3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

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3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby dcgbm » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:08 am

Is it? If not, is there a way to politely suggest it to them, or do I just have to hope they notice me?

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby r6_philly » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:11 am

dcgbm wrote:Is it? If not, is there a way to politely suggest it to them, or do I just have to hope they notice me?


My numbers are better, and they ignored my "suggestion". I applied RD.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby hipstermafia » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:00 am

dcgbm wrote:Is it? If not, is there a way to politely suggest it to them, or do I just have to hope they notice me?


Get your RD app in ASAP and hope for a quick turn around time.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby r6_philly » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:17 am

hipstermafia wrote:
dcgbm wrote:Is it? If not, is there a way to politely suggest it to them, or do I just have to hope they notice me?


Get your RD app in ASAP and hope for a quick turn around time.


I tried to dig around LSN to see when's the first wave of RD decisions, it looks like RD applicants with good numbers can expect 4-6 weeks of wait time before hearing back. (169+). They did not look at anyone below that until after the new year.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby thechee » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:19 am

I got PT with 3.6/170 last year. Your #s are def good enough for it.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby Veyron » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:24 am

Duke has a part time program?

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby hipstermafia » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:24 am

thechee wrote:I got PT with 3.6/170 last year. Your #s are def good enough for it.


People with 3.4/170 have gotten PT in the years past (via LSN). I think Duke is either being more stringent with their number requirements for PT this year, or they are looking at other CRS factors as a poster mentioned in another thread.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby turkeysub » Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:12 pm

Duke has a part time program?


Priority Track.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby St.Remy » Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:40 pm

hipstermafia wrote:
thechee wrote:I got PT with 3.6/170 last year. Your #s are def good enough for it.


People with 3.4/170 have gotten PT in the years past (via LSN). I think Duke is either being more stringent with their number requirements for PT this year, or they are looking at other CRS factors as a poster mentioned in another thread.


There averages have risen since last year, with the new LSAT median being 170 and the new GPA median being 3.8, which definitely is going to have repercussions on who they give priority track to and who they eventually admit. To the OP, your numbers aren't good enough to get PT, and they are by no means good enough to have a lock on being accepted. Honestly if you really like Duke then your best bet is to retake the LSAT.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby thechee » Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:55 pm

St.Remy wrote:Honestly if you really like Duke then your best bet is to retake the LSAT.


Disagree. Even if you don't get PT, you still have a strong shot at Duke. Perhaps write a Why Duke essay. Your numbers are probably right on the money for the type of student Duke hopes to enroll. Unless you are looking to boost your scholarship chances, I don't see a reason to go through the stress of retaking the test.

FWIW, I got over $50k from Duke with the same LSAT score and a slightly lower GPA. Coming from a "high avg LSAT/low avg GPA" UG might have helped.

Try and sell yourself with your essays.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby St.Remy » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:02 pm

thechee wrote:Even if you don't get PT, you still have a strong shot at Duke.


What is your reasoning behind this? You applied with an LSAT score that was above median and a GPA that was below median. OP is applying with an LSAT that is at median and a GPA that is below median. One of your numbers helped Duke's stats, none of the OP's do. On a purely numbers level I don't see the OP having a great shot at Duke, but if he improved his LSAT by even a point then that changes things.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby rundoxierun » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:09 pm

St.Remy wrote:
thechee wrote:Even if you don't get PT, you still have a strong shot at Duke.


What is your reasoning behind this? You applied with an LSAT score that was above median and a GPA that was below median. OP is applying with an LSAT that is at median and a GPA that is below median. One of your numbers helped Duke's stats, none of the OP's do. On a purely numbers level I don't see the OP having a great shot at Duke, but if he improved his LSAT by even a point then that changes things.

Contrary to tls belief, ever single admission decision isn't made for the purpose of maximizing stats, especially this early in the cycle. OP def has a legit shot at duke.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:21 pm

St.Remy wrote:
thechee wrote:Even if you don't get PT, you still have a strong shot at Duke.


What is your reasoning behind this? You applied with an LSAT score that was above median and a GPA that was below median. OP is applying with an LSAT that is at median and a GPA that is below median. One of your numbers helped Duke's stats, none of the OP's do. On a purely numbers level I don't see the OP having a great shot at Duke, but if he improved his LSAT by even a point then that changes things.


I agree that the OP isn't a lock but a median score means half the people admitted had lower than that score and half had higher. I doubt that is necessarily true of admission decisions but still, the OP has a pretty reasonable chance.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:29 pm

In addition to previous post: Plus retaking the lsat with a 170 might be a bad idea. On practice tests I score 171-172 consistently but every once in a while I'll rollout a 169 or 168. It would suck if you moved under 170 in the retake. ED would be good here.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby r6_philly » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:45 pm

AreJay711 wrote:I agree that the OP isn't a lock but a median score means half the people admitted had lower than that score and half had higher. I doubt that is necessarily true of admission decisions but still, the OP has a pretty reasonable chance.


That is not necessarily true. If 52% of people had 170 and 48% of people had 171 and more, the median would be 170.

There exists a possibility that the vast majority of the people admitted had a score of 170 so the median is pinned at 170. But there is no reason to assume that "half" or nearly half of all admitted applicants had a score higher or lower than 170.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby AreJay711 » Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:15 pm

r6_philly wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:I agree that the OP isn't a lock but a median score means half the people admitted had lower than that score and half had higher. I doubt that is necessarily true of admission decisions but still, the OP has a pretty reasonable chance.


That is not necessarily true. If 52% of people had 170 and 48% of people had 171 and more, the median would be 170.

There exists a possibility that the vast majority of the people admitted had a score of 170 so the median is pinned at 170. But there is no reason to assume that "half" or nearly half of all admitted applicants had a score higher or lower than 170.


Good point. Thats why they post the quartiles too though 168-171. The OP is at the median for LSAT and slightly below the lower quartile for GPA. In light of that I do admit the OP's chances aren't as good. Duke had a good class last year.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby dcgbm » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:21 am

Thanks for all the replies. I guess PT tickets are stingier this year, seeing that someone with better numbers suggested and got denied (a PT, that is).

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby hellojd » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:46 am

dcgbm wrote:Thanks for all the replies. I guess PT tickets are stingier this year, seeing that someone with better numbers suggested and got denied (a PT, that is).


Ya, it's not your LSAT, it's the gpa. i have the same LSAT, but my gpa is about .2 higher and I got PT.

Best of luck with the app!

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby r6_philly » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:06 am

hellojd wrote:
dcgbm wrote:Thanks for all the replies. I guess PT tickets are stingier this year, seeing that someone with better numbers suggested and got denied (a PT, that is).


Ya, it's not your LSAT, it's the gpa. i have the same LSAT, but my gpa is about .2 higher and I got PT.

Best of luck with the app!


It could be, or it could not. I have a much higher GPA and didn't get it. There are other factors at play in their CRS search.

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Re: 3.67 / 170 <-- Good enough for Duke PT?

Postby hellojd » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:43 am

r6_philly wrote:
hellojd wrote:
dcgbm wrote:Thanks for all the replies. I guess PT tickets are stingier this year, seeing that someone with better numbers suggested and got denied (a PT, that is).


Ya, it's not your LSAT, it's the gpa. i have the same LSAT, but my gpa is about .2 higher and I got PT.

Best of luck with the app!


It could be, or it could not. I have a much higher GPA and didn't get it. There are other factors at play in their CRS search.


yeah, interesting that to a certain extent there are wild cards in play for all schools and fee waivers in general... doesn't seem to be a steady rhyme or reason often times.




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