$25 an hour for NYC attorneys

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$25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby scribblehead » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:15 pm

The future looks bright!

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby justadude55 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:17 pm

scribblehead wrote:The future looks bright!

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just because they put that ad up does not mean people applied.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby sundance95 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:17 pm

justadude55 wrote:
scribblehead wrote:The future looks bright!

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just because they put that ad up does not mean people applied.


Kinda naive dude.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby WestOfTheRest » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:18 pm

Lol, craigslist attorneys? Did they put attorney services right next to adult services?

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby Grizz » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:18 pm

scribblehead wrote:The future looks bright!

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No one gives a rat's ass.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby bk1 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:22 pm

New information is new.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby scribblehead » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:27 pm

The NJ AG's office has a deluge of licensed attorneys begging to work there for FREE!

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =121274655

I love the argument about "government work" being some kind of reasonable fallback plan if one misses the Biglaw cut! The NPR story kinda blows holes thru that argument, huh?

Check this out too:

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/08/03/gre ... ary-thing/

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby justadude55 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:48 pm

it's probably some crap in the wall little company. if you just need A lawyer to write some crap, why would you pay 800/hr for a Harvard attorney? i would imagine top firms are not scouring craigslist for potentials the same way a top marketing company wouldn't. online jobs always pay less in any field.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby 2014 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:49 pm

If I graduated from the bottom 20% of Fordham, Cardozo, NY Law School, Brooklyn, etc, I would much rather make 25 bucks an hour + incentives using my degree than waiting tables.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby justadude55 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:52 pm

2014 wrote:If I graduated from the bottom 20% of Fordham, Cardozo, NY Law School, Brooklyn, etc, I would much rather make 25 bucks an hour + incentives using my degree than waiting tables.


you could probably post ads on craigslist and make more than that.

fordham is a good school.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby scribblehead » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:59 pm

It's not a "crap" company, it's likely an AmLaw 100 firm. Above the Law ran a nice article on the ad:

http://abovethelaw.com/2010/09/legal-te ... attorneys/

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby bigben » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:02 am

justadude55 wrote:
scribblehead wrote:The future looks bright!

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just because they put that ad up does not mean people applied.

They got at least several hundred resumes, guaranteed. Probably more. Hey, it's a lawyer job, which is something many law grads can't get. I bet it's 20-30% of all law grads. Actually I'd like to see some numbers on that now that I think about it.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby justadude55 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:02 am

$25/hour is crap money. i was making more than that with no degree, and im no bill gates.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby 2014 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:36 am

justadude55 wrote:
2014 wrote:If I graduated from the bottom 20% of Fordham, Cardozo, NY Law School, Brooklyn, etc, I would much rather make 25 bucks an hour + incentives using my degree than waiting tables.


you could probably post ads on craigslist and make more than that.

fordham is a good school.

Yeah didn't mean to troll Fordham, I'm actually going to apply there, but bottom 20% out of it would still struggle to find gainful employment :P

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby fragged » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:57 am

rad law wrote:
scribblehead wrote:The future looks bright!

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No one gives a rat's ass.


Cool story, bro.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby reasonable_man » Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:51 am

2014 wrote:If I graduated from the bottom 20% of Fordham, Cardozo, NY Law School, Brooklyn, etc, I would much rather make 25 bucks an hour + incentives using my degree than waiting tables.



You mean the bottom 80% dont you?

The number of unemployed / underemployed lawyers out there flooding the market is far worse than you think.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby scribblehead » Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:43 am

To get "top dollar" in doc review (which is $32 an hour), you need fluency in a foreign language:

http://temporaryattorney.blogspot.com/2 ... -rate.html

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby Marionberry » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:39 am

scribblehead wrote:The future looks bright!

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JeanMarie, is that you?

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby 270910 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:44 am

It's sort of sad 0Ls on TLS don't realize how much of an 'underclass' of contract/staff attorneys exist out there. It's also sort of sad that the profession is set up that way.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby r6_philly » Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:15 pm

The median pay rate in the US for someone with a bachelor's degree is about $21.50, and $25 for master's degree (these are total population over 25YO, so starting salary is probably severely less). So $25/hr isn't too horrible for a below median law grad at a below median school.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby Nicholasnickynic » Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:22 pm

r6_philly wrote:The median pay rate in the US for someone with a bachelor's degree is about $21.50, and $25 for master's degree (these are total population over 25YO, so starting salary is probably severely less). So $25/hr isn't too horrible for a below median law grad at a below median school.


Depression logic is depressing. :cry:

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby reasonable_man » Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:48 pm

disco_barred wrote:It's sort of sad 0Ls on TLS don't realize how much of an 'underclass' of contract/staff attorneys exist out there. It's also sort of sad that the profession is set up that way.



Its not so much as an under-class as an "untouchable" class. Contract attorneys are generally treated worse than slaves and viewed by other attorneys as sub-human losers. I spoke with a girl at a bar who was dating a contract attorney and I couldn't help but judge her. Its just how it is.

Sad part is that even this line of work is scarce and highly sought after in the current economic climate. I'm somewhat shielded from the market chaos right now because im a junior associate with about 2years experience which makes me fairly profitable. People just coming out of school right now are begging for any kind of work, no matter how pathetic said work might be.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby artichoke » Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:04 pm

Nicholasnickynic wrote:
r6_philly wrote:The median pay rate in the US for someone with a bachelor's degree is about $21.50, and $25 for master's degree (these are total population over 25YO, so starting salary is probably severely less). So $25/hr isn't too horrible for a below median law grad at a below median school.


Depression logic is depressing. :cry:


+1

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby 270910 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:21 pm

reasonable_man wrote:
disco_barred wrote:It's sort of sad 0Ls on TLS don't realize how much of an 'underclass' of contract/staff attorneys exist out there. It's also sort of sad that the profession is set up that way.



Its not so much as an under-class as an "untouchable" class. Contract attorneys are generally treated worse than slaves and viewed by other attorneys as sub-human losers. I spoke with a girl at a bar who was dating a contract attorney and I couldn't help but judge her. Its just how it is.

Sad part is that even this line of work is scarce and highly sought after in the current economic climate. I'm somewhat shielded from the market chaos right now because im a junior associate with about 2years experience which makes me fairly profitable. People just coming out of school right now are begging for any kind of work, no matter how pathetic said work might be.


I'd love to see the numbers - how many of the ~45,000 grads go into private firms partner tracks vs. become contract attorneys / staff attorneys / whatever. It's still a fine profession objectively, but certainly a sad contrast to what most decided to sit down and take the LSAT to achieve.

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Re: $25 an hour for NYC attorneys

Postby SilverE2 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:12 pm

r6_philly wrote:The median pay rate in the US for someone with a bachelor's degree is about $21.50, and $25 for master's degree (these are total population over 25YO, so starting salary is probably severely less). So $25/hr isn't too horrible for a below median law grad at a below median school.


God I wish I could make 21 bucks an hour with my degree.




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