List of schools

[jslom958]

I've narrowed down my list of schools to apply to, but now it seems like I don't have enough. I'd prefer to stay in the eastern US, especially the east coast (though NYC isn't really high on my list). I could definitely use some input.

Stats:
3.9x, 164
Great LORs
Normal PS (no ultra-compelling story)
Leadership positions at a small regional school
Applying straight out of UG

List:
Boston University
Boston College
Ohio State
Case Western
Notre Dame
GWU
William and Mary
UVA (ED?)

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[jslom958]

Does this list seem fitting considering my stats?

[NU_Jet55]

I had almost the exact same numbers and applied to some of the same schools.

BU-Waitlist
BC-Reject
Ohio State-In
Case Western-In
Notre Dame-Waitlist
GWU-Waitlist
William and Mary-Waitlist
UVA (YES ED)-Good luck...

Schools that should be on this list:
Wash U
Vanderbilt
Emory
UNC

[jslom958]

I had almost the exact same numbers and applied to some of the same schools.

BU-Waitlist
BC-Reject
Ohio State-In
Case Western-In
Notre Dame-Waitlist
GWU-Waitlist
William and Mary-Waitlist
UVA (YES ED)-Good luck...

Schools that should be on this list:
Wash U
Vanderbilt
Emory
UNC

If you don't mind me asking, where else did you apply, and how well did you fare with those schools?

[NU_Jet55]

If you don't mind me asking, where else did you apply, and how well did you fare with those schools?

I applied late, and I had some work experience, so I'm a bit of a special case. But as you'll learn, numbers are basically everything. I applied to some state schools ranked between 50 and 80 that were in areas that I wouldn't have minded living. They gave me great scholarship offers, and I utilized each offer to get a bigger one.

Ultimately my decision came down to Wash U with a small scholly vs. (close to) a full ride at one of these state schools. For me, it was an easy choice.

[JJDancer]

Sorry but I think you have less than a 20% chance at UVA, even ED with those numbers. I could be wrong.

[JusticeHarlan]

Sorry but I think you have less than a 20% chance at UVA, even ED with those numbers. I could be wrong.

UVA needs to keep it's GPA median at 3.85, and thus has to admit half their class with at least a 3.85. They (anecdotally) admit plenty of people with 170+ LSATs and GPAs below 3.85, so they'd have to take a number of people with better GPAs to balance the class out. They also like taking people ED. A 3.9x applying ED has a shot, although I don't know enough to put a percentage on it.

If OP is a Virginia resident or URM, I'd say ED to UVA is a pretty solid chance; absent those factors, I still think it would be worth it, if OP is willing to pay sticker there, but the odds are more dour.

The problem, OP, is that if you're applying as a senior in undergrad, then your GPA is not set in stone, and they may be somewhat hesitant to take someone who might slack off and let their GPA drop.

[Grizz]

Vandy's out.

[jslom958]

If EDing at UVA doesn't work, where should I ED? I was thinking Georgetown PT, but I don't really have a legitimate reason for going PT instead of FT there. Would that matter?

[NU_Jet55]

If EDing at UVA doesn't work, where should I ED? I was thinking Georgetown PT, but I don't really have a legitimate reason for going PT instead of FT there. Would that matter?

They'll sniff it out. I got straight up rejected from Georgetown PT last year when ED'd there, but I was on UVA's waitlist until very late in the game as a regular applicant.

Unless you retake or get very very lucky, the T12/T17 is pretty much out of the question.

T19 FTW!

[BoomBoom1986]

Why not add Temple to the list (if you like Philly, of course)? It's dirt cheap (even for OOS) and they'll probably give you a nice scholly, too. Plus, they own their market (most Penn grads head to NYC). I'd also add UConn (probably get some $$$), Maryland, Washington & Lee, and maybe an Illinois or UMN to your list. I know you said east coast, so it depends if you mind the midwest on those last two -- but they're great schools. Btw, I too had similar numbers last year (LSAT was 162 though) and I got rejected at BC, waitlisted at BU and W&M, and waitlisted at UVA.

[Grizz]

If you don't ED to UVA, T17 is out.