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IAFG wrote:PSA: if you go to LS you will have to spend long painful hours with people like OP.

Kill me now?

booyakasha wrote:you're not going to get very far in life if you think those E-mails are remotely appropriate.

+1

I can't imagine they've done anything to help your case. Surely they've made the entire situation worse.

Since my other post was long, I'm gonna say the main point here, just 'cause it's that important:

IMO, you should drop it 'cause it's only gonna go down hill from here, but if you haven't gotten your letters of rec sent, you need to drop it ASAP and be extremely tactful and polite, perhaps apologize for your behavior. The reason is because you never know how far this is going to travel, and professors can definitely agree to write you a LoR, then write crappy things about you. I know GPA>>>>>>>LoR, but you definitely do not want big honking red flags like "extremely rude to new professor" and "persistent in grade grubbing."

Rikkugrrl wrote:Since my other post was long, I'm gonna say the main point here, just 'cause it's that important:

IMO, you should drop it 'cause it's only gonna go down hill from here, but if you haven't gotten your letters of rec sent, you need to drop it ASAP and be extremely tactful and polite, perhaps apologize for your behavior. The reason is because you never know how far this is going to travel, and professors can definitely agree to write you a LoR, then write crappy things about you. I know GPA>>>>>>>LoR, but you definitely do not want big honking red flags like "extremely rude to new professor" and "persistent in grade grubbing."

Agreed. Good LORs don't really help, but bad ones can tank your app.

rad law wrote:

Rikkugrrl wrote:Since my other post was long, I'm gonna say the main point here, just 'cause it's that important:

IMO, you should drop it 'cause it's only gonna go down hill from here, but if you haven't gotten your letters of rec sent, you need to drop it ASAP and be extremely tactful and polite, perhaps apologize for your behavior. The reason is because you never know how far this is going to travel, and professors can definitely agree to write you a LoR, then write crappy things about you. I know GPA>>>>>>>LoR, but you definitely do not want big honking red flags like "extremely rude to new professor" and "persistent in grade grubbing."

Agreed. Good LORs don't really help, but bad ones can tank your app.

I wonder what a "bad" LOR sounds like...

whymeohgodno wrote: I wonder what a "bad" LOR sounds like...

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kazu wrote:

whymeohgodno wrote: I wonder what a "bad" LOR sounds like...

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What...the...

Please tell me these professors told the students that they would prefer not to write the LOR for them.

If they didn't....that's pretty horrible.

whymeohgodno wrote:

IAFG wrote:PSA: if you go to LS you will have to spend long painful hours with people like OP, but smarter.

Kill me now?

FTFY.

OP: regardless of your intentions, you come across (both ITT and IT[hose]E[mails]) as unbelievably naive and entitled. I can tell you this because I have college profs all over my family tree: profs can do what they want in their classes. Administrators of all kinds are extremely wary of meddling in their professors' in-class policies, because the loyalty of their professors is far, far more important to them than the opinion of some student that wants an A. Guess what? All students want A's, and in our me-first generation we often think we deserve them. But we don't. We deserve what our profs give us 99.9% of the time, because one thing holds true, from the lowliest adjunct to the most esteemed/published emeritus: it's HIS/HER class, and HE/SHE is the all-powerful master of it.

Take your 2.99 (which, believe it or not, you earned), stop burning bridges with faculty, and try to learn something from this experience for chrissakes.

You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else. As a matter of general advice, and especially if you want to attend law school, I suggest you get used to that fact.

This is like a fan of a basketball team complaining that they lost the game because of 1 bad call even though the game is played over at least four quarters. You had four years (give or take a year) to come up with a 3.X, but now you're claiming that THIS course is keeping you from that GPA. I agree that grades are not always as objective as the profs want you to believe they are, but you (and everyone else that's received a BA or BS) has more often than not been on the positive side of this grading system.

hijodehombre wrote:This is like a fan of a basketball team complaining that they lost the game because of 1 bad call even though the game is played over at least four quarters. You had four years (give or take a year) to come up with a 3.X, but now you're claiming that THIS course is keeping you from that GPA. I agree that grades are not always as objective as the profs want you to believe they are, but you (and everyone else that's received a BA or BS) has more often than not been on the positive side of this grading system.

+1 four years of mediocrity are keeping you from attaining a 3.0. HTH.

OP: Last spring I posted some retarded shit about my disappointing 1L OCI, and I received a round of criticism akin to what you're receiving. As tough as it was to admit, I was acting like an entitled douche. I have done a lot of soul searching to rectify my attitude. I mean no offense by this, but you would do well to do the same. This whole affair is ridiculously childish, and you have now leveled personal insults against a professional whose career success far exceeds yours for the time being. Life isn't fair. Deal with it.

booyakasha wrote:

hijodehombre wrote:This is like a fan of a basketball team complaining that they lost the game because of 1 bad call even though the game is played over at least four quarters. You had four years (give or take a year) to come up with a 3.X, but now you're claiming that THIS course is keeping you from that GPA. I agree that grades are not always as objective as the profs want you to believe they are, but you (and everyone else that's received a BA or BS) has more often than not been on the positive side of this grading system.

+1 four years of mediocrity are keeping you from attaining a 3.0. HTH.

Cool 'tar booya.

While I think the OP is a douche and doesn't deserve an increase based on nothing else than his attitude, I can sympathize with the A=95 thing.

It is extremely frustrating to me when I get a paper back that has nothing but positive remarks, an A grade on it, and I find out that I managed a 94 or something on it. And it happens all the time.

JazzOne wrote:

booyakasha wrote:

hijodehombre wrote:This is like a fan of a basketball team complaining that they lost the game because of 1 bad call even though the game is played over at least four quarters. You had four years (give or take a year) to come up with a 3.X, but now you're claiming that THIS course is keeping you from that GPA. I agree that grades are not always as objective as the profs want you to believe they are, but you (and everyone else that's received a BA or BS) has more often than not been on the positive side of this grading system.

+1 four years of mediocrity are keeping you from attaining a 3.0. HTH.

Cool 'tar booya.

thanks. I love the ethanol puppy, but I got a C+ in chem .

MrKappus wrote:You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else.

+1

This gets my vote as greatest TLS thread ever. I think I want to make a poster out of OP's post.

Action Jackson wrote:This gets my vote as greatest TLS thread ever. I think I want to make a poster out of OP's post.

Now someone needs to post that ridiculously long fob sob story.

Action Jackson wrote:This gets my vote as greatest TLS thread ever. I think I want to make a poster out of OP's post.

This is fairly lulzy, but there have been better.

rad law wrote:

Action Jackson wrote:This gets my vote as greatest TLS thread ever. I think I want to make a poster out of OP's post.

This is fairly lulzy, but there have been better.

Well, this one time a guy at my school posted a screenshot of his SAT scores. That was pretty epic. But there's something very charming about this "I was robbed of my 3.01" story. I'm still a little drunk, though. Maybe it's just that.

This HAS to be a flame. I have more faith in humanity.

Unemployed wrote:I have more faith in humanity.

I wouldn't. People are generally dumb.

rad law wrote:

Unemployed wrote:I have more faith in humanity.

I wouldn't. People are generally dumb.

Credited.

Unemployed wrote:This HAS to be a flame. I have more faith in humanity.

I have more faith in people's aversion to work than I do their goodness. Thus the length of the original post convinces me that it isn't a flame (but if it is a flame, doesn't that make you even more sad? That a troll would go through the trouble of typing up 5 pages worth of back-and-forth email banter?). May God have mercy on us all, except the OP.

OP: Others have properly criticized the content of your emails. I'd like to criticize your decision to air all of this dirty laundry on TLS: It's incredibly unprofessional, and presents a real risk that somebody at your school will realize that even with the redaction you're taking this to a public forum, which compounds the inappropriateness of the situation.

JazzOne wrote:OP: Last spring I posted some retarded shit about my disappointing 1L OCI, and I received a round of criticism akin to what you're receiving. As tough as it was to admit, I was acting like an entitled douche. I have done a lot of soul searching to rectify my attitude. I mean no offense by this, but you would do well to do the same. This whole affair is ridiculously childish, and you have now leveled personal insults against a professional whose career success far exceeds yours for the time being. Life isn't fair. Deal with it.

Major props for that.

St.Remy wrote:

Unemployed wrote:This HAS to be a flame. I have more faith in humanity.

I have more faith in people's aversion to work than I do their goodness. Thus the length of the original post convinces me that it isn't a flame (but if it is a flame, doesn't that make you even more sad? That a troll would go through the trouble of typing up 5 pages worth of back-and-forth email banter?). May God have mercy on us all, except the OP.

Someone bring up the FOB Post