on immediate standby as well. Is it recommended to submit without an LSAT? I am willing to retake it in December if I get waitlisted, but I felt so good coming out of the test this Saturday and I will be so busy the next month with work that I'm not sure if I could raise my score on a retake so soon.

Given my numbers: 3.0, 157-162 LSAT, AA, should I bother getting apps ready for any T14s? I would also be willing to go to any T14/or NYC area law school~ especially Fordham. I am applying with an LSAC fee waiver.

How accurate is LSP? Some of the info that I've read on TLS about URM splitters' chances are inconsistent with LSP. For example, with a 160 on the LSAT, LSP gives me less than 5% to get into Fordham, and less than 25% to get into Rutgers.

Also, if I apply ED and get rejected, can I apply ED to a different school after I receive my rejection?

[tazmolover]

Worth applying lower half t14.

[dissonance1848]

You could get into Fordham, but I would not bank on the T-14, save for maybe Cornell. Apply throughout the T40 plus Cornell. Your GPA is also a bit low, even for URM.

[URMdan]

Why's Cornell special? Low URMs?

[tazmolover]

Why's Cornell special? Low URMs?

low medians

[username99]

Shouldn't your username just be Dan?

[GettingReady2010]

Why's Cornell special? Low URMs?

low medians

Doesn't Boalt have a lower median?

[sophia.olive]

If you have fre waivers apply to all the schools you would go to. You never know what will happen and you dont even know what your lsat score is. Regardles I would just apply to all the schools you would care to go to, including t14.

[Fred_McGriff]

Applying to T-14 with a 3.0 / 162 just because of URM status? Really?

[URMdan]

Applying to T-14 with a 3.0 / 162 just because of URM status? Really?

Yes? If I got a 162, then I can see how lower end of T14 is possible. Especially considering I went to Ivy for UG. Where did you go?

[sophia.olive]

Applying to T-14 with a 3.0 / 162 just because of URM status? Really?

Yes? If I got a 162, then I can see how lower end of T14 is possible. Especially considering I went to Ivy for UG. Where did you go?[/quote]


Dont be an idiot. Especially considering how embarrasing saying that is considering your lsat range.

Anyways apply everywhere if its free or you can afford it. This will also give you more chances to use scholarship leverage.

[Grizz]

Come back when you actually get your score.

[NV53A]

Come back when you actually get your score.

^THIS

[URMdan]

Come back when you actually get your score.

The point of this thread is so that I can have the appropriate apps ready as soon as my score comes in.

[URMdan]

Applying to T-14 with a 3.0 / 162 just because of URM status? Really?

Yes? If I got a 162, then I can see how lower end of T14 is possible. Especially considering I went to Ivy for UG. Where did you go?[/quote]


Dont be an idiot. Especially considering how embarrasing saying that is considering your lsat range.

Anyways apply everywhere if its free or you can afford it. This will also give you more chances to use scholarship leverage.

[ShuckingNotJiving]

to answer your question -- yes, you can submit your apps before LSAT, but they won't go complete until the LSAT comes in. Is it recommended? That depends on how confident you are of your score. It seems like you're pretty confident, so, sure, go ahead and submit.

seems like you have a good chance at Fordham, and perhaps Cornell. I know a URM with similar numbers ( bit higher gpa) who heard good things from NYU. However, she had stellar post-grad softs.

So,

What have you been doing after this graduating from this prestigious college of yours? Anything interesting?

[URMdan]

to answer your question -- yes, you can submit your apps before LSAT, but they won't go complete until the LSAT comes in. Is it recommended? That depends on how confident you are of your score. It seems like you're pretty confident, so, sure, go ahead and submit.

seems like you have a good chance at Fordham, and perhaps Cornell. I know a URM with similar numbers ( bit higher gpa) who heard good things from NYU. However, she had stellar post-grad softs.

So,

What have you been doing after this graduating from this prestigious college of yours? Anything interesting?

Internship with the state AG for a few months, during UG. Working in a law firm post grad as a legal assistant. I'm bilingual and worked throughout UG with a strong upward trend. Not sure if any of that is good, I didn't save the world or anything.

[username99]

You didn't save the world...yet. Dude apply wherever you want. The bottom line is that your URM status, decent scores, and 160-something LSAT will give you a chance anywhere. A friend of mine got into Harvard with a 159 a few years ago. Granted, he had a 4.0 and was a URM in more respects than one.

[Oban]

People get into lower t14 with your numbers. You'd probably be in with money at 15-20, minus UCLA and prob texas, but you don't want to go there anyway.

[BruceWayne]

You haven't really specified the most crucial element, which is whether you are male or female. I'm going to assume you are a male. If you get a 162 ED to NYU, or if you are more risk averse UVA . Apply ASAP to Cornell, you should get Fordham regardless of where you fall in that range. If you get over a 166 don't apply ED anywhere, just blanket the top 14.

[URMdan]

People get into lower t14 with your numbers. You'd probably be in with money at 15-20, minus UCLA and prob texas, but you don't want to go there anyway.

How do you figure money? LSP has me denied to all of them except Washington-Missouri.

This is a big reason why I made this thread. I keep reading advice on TLS that completely contradicts LSP.

You didn't save the world...yet. Dude apply wherever you want. The bottom line is that your URM status, decent scores, and 160-something LSAT will give you a chance anywhere. A friend of mine got into Harvard with a 159 a few years ago. Granted, he had a 4.0 and was a URM in more respects than one.

Haha I wish I could get into HLS. I have a really cool PS that I hope will appeal to them. My GPA kills my chances though.

[BruceWayne]

People get into lower t14 with your numbers. You'd probably be in with money at 15-20, minus UCLA and prob texas, but you don't want to go there anyway.

How do you figure money? LSP has me denied to all of them except Washington-Missouri.

This is a big reason why I made this thread. I keep reading advice on TLS that completely contradicts LSP.

You didn't save the world...yet. Dude apply wherever you want. The bottom line is that your URM status, decent scores, and 160-something LSAT will give you a chance anywhere. A friend of mine got into Harvard with a 159 a few years ago. Granted, he had a 4.0 and was a URM in more respects than one.

Haha I wish I could get into HLS. I have a really cool PS that I hope will appeal to them. My GPA kills my chances though.

By far the best place to ask this question is http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/blac ... ion-board/

lawschoolpredictor is almost totally useless for predicting URM cycles, if you want to PM me for some helpful info on this feel free. I will say that the "with money" comments are a bit too hopeful.

[URMdan]

You haven't really specified the most crucial element, which is whether you are male or female. I'm going to assume you are a male. If you get a 162 ED to NYU, or if you are more risk averse UVA . Apply ASAP to Cornell, you should get Fordham regardless of where you fall in that range. If you get over a 166 don't apply ED anywhere, just blanket the top 14.

Is Fordham very URM friendly? I read that they value GPA more than other schools, which is why I'm not as confident about them.

NYU may be out of reach. I took the LSAT last February and scored a 152. To the best of my knowledge I believe NYU averages LSAT scores.

[BruceWayne]

You haven't really specified the most crucial element, which is whether you are male or female. I'm going to assume you are a male. If you get a 162 ED to NYU, or if you are more risk averse UVA . Apply ASAP to Cornell, you should get Fordham regardless of where you fall in that range. If you get over a 166 don't apply ED anywhere, just blanket the top 14.

Is Fordham very URM friendly? I read that they value GPA more than other schools, which is why I'm not as confident about them.

NYU may be out of reach. I took the LSAT last February and scored a 152. To the best of my knowledge I believe NYU averages LSAT scores.

With your ivy undergrad, good softs, and Black male status, you certainly have a good shot of getting into NYU with a 162+ LSAT and ED. If you get a 165 I'm almost certain you would be accepted ED. As far as Fordham, if you pull a 160 and apply ASAP you should be fine. You really need to checkout blsd. UVA ED and Cornell are your best shots in the top 14.

[Oban]

People get into lower t14 with your numbers. You'd probably be in with money at 15-20, minus UCLA and prob texas, but you don't want to go there anyway.

How do you figure money? LSP has me denied to all of them except Washington-Missouri.

This is a big reason why I made this thread. I keep reading advice on TLS that completely contradicts LSP.

You didn't save the world...yet. Dude apply wherever you want. The bottom line is that your URM status, decent scores, and 160-something LSAT will give you a chance anywhere. A friend of mine got into Harvard with a 159 a few years ago. Granted, he had a 4.0 and was a URM in more respects than one.

Haha I wish I could get into HLS. I have a really cool PS that I hope will appeal to them. My GPA kills my chances though.

URM cycles are unpredictable. I got tons o monies from WUSTL, but WL-->Ding at Fordham, Minnessota, ETC, Even straight up ding at UWashington and similar ranked schools.